-
NEW! LOWEST RATES EVER -- SUPPORT THE SHOW AND ENJOY THE VERY BEST PREMIUM PARACAST EXPERIENCE! Welcome to The Paracast+, eight years young! For a low subscription fee, you can download the ad-free version of The Paracast and the exclusive, member-only, After The Paracast bonus podcast, featuring color commentary, exclusive interviews, the continuation of interviews that began on the main episode of The Paracast. We also offer lifetime memberships! Flash! Take advantage of our lowest rates ever! Act now! It's easier than ever to susbcribe! You can sign up right here!
Michio Kaku on MSNBC talking about Leslie Kean's New Book says "UFOs are real"
- Thread starter Skymon876
- Start date
Free episodes:
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Michio Kaku rocks,
Now what I'd really love to hear is the Bill Nye the science guy reply to this
Skymon876
Paranormal Adept
I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Kaku and show him some of our work at NARCAP during a symposium that we both presented at. It was hosted by George Washington University back in 2003... the subject was UAP and Interstellar Travel. He was very gracious and even then was satisfied that the ETH was not only a viable explanation but a probable one with respect to some UAP reports. It is gratifying to see him step out in support of Leslie, he is a very bright man.
For those who don't know, he built his first collider at 14 to photo subatomic particles. His college education was paid for by Richard Feynman's wife, if I recall correctly. He is a principle researcher in string theory and a very accessible person. I recommend his book "Hyperspace" highly for anyone who wants to understand the history of dimensionality and quantum physics. Easy read, very informative and stimulating.
It was a privilege to share the podium with him. There were others including Dr. Haisch, Dr. Kaku, Dr. Henry, John Callahan, and some others. Its been awhile so the names aren't tripping off my tongue. Hosted by Podesta Mattoon and SciFi Channel...
http://www.freedomofinfo.org/science.html
For those who don't know, he built his first collider at 14 to photo subatomic particles. His college education was paid for by Richard Feynman's wife, if I recall correctly. He is a principle researcher in string theory and a very accessible person. I recommend his book "Hyperspace" highly for anyone who wants to understand the history of dimensionality and quantum physics. Easy read, very informative and stimulating.
It was a privilege to share the podium with him. There were others including Dr. Haisch, Dr. Kaku, Dr. Henry, John Callahan, and some others. Its been awhile so the names aren't tripping off my tongue. Hosted by Podesta Mattoon and SciFi Channel...
http://www.freedomofinfo.org/science.html
The Pair of Cats
a.k.a Philip Deane
Cool! Nice one , Ryan
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
My respect-o-meter for Kaku was already somewhere in the ionosphere. I think we just achieved the orbit of Neptune. WOW, I know he has said some flattering things about the existence of the UFO phenomenon before but that was a declaration. Seriously, he is a celebrated scientist and many consider him the Carl Sagen of my generation. To hear him standing up and saying that we need to take the 5% seriously is awesome. Perhaps this will start to open doors of inquiry for other progressive and envelope pushing scientists?
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
I am going to merge the threads.
I am going to merge the threads.
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
I see it as a major blow to conservative 'in the box' thinking and the cosmic watergate protective barriers needed to protect evangelicals and religious fundamentalist types from their paranoid delusions of demonic invasion lol.
Possibly a turning point in human perception... going from 'human centric' to ET centric is perhaps the most destabilizing concept to swallow.
On the other hand, this might be a fantastic opportunity for pharmaceutical corporations that will be producing pills to counter paranoid tendencies))
I see it as a major blow to conservative 'in the box' thinking and the cosmic watergate protective barriers needed to protect evangelicals and religious fundamentalist types from their paranoid delusions of demonic invasion lol.
Possibly a turning point in human perception... going from 'human centric' to ET centric is perhaps the most destabilizing concept to swallow.
On the other hand, this might be a fantastic opportunity for pharmaceutical corporations that will be producing pills to counter paranoid tendencies
))Frank Stalter
Paranormal Maven
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
It would have been nice if Kaku hadn't trotted out the old bromide that "we can explain" 95% of all UFO sightings. That's an old number from the Blue Book days and it's complete BS. Slapping an explanation on a sighting is not the same as explaining it and consider what that 95% number means:
That 19 out of every 20 witnesses describes the sighting well enough for an investigator to make a prosaic determination. No way!
Assuming that every UFO witness can be properly descriptive it also means that in 19 of every 20 incidents an investigator can tell the witness what he/she saw. No way!
So you've got two serious blocks against coming up with a high percentage of proper explanations under the best of circumstances, yet the number is 95%? Not a chance.
Two out of three at the very best, that's where I'd park it.
It would have been nice if Kaku hadn't trotted out the old bromide that "we can explain" 95% of all UFO sightings. That's an old number from the Blue Book days and it's complete BS. Slapping an explanation on a sighting is not the same as explaining it and consider what that 95% number means:
That 19 out of every 20 witnesses describes the sighting well enough for an investigator to make a prosaic determination. No way!
Assuming that every UFO witness can be properly descriptive it also means that in 19 of every 20 incidents an investigator can tell the witness what he/she saw. No way!
So you've got two serious blocks against coming up with a high percentage of proper explanations under the best of circumstances, yet the number is 95%? Not a chance.
Two out of three at the very best, that's where I'd park it.
Sean Elifritz
Administrator
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I actually thought his percentage was too low. I'm more of the opinion that probably 99% of all UFO reports constitute nothing.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I actually thought his percentage was too low. I'm more of the opinion that probably 99% of all UFO reports constitute nothing.
Frank Stalter
Paranormal Maven
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
The 99% constitute nothing number is fine, certainly low considering how many UFO sightings there actually are, but that isn't what Kaku said. "You name it, we've got it nailed," is what he said and the number he used was 95%.
The 99% constitute nothing number is fine, certainly low considering how many UFO sightings there actually are, but that isn't what Kaku said. "You name it, we've got it nailed," is what he said and the number he used was 95%.
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
IMHO, 95% is used symbolically to boldly contradict the Condon report statistics... In other words he's saying Condon is BS. As a scientist, it is very risky to offer a figure without proper backing. At 2.5x more than the Condon findings, I'd love to hear where he got 5% unknowns
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16785256/PseudoScience-of-AntiUfology-by-Stanton-T-Friedman
IMHO, 95% is used symbolically to boldly contradict the Condon report statistics... In other words he's saying Condon is BS. As a scientist, it is very risky to offer a figure without proper backing. At 2.5x more than the Condon findings, I'd love to hear where he got 5% unknowns
Stanton Friedman goes out way beyond at 21.5% unknowns (based on Blue Book report 14) calling the exercise a flat out lie.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16785256/PseudoScience-of-AntiUfology-by-Stanton-T-Friedman
Frank Stalter
Paranormal Maven
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
That's part of my point exactly. The other part is that if a witness of a UFO came to me, and for the sake of this argument I'm an omniscient aerial phenomenon expert, with their account I could tell them what they saw with 95% accuracy . . . . well, it's just not doable.
IMHO, 95% is used symbolically to boldly contradict the Condon report statistics... In other words he's saying Condon is BS. As a scientist, it is very risky to offer a figure without proper backing. At 2.5x more than the Condon findings, I'd love to hear where he got 5% unknowns
That's part of my point exactly. The other part is that if a witness of a UFO came to me, and for the sake of this argument I'm an omniscient aerial phenomenon expert, with their account I could tell them what they saw with 95% accuracy . . . . well, it's just not doable.
jkoci
Watcher of the Skies
Michio Kaku rocks,
It is nice to see that he gives Kean's book some credence.
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
@Ezekial,
If you want a good engagement on Blue Book, Hynek, Vallee and Dr. McDonald read Ann Druffles book "Firestorm"... she documents rather well many conversations and engagements and brings in Dr. Vallee who was present often to add his perspective. McDonald vacillated between the idea that the problems related to UFO studies were the result of a failure of Hynek to bring the matter to the attention of science (it is suggested that he was more concerned with maintaining his contract) and a "major foul up" on the part of the AF vs an outright coverup. However there was plenty of instances where he believed that the matter was being obfuscated...
Its a great read and essential for getting a grip on the Blue Book era and McDonald is truly a hero in this study, IMHO.
@Ezekial,
If you want a good engagement on Blue Book, Hynek, Vallee and Dr. McDonald read Ann Druffles book "Firestorm"... she documents rather well many conversations and engagements and brings in Dr. Vallee who was present often to add his perspective. McDonald vacillated between the idea that the problems related to UFO studies were the result of a failure of Hynek to bring the matter to the attention of science (it is suggested that he was more concerned with maintaining his contract) and a "major foul up" on the part of the AF vs an outright coverup. However there was plenty of instances where he believed that the matter was being obfuscated...
Its a great read and essential for getting a grip on the Blue Book era and McDonald is truly a hero in this study, IMHO.
tyder001
Paranormal Adept
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
Anybody notice the "requisite hynea" nuttiness of the interviewer. People gripe about Ian Punnett over on Coast but at least he "reads" every author he interviews. It was apparent that this guy didn't even bother to read anything about Dr. Kaku. For instance "grin, chuckle" do you teach about u.f.o.'s professor? Then he seems (credit him with that) to realize that maybe he's actually talking to a "smart and learned scientist here" and seems to drop the smirk. Still, (and maybe I'm to sensitive) I thought it was there for just an instance.
Now for the one 'bone" I have with the good doctor. I'm not an Astronomer and I barley find the big dipper some nights. But, I have Never, Ever, EVER , mistaken Venus for a U.F.O.. Know what? I don't think many people do. Other than that I enjoyed it.
Anybody notice the "requisite hynea" nuttiness of the interviewer. People gripe about Ian Punnett over on Coast but at least he "reads" every author he interviews. It was apparent that this guy didn't even bother to read anything about Dr. Kaku. For instance "grin, chuckle" do you teach about u.f.o.'s professor? Then he seems (credit him with that) to realize that maybe he's actually talking to a "smart and learned scientist here" and seems to drop the smirk. Still, (and maybe I'm to sensitive) I thought it was there for just an instance.
Now for the one 'bone" I have with the good doctor. I'm not an Astronomer and I barley find the big dipper some nights. But, I have Never, Ever, EVER , mistaken Venus for a U.F.O.. Know what? I don't think many people do. Other than that I enjoyed it.
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Michio Kaku comments Leslie Kean's book
Found the answer...
It comes from the french 'Cometa' report (1999).
http://www.ecologynews.com/cometa.html
Thus, Leslie Kean and Michio Kaku fully endorse and trust the results of the french investigation to be above the Condon report
IMHO, 95% is used symbolically to boldly contradict the Condon report statistics... In other words he's saying Condon is BS. As a scientist, it is very risky to offer a figure without proper backing. At 2.5x more than the Condon findings, I'd love to hear where he got 5% unknowns
Found the answer...
It comes from the french 'Cometa' report (1999).
http://www.ecologynews.com/cometa.html
Thus, Leslie Kean and Michio Kaku fully endorse and trust the results of the french investigation to be above the Condon report