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That's funny. I didn't realize thay still had the old Apollo Moon landing stage still around. Isn't that Neil Armstrongs footprints in the foreground? Har har har!
 
Haha, never mind.
Guess it would help to read the info related to the photo. Thanks for not insulting my temporary ignorance on this matter. Doh!
Although you guys did enjoy a little play along with my indulgence of something I thought was more than it was. I'm thinking HEY this is serious stuff here and your talking about moon and Mars stages. All in good fun of course. I don't suppose this lends much credibility to my research abilities :o

Along with the four Navcam images taken on the 18th, each 1,024 by 1,024 pixels, this mosaic includes 26 Navcam images, of equivalent resolution, taken late at night on Aug. 7 PDT (early morning Aug. 8 EDT). Seams between the images have been minimized as much as possible.
 
Crikey people still "believe USA never went to the moon " man you need to get out and smell the fresh air. USA went to the Moon and people keep bagging the USA! I rather see USA as the dominate superpower than have a Communist China or dame Russia Putin style god hope you never have it on your doorstep!
 
Crikey people still "believe USA never went to the moon " man you need to get out and smell the fresh air. USA went to the Moon and people keep bagging the USA! I rather see USA as the dominate superpower than have a Communist China or dame Russia Putin style go hope you never have it on your doorstep!

Sad to say, but with the way things are headed the air is getting staler by the minute.
 
Sad to say, but with the way things are headed the air is getting staler by the minute.

I still hold NASA culpable for these 'wild' conspiracies. Yes, we made it to the moon-and back-and we can see the lander, etc.,BUT, you can't have it both ways-not addressing in a non prejudicial manner the extensive anomalies on moon and Mars photos-like its beneath them or..something. NASA-never a straight answer. They feed the beast, but at a precious cost-credibility, trust, and reductions in funding. Some on this forum will interpret that as me being just another 'believer' with a low threshold of critical skepticism. I say the knife cuts both ways.
 
I still hold NASA culpable for these 'wild' conspiracies. Yes, we made it to the moon-and back-and we can see the lander, etc.,BUT, you can't have it both ways-not addressing in a non prejudicial manner the extensive anomalies on moon and Mars photos-like its beneath them or..something.

Didn't they actually re-target "The Face" on Mars at more or less public request? How was that pushed through do you know off hand?

I think this begs the important question of whether NASA has ever been properly asked about these "anomalies on moon and Mars photos?"

Has there been any researcher who has made an effort to find out what the proper channels would be and formally pursued an answer for specific anomalous photographs? I mean, how would one go about that? I think the reality is that to get an answer from any government agency you have to go through the proper channels and protocol.

I don't think we can reasonably expect them to address the claims of Hoagland (complete with 19.5 bullshit) or anyone else that aren't formally and properly presented to the proper department or office of NASA. Would that even be in the budget?

Some on this forum will interpret that as me being just another 'believer' with a low threshold of critical skepticism.

Pfffft! I can only speak for myself. Although I tend to be more skeptical than yourself, I know you have purchased your cynicism with the legal tender of experience my friend.

I need something I can run down and bite into. I need to see something that when I scratch it, the paint proves to be baked on rather than a crumbling facade. That just seems to be very hard to find.
 
Yeah that's pretty amazing Mike. Impressive to say the least.

Yeah it is,

I'm a rabid environmentalist, watching as our beautiful biosphere and its magnificent eco systems and animals are destroyed i dont get many "proud to be a human" moments.

But looking up at that tiny red/orange dot and knowing we managed to pull off such a cunning stunt, does give me that rare proud to be a member of such a clever species moment.

We could wipe ourselves out tomorrow, or cruel fate could do it for us, but this awesome achievement will still stand, a indelible testimony to how wonderful we can be when we set our minds to it.
 
pretty awesome telescope he has there.
mike, destruction of the eco systems and animals are normal and part of the evolutionary cycle. without extreme climate changes we would not have polar bears or rabid humans.
 
pretty awesome telescope he has there.
mike, destruction of the eco systems and animals are normal and part of the evolutionary cycle. without extreme climate changes we would not have polar bears or rabid humans.

Whats happening is not "normal"

Species are currently going extinct at a faster rate than at any time in the past with the exception of cataclysmic encounters with extraterrestrial objects. A good proxy for the rate of extinction is the rate of growth in energy used by the human population. In other words, extinction rates are increasing in step with the product of population growth times the growth in affluence.

The cascade of current extinctions, however, is related mostly to destruction of habitat, and displacement by introduced species. Chemical pollutants, over harvesting and hybridization have played smaller but still significant role. While the actual extinction rate is difficult to pin down, there is no doubt that the planet is in the midst of a mass extinction of major proportions. The most conservative estimates place the extinction rate at 1000 times the background rate. These numbers are more easily accepted when placed in the context of habitat destruction.

Diversity and Extinctions


You've probably heard the stat that extinction rates are currently somewhere between 100-1000 times historic levels, which is bad enough, but now the Guardian reports the head of the Species Survival Commission for the International Union for the Conservation of Nature says that we've "almost certainly" crossed the threshold where species aren't evolving fast enough to keep up with increasing extinction rates.In fact Simon Stuart went on the say that predictions made by biologist EO Wilson that the extinction rate could hit 10,000 times the background rate by 2030 are bearing out.

Humans Pushing Extinction Rates Up Faster Than Species Can Evolve - Will Hit 10,000x Historic Rates : TreeHugger


For those wondering what this background rate talk is about, the fossil record shows that historically there has been a steady rate of extinction of about one per million species every year.

The current rate of extinction is not Normal. Its not

The recent fast global decline of ocean health points to a level of marine die-off similar to the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

  • The global marine environment is getting warmer, more acidic, and low on oxygen and all are consequences of human activity.
  • Ocean health has declined further and faster than dire forecasts only a few years ago.


Pollution and global warming are pushing the world's oceans to the brink of a mass extinction of marine life unseen for tens of millions of years, a consortium of scientists warned Monday.
"We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted."

Oceans in Distress Foreshadow Mass Extinction : Discovery News
 
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