Interesting Roswell post on Frank Warren's blog

[Trajanus]

On one hand I think modern science is the best approach we have to understanding the nature of things.......... but I also think there is a very real phenomena (supernatural) that modern science doesn't understand

If you look at history, you'll see that the more we've progressed, the less the "supernatural" has been invoked. While there may seem to be some "real' supernatural events, it could be just some trick of super hi tech. If neanderthals saw our TV and cellphones, they'd probably call it supernatural.

 

[Ron Collins]

As everyone knows I used to have major ETH tendancies. All I am certain of now is that this phenomenon demonstrates a technology. That technology is advanced. But, that by itself can NEVER point to a specific origin. Given the ellusive nature of the occupants and perpetrators of this phenomenon why would ANYONE take ANYTHING "they" say at face value? To do so is just irresponsible.

 

[Trajanus]

As everyone knows I used to have major ETH tendancies. All I am certain of now is that this phenomenon demonstrates a technology. That technology is advanced. But, that by itself can NEVER point to a specific origin.

We can't be sure exactly where they come from; it needn't necessarily be Serpo or anything near Zeta 1. But the ETH appears to be the only reasonable conclusion. It's very hard to believe more advanced technical beings come from anywhere on Earth. Had that been the case, they would own this world; we'd probably be long gone, just like our brainier ancestors eliminated neanderthal man, or Homo erectus eliminated Australopithicus robustus. As for "other dimensions," AFAIK they haven't even been scientifically verified.

Given the ellusive nature of the occupants and perpetrators of this phenomenon why would ANYONE take ANYTHING "they" say at face value? To do so is just irresponsible.

Yes indeed. Info given to contactees is often worse than absurd. Many times, ETs say they're from such and such a star system, often suspiciously familiar, or unlikely to harbor habitable planets; there have even been claims of intelligence on Mercury and Mars. It is interesting, however, that aliens almost invariably arrive/depart via flying craft, as opposed to some mysterious "gateway" to another realm. It seems clear that they're a technical race not of this world, but within this Universe i.e. ETs.

 

[Gen]

It is interesting, however, that aliens almost invariably arrive/depart via flying craft, as opposed to some mysterious "gateway" to another realm.

Never put my finger on this before. Thank you.

If it were all in our heads, the "aliens" should have started to use "stargates" as soon as we conceived of them.

 

[Trajanus]

If it were all in our heads, the "aliens" should have started to use "stargates" as soon as we conceived of them.

It is true that there are cases of entities appearing and disappearing abruptly. But regarding the notion of multiple sources or natures of the phenomenon, I'd like to reiterate that all aspects of it intensified more or less simultaneously afer WWII. To my mind that suggests a single source, or basic nature, and that appears to be ET.

 

[Gareth]

jesus youre beating that drum hard arent ya? Really really fricken hard.

 

[Trajanus]

youre beating that drum hard arent ya? Really really fricken hard.

Why not? Seems plausible enough to me.

 

[Rocketsauce]

If you look at history, you'll see that the more we've progressed, the less the "supernatural" has been invoked. While there may seem to be some "real' supernatural events, it could be just some trick of super hi tech. If neanderthals saw our TV and cellphones, they'd probably call it supernatural.

Agreed. I guess stuff is supernatural until science can explain it and looks can be disceiving, hence we really don't know who/what's behind a lot the UFO phenomena and much like a neanderthal trying to explain a TV by applying what he does know and framing the explanation within that limited context, we may be doing the exact same thing when we limit our theories too those conclusions that are closest to what we can relate too - ETH. But then again, ETH might be possible, I certainly don't know!