It's Official: FAA Gives UFO/UAP Directive to USA Air Traffic Controllers

[Goggs Mackay]

This is pretty staggering really. Firstly, I find it strange that an official body (FAA) would publish guidelines that route reports of any kind, onto a private company? Because when you think about it, when things are kept in official channels, persons making a report would expect some kind of traceable paper-trail and a modicum of accountability - but when reports go one-way into a private company, there cannot really be anyway to pursue sightings, to contact an 'end-user'
I'm aware that Bigelow has Govt. contracts but that only makes him like say, the Lockheed Skunkworks. No-one would expect much to come out of such a place, into the public domain and I'd expect about the same from BAASS.

One I suppose could take all this as being 'well the FAA doesn't have the time to look at all this UFO nonsense....' But that cannot be the case because if the subject was so silly in the first place, why would a serious, Govt. contracted company want to be associated with such reports?

And lastly, shouldn't the FAA wish to be informed of possible collisions etc? The recommending of local Law-enforcement for cases involving life and limb, is ridiculous. Ridiculous because I would expect when dealing with objects in the air, for local LEO's to wish to contact the FAA!

 

[Tony B.]

Ok why him first the ranch now uap reports?

Because he is the "Bigelow" as in "Bigelow Tea" and other things. He has lots and lots of money to spend and has chosen to spend some of it on sponsoring UFO research.

Unfortunately, from what I can tell - and I could be wrong - for the past several years, there seem to be strings attached; which involve him getting "ownership" of the data. He bankrolled MUFON's original 'Star Team' idea also, there was some fairly serious internal foo in MUFON over that, but it was before my time with them. I have heard that some people who'd been with the organization for quite some time then either left, or were 'invited' to quit.

 

[Tony B.]

Good thread.

We're glad you approve.

 

[Tony B.]

Because when you think about it, when things are kept in official channels, persons making a report would expect some kind of traceable paper-trail and a modicum of accountability

You probably already know all this, but: Go back and re-read the "Bolender memo", from around the time that Dr. Condon and crew let the Air Force off the hook. Hell, I'll even post the relevant bit here: “Reports of unidentified flying objects which could affect the national security are made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force Manual 55-11, and are not part of the Blue Book system.”

Paper trail? Sort of. There was a mass excising of witness information (names, addresses, etc) from the Blue Book files, before they were really made available. Accountability? Snerk. Blue Book was a public-relations sham, and had no real purpose, outside of allowing the Air Force to act like they were doing something about UFOs, and drawing attention away from whoever was REALLY investigating. Proof? I'm afraid I have none, outside of the circumstantial evidence. But I always, always, always bear in mind that some of this was the result of activities of a group of men (not all or even many, just some) who did and authorized things like: injecting live cancer cells into unsuspecting patients, and feeding radioactive mush to mentally-challenged orphan kids in a State hospital in New England - just to see what would happen. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Also see: ARMY-NAVY-AIR FORCE PUBLICATION 146(E) (JANAP 146[E])

 

[Constance]

I know you're right about the deeper secret governmental investigations of ufos, the diverting of the most significant cases out of Blue Book's hands and in part taken over by researchers in the Battelle Institute. No doubt there were other locations where the best cases were pursued by Air Force and alphabet agency specialists and never made public. Some of this came across in Tony Bragalia's research concerning Battelle's involvement with Roswell debris. Bragalia's lengthy reports of his research were recently taken down by the site that carried them. His intention was to relocate them somewhere else on the web, but I do not know if he has yet accomplished that.

The last I read about his situation was this, from Kevin Randall's site:

A Different Perspective: Anthony Bragalia, the Roswell Slides and the UFO Community

 

[spacebrother]

Bigelow's money is from real estate. No relationship to the tea company.
Robert Bigelow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Tony B.]

Bigelow's money is from real estate. No relationship to the tea company.

I will be darned. Thanks for straightening me out on that!

 

[Tony B.]

I know you're right about the deeper secret governmental investigations of ufos, the diverting of the most significant cases out of Blue Book's hands and in part taken over by researchers in the Battelle Institute.

Thanks for that link. I recall reading in one of Dr. Hynek's books, that there was an 'unspoken rule' around the Blue Book offices that the name "Battelle" must never be mentioned.

 

[Constance]

That statement by Hynek is interesting to hear at this point. Additional confirmation of what Bragalia has uncovered. There will likely be more.

 

[Tony B.]

When you are a billionaire and can buy a ranch where paranormal events take place and then try to buy Davenport's ufo reports, you probably aren't looking to share with the common folk.

Whoa. Been a while since I checked this forum - hadn't heard about that. He for dang sure wasn't sharing when he gave MUFON a pile of cash, from everything I've heard.

I'm going to be seeing Peter at McMinnville in May at the UFOFest, if I get a chance, maybe I'll ask him about it. (He's a fascinating gent to talk with!)