There weren't any lunar modules in the 1947-53 period, where several crashes are said to have occurred. Fowler was impressed by a 1953 crash account and Randle mentioned possible witness corroboration for it. Kecksburg definitely seems real.
Plenty of others are as interesting if not as well supported.
Friedman expressed doubts about him but others have expressed doubts about those Friedman accepted.
Well i do agree there was no lunar modules in the 1940s and 1950's period, however there was lunar orbit rendezvous studies in the early and late fifties, but i agree with you on your point. Roswell was July 1947, Aztec 1949, and Kecksburg 1965, there is a possibility that something relating to the moon landings crash landed at Kecksburg, perhaps a manned space vehicle.
Some eyewitnesses reported, and don't no how reliable this eyewitnesses are, i just read their stories. Apparently Nasa officials were seen in the area at this time.
Or perhaps it was just a meteor, which would explain too, the reports of Nasa officials been seen. The blue flame that was seen and reported by eyewitnesses, that too would constituent, and verify reports of a meteor being the cause. "There is always a chance many of the UFO reports from the 1950's were not UFO's, but the U-2 Spy plane flying low over America or people saw, witnessed, observed, experimental craft being tested, but for what ever reason this designs after initial testing were never mass produced.
"Aztec is rubbish case and probably a fabricated hoax that smarter people should have avoided like the plague. So for me, I stick to what i said, Roswell is the only case of it's kind i give credence to. I believe Roswell, became more widely known after 1947 because of Stanton. F and It wasn't a case that got investigated at that time shame, UFO researchers were probably in short supply, but Roswell will always be the Holy grail of Ufology because if Roswell actually happened as stated by Stanton.
Then they probably know, whoever that is, a lot more than the average Joe or then the researchers who takes a keen interest in the Subject. I wouldn't presume to know what they could have gained, but it is stands to reason if Roswell has some truth, especially, in relation to them having found a unknown aircraft vehicle "perhaps build by another species from somewhere.
They have learned something in the last sixty years. "I guess, we can only learn new things if we are only behind them in development, say hundred years or so, a species that is million years ahead of us. We'll in my opinion, we be asking too much, even for our most brilliant scientists to repeat a technology, that is a million years ahead of us.
Can anyone envisage, how far ahead, the human species will be a million years from now " Will the Human species be a a type 2 civilization or type 3 civilization?
Back to Roswell, Here is
A alternative story to explain Roswell 1947 and what crashed. This requires no evidence,and i just throwing it out there for ye and see what ye think? I was thinking for ages should i post this? but what the heck here it is.
Say these, future humans, a million years ahead of us, created and build a UFO, it has time travelling technology on board the UFO. They constantly travel back in time to visit our ancient past and are visiting today and probably will in the future. One of this time lines and Destinations was Roswell 1947.
Now in the their future, there is no record of Roswell the story, the books are long gone, no memory of those events. Unfortunately having no memory of this occurrence, this ship travelled back to the year 1947.
For future humans there time line is their present future. What about a day later, a week later, month later, year later, couldn't these future humans with all their technology have sent another second ship to this time to remedy the situation, a couple of hours before the crash and stop it. "The problem was the craft broke up, when it arrived, from the future, by chance, lighting struck the craft, and broke it up into little pieces and they'd no chance of fixing the problem a day later, because the American military were on site cleaning up the mess.
Couldn't this future humans gone back a week or more to their time, and put a stop to this mission. Yes, but they couldn't change our history, erasing this event has to occur on both sides of the time line. One was easier to do, but they couldn't do anything on or side because the craft got destroyed when it arrived from the future. They've the ability to constantly change history so willing, but there is strict laws for time travelling, one law being, that future humans can't change history, that is written and documented and seen by thousands.
Nothing can't be erased. Exposure of who they are is not permitted, and they, can't intervene with our development as a species. One to one interactions don't expose to people, who they really are.
In reviewing this you've to remember their time line is their present. Just another scenario for Roswell. There is no reason, the same scenario, slight differences, wouldn't fit. If what crashed at Roswell was a craft build by non humans and they were using time travelling technology.
I no what i said, sounds like science fiction. It most certainly is , but perhaps Time travelling technology isn't fantasy, and could be near or distant invention of the future?
The problem with reversing technology that is million years ahead of us is this.
Sent back one of our latest phones to the Neanderthal and they wouldn't have a clue what they were looking at. We being humans would be probably be frustrated in not knowing what we are looking at and we probably just lock this technology up after extensive research if we could not yield anything from it.
Is time travel Crap.
Well think about this Trajanus, you are firm believer in the ETH hypothesis.
1)Why, is there reports from eyewitnesses, who claim, when they interacted with this phenomenon, in some cases, there was a reported slowing down of time for them.
2) Ancient reports of UFOs, described silvery discs, oval craft, cigar craft, balls of lights and other mysterious craft. Some of this reports go back thousands of years. So far what ever reason, this advanced civilization, or these civilization's, have not updated there craft a whole lot, even the level of technology seems, to be pretty much the same as in the past. The triangular craft or boomerang seem to be a new design. Why are these races not evolving as time passes considering what we known from UFO reports in the past. So just an opinion, could certain non human races be using time travel technology, to visit our past ,and that is why, we have so many reports of similar craft back then as today. I'm really puzzled that the craft haven't changed much.
The triangles are seen more know than the Disc and least the more publicised cases of today seem to involve this type of craft. It could be a entirely new species visiting us or just a new version of a UFO. But in Celt lore there is a story, that the "Tuatha de Dannánn" the fairies arrived in Ireland by way of the air and landed near a mountain and there ships were said to resemble large dark clouds what ever that means for sure. Perhaps it means, there flying ships were of a Dark colour? The Tuatha were said to be human looking, but there is stories of beings that were not human.
As for Lazar, since i don't buy any of the other crashed retrieval stories. I consider Lazar to be a fraud.
Lazar claimed that he saw seven to eight different disc type craft inside a hangar at Area 51. MY believe is that only one case has the potential of being genuine, so, I'm waving a big red flag, when it comes to Lazar. I'll give a scenario and it, is for does of you that are believers in his story; there could be this number of discs at Area 51.
If they're prototype craft, build by, the hands of Humans, and the one Lazar got to view, was an actual Alien craft. Lazar said himself, the one he viewed was in his opinion Alien, but i don't remember for the life of me, him saying that he got to look inside the other craft that were there. But like i said, I'm not a believer and have goods reason to not believe his story.
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