I'm Just Wondering.

PararealitySaint · Dec 19, 2010

Wickerman1972 said:
Seems pretty simple to me. C2C is a big, commercial, mainstream kind of show. It's about entertainment, not about education or investigation or anything like that.....C2C does its thing, the Paracast does its thing. Not everything has to be the same.

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Now then, if you are to have a show which you include a disclaimer for, and that being the possible fictional entertainment setting of your content, then I don’t have a problem with listening in, “for the fun of it.” Honestly I don’t believe that Gene and his crew consider allowing a fib based format something by which entertainment shares as a rule.

On the other hand, Noory and his crew go way over these bounds 9/10ths of the time.

Lastly, I don’t believe that “Big” or “Mainstream” gives anyone the right to cow tow to unsupported and otherwise misinformed information, no matter how much “fun” one thinks it as being.

CapnG · Dec 20, 2010

Having listened to C2C periodically out of sheer boredom I think you may be overlooking something important: the audience itself.

Frankly, I don't think the average C2C listener cares to be informed. They want to hear a good story, they want to let their minds wander, they want to be entertained. Informative discussion is not on the menu.

Sean Elifritz · Dec 20, 2010

PararealitySaint said:
 Thanks for the post but I don’t believe I was alluding to the shows having to be the same. I believe it is about the continuity of the subject and quite frankly, honesty. If you are going to have a show based on the Paranormal, a topic mind you, which in order not to advance to close to outright fantasy, you need to reel in those on your show who would otherwise construct it that way; that is utilizing their sometimes blatant and outright lying or exaggerations. Again, I am not saying you need to berate the guest, but if you are looking to consider yourself "95%" the premier in the paranormal genre, there needs to be some aspect of your format which answers to what most honest people are interested in…..supposedly factual based information.

Now then, if you are to have a show which you include a disclaimer for, and that being the possible fictional entertainment setting of your content, then I don’t have a problem with listening in, “for the fun of it.” Honestly I don’t believe that Gene and his crew consider allowing a fib based format something by which entertainment shares as a rule.

On the other hand, Noory and his crew go way over these bounds 9/10ths of the time.

Lastly, I don’t believe that “Big” or “Mainstream” gives anyone the right to cow tow to unsupported and otherwise misinformed information, no matter how much “fun” one thinks it as being.

C2C has a different kind of audience than the Paracast, up to this point anyway. I actually know people in my day to day life that listen to C2C. I've worked with people on graveyard shifts who have had it playing. None of those people are what I'd consider at all hardcore about the stuff. They don't read books, don't talk about it on internet forums, have probably never spent more than 5 minutes thinking about anything remotely paranormal. They really don't give a hoot about the material, aren't going to mull it over in a serious way, just listen sometimes because it seems kinda' crazy and therefor kinda' fun. I don't think those people really want a super-serious interview, think they'd likely stop listening if it became that way. People like you and I are rarities. We like serious interviews because we take the subject matter seriously. But for most people this is a circus and I think they like Noory encouraging his guests to make as big of fools of themselves as possible. What he does ain't gonna' earn him many points around here but it is much better for ratings than being serious and rational would ever be. Look up UFO books on Amazon sometime and sort the results by bestselling. You'll see that some of the goofiest stuff out there is what is most popular (Behold A Pale Horse by Cooper has been selling like gangbusters for a long time). Most people don't care about this shit. Among those who do most of them don't care about details. It's a belief thing for them. Whoever is telling the greatest story is getting their money, not who is being the most accurate. Then way down at the bottom of the percentages you've got the types that populate this board, those who take this pretty seriously and try to the best of their ability to be accurate with what they believe and what they don't.

PararealitySaint · Dec 20, 2010

Thanks for the replies.

You know, although it might be true that these people aren't up to the level of interest you and I seem to be, don't you both believe there should be a "justified" standard they should keep anyway...Money is one thing, but considering the format they certainly espouse to adhere to....

I guess stupid is as stupid does.

CapnG · Dec 20, 2010

PararealitySaint said:
don't you both believe there should be a "justified" standard they should keep anyway...

That IS the standard. That's the point we're making. This is the paranomal world's lowest-common denominator. There really isn't anywhere "down" from there.

PararealitySaint · Dec 20, 2010

CapnG said:
That IS the standard. That's the point we're making. This is the paranomal world's lowest-common denominator. There really isn't anywhere "down" from there.

And it wasn't my intent to look evasive or ignorant of your point. My point is that Coast To Coast Am is basically misleading its audience then, because they pride themselves on relating the exact opposite of what you surmise them as being.

In fact my original point wasn't to set the standard myself, but to utilize a comparison between what the Paracast provides and what C2C supposedly acknowledges itself as being. The best possible answer was to eventually arrive at your point, so no harm no foul.

Lastly, I still feel as though the sacrifice of authentic investigative work in order to arrive at increased market share is doing the entire discipline an injustice the very original experts in the field fought so hard all these years to overcome....and that is this almost "Clownish" identity boarding on the farcical.

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