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It did not walk, it glided

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Mike, I don't think I've ever heard you talk about your experience. Is there somewhere on the forums where it's written up so I can check it out or is it something you want to keep private? I'd very much appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction or maybe summarize it here if you haven't done so previously and you're willing to discuss it. Thanks in advance.
 
I can relate! This description sounds similar to the two conscious close proximity experiences in my life. The first was the visitation experience I had at age 6 or 7 (1964) of a group of non-human appearing entities that seemed to glide along and move in unison "like cattails in a breeze." The second was when a weird antler-adorned humanoid form appeared to glide across my greenhouse windows at dusk, from left-to-right, ten feet from me—outside my house in CO (1999).

Descriptions of entities exhibiting a "gliding" motion intrigue me and I intuit that this sinuous motion may be somehow diagnostic (?) in nature.
 
Mike, I don't think I've ever heard you talk about your experience. Is there somewhere on the forums where it's written up so I can check it out or is it something you want to keep private? I'd very much appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction or maybe summarize it here if you haven't done so previously and you're willing to discuss it. Thanks in advance.

Its been posted here a few times and elsewhere.

Im a bit gunshy of posting it again, a few people decided to use the experience to marginalise any other point i tried to make here. Mike saw an alien, his argument is invalid. (despite the fact i made great pians to point out i only posted what happened to me, not make any claims as to what it actually was, eg: sleep paralysis vs abduction event)

If i can find a link I'll PM it to you.

Ive had a decent dose of high strangness, which is why anyone wanting to label me a skeptic is 500 percent wrong
 
I can relate! This description sounds similar to the two conscious close proximity experiences in my life. The first was the visitation experience I had at age 6 or 7 (1964) of a group of non-human appearing entities that seemed to glide along and move in unison "like cattails in a breeze." The second was when a weird antler-adorned humanoid form appeared to glide across my greenhouse windows at dusk, from left-to-right, ten feet from me—outside my house in CO (1999).

Descriptions of entities exhibiting a "gliding" motion intrigue me and I intuit that this sinuous motion may be somehow diagnostic (?) in nature.

Did you...or could you...ever rule out a 3d projection, especially given their ability to jump from place to place seemingly anticipating your movement? Even through it was years ago could you remember if they had a substanative quality to them?

I'm not really up on spectral type sightings but at least in pop culture ..which i know is not a true accounting method...ghostly beings are depicted in a gliding floating manner. It seems to me that if these experiences were imaginative then the natural inclination of the experiencer would be to have the entities walk just as people do in real life. Aliens walk, ghosts glide, it seems that would be our inclination to fill in details wise.

Having said that The closest thing I have ever.experienced like those of yours or mikes, I posted in personal experiences ( the insistent little girl) she glided...was dream based so it's not the same thing, but perhaps strangely, these experiences stopped when i left home and reoccur when I visit and stay in the house but it doesn't happen if I stay with my brother or sister who live nearby. This ghost did appear "in real time" in front of my neice's then boyfriend, now husband, and basically told him to buzz off. They were at the time staying in what was my room. this was a few days before my arrival there.
 
Did you...or could you...ever rule out a 3d projection, especially given their ability to jump from place to place seemingly anticipating your movement? Even through it was years ago could you remember if they had a substanative quality to them? ...
I was wide awake and within 10 feet in both events. In this realm you can't rule anything out, but they appeared completely manifest, opaque and there did not seem to be a spectral quality to their appearance.
 
Its been posted here a few times and elsewhere.

Im a bit gunshy of posting it again, a few people decided to use the experience to marginalise any other point i tried to make here. Mike saw an alien, his argument is invalid. (despite the fact i made great pians to point out i only posted what happened to me, not make any claims as to what it actually was, eg: sleep paralysis vs abduction event)

If i can find a link I'll PM it to you.

Ive had a decent dose of high strangness, which is why anyone wanting to label me a skeptic is 500 percent wrong

Thanks for the response and the PM, it sounds similar to the experience I had only because of the positioning of my bed at the time and the fact that I couldn't move anything but my eyes, I never actually saw any being or beings, just bright light and moving shadows. Still, I remember the feeling of complete and utter terror that I had during the event to this very day. These days I tend to think it was some kind of sleep paralysis type thing but I sure as hell didn't when I was younger. In the end, I'll probably never know for sure, but it's also one of the reasons I am not 100% a skeptic when it comes to these strange events, because in the end I can't say with any certainty exactly what happened.

Here's a question, just for my own curiosity's sake, do you remember smelling anything during your experience? If so, what was it like? You can PM me if you don't want to talk about it here.
 
These experiences that Mike alludes to really are the ones that capture the imagination the most. The notion of contact with the alien other is the holy grail of ET theorists and believers. I've lived through sleep paralysis and their related dream within a dream breaks with reality, feelings of presence and imprisonment along with abduction scenarios. I found these to be the scariest, fear based sensations I've ever had.

I can't imagine stepping that up a notch into the realm of alien abduction, nor would I ever want to be part of that experience. I sympathize greatly with people who reluctantly make claims to these fear factory events. On the flip side I have no time for the proponents of abductions who devolve into cult like spaces - arguing relentlessly for other people's claims on reality. It makes the entire sun genre suspicious.

Its been posted here a few times and elsewhere.

Im a bit gunshy of posting it again, a few people decided to use the experience to marginalise any other point i tried to make here. Mike saw an alien, his argument is invalid. (despite the fact i made great pains to point out i only posted what happened to me, not make any claims as to what it actually was, eg: sleep paralysis vs abduction event)

If i can find a link I'll PM it to you.

Ive had a decent dose of high strangness, which is why anyone wanting to label me a skeptic is 500 percent wrong

So I can understand your pov on sharing your experience. But I'd like to read your story as well, not to contradict or judge, but to know the experience better.
 
I'll post it here with some additional stuff, as you will see its very close to the account in the OP

Here goes and let the chips fall where they may
(copied from an earlier post)

I had an experience that was typical, maybe of an abduction/contact maybe of sleep paralysis.

It certainly seemed like there was a tall grey came into my room one night, scared me quite literally senseless.


The "event" had such a profound impact on me that like the main character from close encounters i had to, was compelled to, recreate the scene
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(click on its eyes for a close up)

Did this happen, or was it sleep paralysis ? , honest answer i dont know.

It seemed 100 percent real, still does, but i cant prove it was one or the other.
What i can say is it scared the very humanity from my mind, left me a gibbering ape trapped in a place of unimaginable terror, to the point i (or so it seemed) passed out in fright.

Looking at this brings it all back, with alarming clarity
I woke up in the small hours of the morning, i could hear what i thought was a burglar in the house, things were being moved around the lounge, i could hear the bumps and clinks of objects being moved.
But i could not move my body, only my eyes.
I looked at the doorway...... Its empty. then the other side of the room then back at the doorway...empty, then the other side of the room, i can see the wardrobe and clothes in it.
Eventually as my gaze flipped back and forth from the opposite side of the room to the doorway.... it wasnt empty. (the shock of this moment is ...... ITS NOT EMPTY)

As i watched it "slid" (glided as the article describes it) into the room like it was on roller skates, Its arms began to writhe like snakes or the robot from lost in space warning will robinson....sort of figure 8 movements.
Without changing its facing, it slid sideways up my side of the bed, and as it approached my head i remember thinking to my eternal shame, take my wife not me...... before passing out in fright.

I awoke at sunrise and jumped out of bed like i was on fire, my wife asking what was wrong as i stood in the room arms stretched out from my body.
When i got to work hours later, as soon as i walked in the door (i worked in a hospital) they asked me what was wrong, a doctor later describing i looked like i was in shock......

This was prior to the internets, I had never heard of "tall" greys that inconsistancy helped me keep my sanity. it couldnt have been real, greys were only 3 feet tall in the books....
This thing barely made it under the door frame, It wasnt glowing in the sense it lit up the room or anything like that, but it was also more visable than it should have been in a pitch dark house, a pale blue/grey


Sleep paralysis or something else ? i cant tell you

But theres more

At some stage later, my wife was approached out the front of our house by an odd old man.

"he's seen them hasnt he ?" he told her

She was confused by this

"your husband he's seen the aliens"

He then went on to tell her about an alien base thats underground in the national park at the end of the road we live on, went into great detail about it claiming the RAAF (royal aust air force) had investigated.

I had already contacted the local MUFON style group here , and phoned them again about this odd event, they gave me the number of a man in the RAAF who , well like nick pope mans the UFO desk .
I began to relate this story to him and he cut me off, and told me the name of the road i live on and the name of this strange man. They knew all about it.

His story if not a bit strange was at least consistant.

Further down the track the house got buzzed by a black helicopter with no markings, circling the house 3 times and coming so close i could see the rivets on the fuselage.
He was so close to the ground/house i was scared he was going to hit a tree and come down.

Ive awoken in the night to a foul stench i could find no cause for.

Ive gotten up one morning to find all 3 jackets my dogs wear in winter removed, but the ties that secure them still done up, to this day i cant explain how they came off.

And we also have a water feature that runs the length of the house, which includes 3 polished black rocks set together on a part of the feature.
One day one was missing, it turned up in the upstairs closet. there is no logical explanation how it got there.

My wife has no interest in the paranormal/UFO's despite as a kid seeing along with the rest of her family on a car trip through a known UFO hotspot here ,what they describe as a huge flying cube, and she has also had a classic missing time event, where a trip that should have taken 2 hours took 4, with no traffic jams or anything else to explain the extra two hours.
 
Thanks for posting that Mike, I'm sure it was probably difficult to have to somewhat relive it while you wrote up the post, the added information makes it all the more interesting. I have to wonder what caused the old man to approach your wife, had you or her ever spoken to him before or is that the first time? In any case it's definitely strange. I can relate to the foul smell thing as well, during whatever it was that happened to me I remember a stench that I can only describe as something close to burnt cardboard. The whole thing probably didn't last even 5 minutes before I passed out or whatever, but I'll never forget that smell and the mind numbing, earth shattering fear that I felt, which is odd considering I never saw anything that I would consider frightening, other than shadows moving on the ceiling. I still think sleep paralysis is the most logical explanation for my experience but sometimes I do wonder...
 
I was wide awake and within 10 feet in both events. In this realm you can't rule anything out, but they appeared completely manifest, opaque and there did not seem to be a spectral quality to their appearance.
I can relate! This description sounds similar to the two conscious close proximity experiences in my life. The first was the visitation experience I had at age 6 or 7 (1964) of a group of non-human appearing entities that seemed to glide along and move in unison "like cattails in a breeze." The second was when a weird antler-adorned humanoid form appeared to glide across my greenhouse windows at dusk, from left-to-right, ten feet from me—outside my house in CO (1999).



Descriptions of entities exhibiting a "gliding" motion intrigue me and I intuit that this sinuous motion may be somehow diagnostic (?) in nature.



When I read your post I was immediately reminded of Raymond Fowler's Anddreasson/Watcher books. The one or more beings gliding/vibrating in a line without movement of the legs is prevalent in these accounts.
 
Thanks for the response and the PM, it sounds similar to the experience I had only because of the positioning of my bed at the time and the fact that I couldn't move anything but my eyes, I never actually saw any being or beings, just bright light and moving shadows. Still, I remember the feeling of complete and utter terror that I had during the event to this very day. These days I tend to think it was some kind of sleep paralysis type thing but I sure as hell didn't when I was younger. In the end, I'll probably never know for sure, but it's also one of the reasons I am not 100% a skeptic when it comes to these strange events, because in the end I can't say with any certainty exactly what happened.

Here's a question, just for my own curiosity's sake, do you remember smelling anything during your experience? If so, what was it like? You can PM me if you don't want to talk about it here.
So... you are only 100% skeptical of things that don't happen to you?
 
Mike, I recall you mentioned in another post- you have a typical looking grey alien "dummy" set up in your home, in an area where one could view it from outside the house. If true, and visible when the old man approached your wife- could that be the more obvious reason for his odd statements/behavior? (again, assuming the prop was already set up)
 
Thanks for sharing these events guys. They correspond to many many other accounts I have read with the exception of the antler guy Chris seen.

Could it be that for a very brief time you could have been granted a look either intentionally or unintentionally into a world that is typical for what it is?

I have always said that friends don't scare the crap out of other friends ( unless it's a brief joke with a fast explanation) and friends don't let other friends scare people almost to heart attack status. Taking that a step further, complete strangers who are good people seldom ever scare anyone they don't know,leading me to the conclusion that these guys/things are not good and don't have your best interest in mind.

If sleep paralysis is a condition that allows for hallucinations that apparently didn't come from the things already floating inside your brain, then It could be sleep paralysis. I don't tend to think that these things happen as a result of an inner physiological/psychological function.Mike admits he didn't watch any ET movies and the clear implication is that his mental state during sleep wasn't influenced by any prior mental stimulation.IOW there are things out there that either A. Induced a hallucinatory condition or B. Were in the house and by his bed up to something.
 
Thanks for posting that Mike, I'm sure it was probably difficult to have to somewhat relive it while you wrote up the post, the added information makes it all the more interesting. I have to wonder what caused the old man to approach your wife, had you or her ever spoken to him before or is that the first time? In any case it's definitely strange. I can relate to the foul smell thing as well, during whatever it was that happened to me I remember a stench that I can only describe as something close to burnt cardboard. The whole thing probably didn't last even 5 minutes before I passed out or whatever, but I'll never forget that smell and the mind numbing, earth shattering fear that I felt, which is odd considering I never saw anything that I would consider frightening, other than shadows moving on the ceiling. I still think sleep paralysis is the most logical explanation for my experience but sometimes I do wonder...

A lot of the symptoms that people experience during an episode of Hypnogagia or hypnopompia would make sense to me but I've never understood why particular odors, be it sulphur or burning cardboard would be a part of it scientifically speaking. There would seen to be no reason for it as opposed to the paralysis and labored breathing. as I've written before in my younger years, I suffered countless episodes of hypnopompia and I have absolutely no recall of smelling anything even though I understand it is not an uncommon sensation. Like muadib I never saw anything but In one distinct episode, as I was waking up I heard a female voice say "he's waking up" but I didn't have the typical reaction associated with sleep paralysis I had in the past as by this time I was learning to conquer the condition ...basically by coping with it.

Now they are quite rare and sporadic and very little panic or no panic at all. I can sense and anticipate it, and now the overriding sensation is musical tones. Sorry to get off topic.
 
So... you are only 100% skeptical of things that don't happen to you?

Show me one single post of mine that is skeptical towards someone's personal experience itself. You can't do it. What I am sometimes skeptical about is the conclusions that some people draw from these experiences or claims that people refuse to provide evidence for. I've stated many times that I have no problem believing that strange things happen to people and I would never call somebody a liar on their own personal account of an incident for which I was not present.
 
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