Moulten Howe at it again - a new drone report + photo

[Gen]

What is a "vagina storm:?

It's the opposite of these forums.

 

[Gareth]

It's the opposite of these forums.

lol .......

 

[Tommy Allison]

Is it possible to disagree with people and advance different points of view without spewing personal insults and vulgarities?

What would be the point of being nice, when someone has insulted your intelligence?

I'm all about being nice to people who have different points of view, but when their abject idiocy rears its ugly head and there's no reasoning with them, then that's when the bets are off.

 

[Tommy Allison]

It's the opposite of these forums.

No, there seems to be a surplus of Estrogen with a lot of posters.

 

[DrDil]

I believe she was referring to these two amongst others. I wrote a little about this at the time, here’s an excerpt:

When Is A Kite Not A Kite?

In a thinly veiled attempting to justify this she states that:

“THAT WAS APPARENTLY PROVOKED BY SOME CALCULATED MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BY
PEOPLE UNKNOWN IN 2007 TRYING TO PAINT THE PHOTOS THAT EMERGED AS BEING HOAXED.”

I had to re-read it a couple of times!!

Firstly, apart from the fact that LMH completely ignored the fact that 2007 Drones were analysed and found to be CGI by every single specialist who took the time, some of whom are industry recognised professionals and I hasten to add these are not ‘debunkers' by any stretch of the imagination as they are also believers and/or have first hand experience of the nuts & bolts UFO phenomenon.

Secondly the entire Petten Drone/kite are and the full article by LMH is basically turning a kite into a Drone and then it climaxes with unknown persons waging a “MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN ”!!

Still, I suppose she is the expert…..

I am however still pleased that LMH conducted the interview in her usual manner.

I say this because as this time she wasn't the first port-of-call for the witness, it meant that she wasn't reporting on a sighting, witness & images that only she had exclusive access to (which was often the case with the original Drone reports).

So in my humble opinion and albeit inadvertently she's done us all a favour by once again reminding us of why the moniker of ‘story-teller' is infinitely more applicable than that of ‘investigative reporter' or a ‘scientific consultant' (which C2C touts her as when she appears on their show).

Full post is here.

And a brief follow up post involving Strieber here.

I posted a few days ago about what I believed was a kite being touted as a Drone. I was a little surprised at how quickly this was embraced as such by LMH, especially considering her last few posts were almost a year ago. Earthfiles posted a bit when the flap was ongoing in the summer 2007 but in all of 2008 and until April 2009 only four related posts were made:
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• 06/06/2008 — Aerial Ring with Antennas in Southern Ohio Forest and Chicago Dragonfly Drone
• 05/09/2008 — Dragonfly Drones - Surveillance Technology?
• 04/04/2008 — Wingless, “Dragonfly” Sighting On March 31, 2008
• 03/21/2008 — Part 2, Dragonfly-Shaped Aerial Craft: Current Media Misinformation Versus Eyewitnesses 1987 to 2007
• 03/07/2008 — Mysterious Aerial “Drones” - Oklahoma and Arkansas
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Also all of these witnesses made the Drone association themselves which is why it seemed doubly strange when the most recent Petten witness was blissfully unaware of the Drones and indeed their implications when quizzed by LMH. Yet the association was still made and LMH gleefully added this new account to her Drone timeline while the second post regarding this was a couple of emails, both of which made tenuous connections. The first one with the Petten reactor and the second with another one of LMH's marketable passions, crop circles, but as I said I was a little puzzled as to why this report was being ‘overcooked' as it were.
I was also puzzled as to why the sudden interest by LMH in what was an explainable sighting and her eagerness to portray it as a Drone, well, that was until I found the following which was recently posted to Whitley Strieber's website, it's from the press release for the Dreamland-II festival in June (2009) and states that:
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The crop circles of 2008 astonished researchers and silenced debunkers, and Linda Moulton Howe is going to tell us why and then go beyond public knowledge and into the mysterious world of leaked documents and attempts to back-engineer technology based on the patterns. One pattern in 2008 amazed scientists when the first ten digits of the infinite number Pi were found embedded in t. This coded circle was found near Barbury castle, where a 1991 circle inspired astronomer Gerald Hawkins to discover new geometry theorems. Further, in 2008 and 1991, the same Barbury Castle ratcheted spiral designs in which numbers have been embedded is found in an alleged leaked document from the 1980s linked to back-engineering extraterrestrial technology. This is THE crop circle presentation. There has been nothing like it before. EVER.
Source: Dreamland Store.
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Obviously the, “leaked document from the 1980s linked to back-engineering extraterrestrial technology” is none other than the documentation which accompanied the Drones and crudely presented as genuine by Isaac, yep, the faked Caret documents.

All for a measly $250!!

So you see really it's a most fortuitous coincidence that the Drones are indeed still making headlines, even if it does only appear to be at Earthfiles…..

Cheers.

 

[Gareth]

Thanks for the information DrLil

 

[Tommy Allison]

Howe Now Brown Cow?

I am still waiting for my Linda Moulton Howe Porno to surface.

 

[dianadee13]

I've always considered LMH to be a not-so-great investigator, but the idea that she actively hoaxes shit seems a bit of a stretch as well. I really think her ego is too big for games like that. If she finds some witnesses, so much the better.

Has anyone considered the idea that the CARET and maybe even the Chad material are government disinfo?

Yeah I agree with you, There's more disinformation out there than we can keep up with.
Lets keep carets in the vegetable patch in the garden and Chads to the long nosed drawings once found on pasted all over walls here in the Uk! 'Wot no brains' None of it to be taken seriously!!!

 

[DavidRavenMoon]

How many times do people really get abducted by aliens?

Seriously.

Apparently more than you seem to think.

Do you think all these people are making it up? Seriously. Why would they? It's a very frightening experience for these people.

John Mack seemed to think something was going on, and he didn't believe in UFOs either. But he also didn't think these people were lying or delusional.

If you just dismiss things because you don't personally believe them, and not based on any evidence, that's not very good investigating either. The people who dismiss UFOs in general never even bother to do any research. Not every report can be attributed as a misinterpreting a known object. A lot of people who see UFOs certainly can identity aircraft or planets by name.

Same is true of people who claim they had an abduction experience. When many people tell the same story over and over, you have to stop and give it a look. It's happened to some very credible people.

You have to be able to prove they aren't being abducted to make the claim that it doesn't happen. Now once we establish that people are indeed having these experiences, we have to figure out what those experiences actually are. I don't think anyone can do that yet.

We have to be honest here... we may never know the answers to any of these questions. Not unless "they" want up to know, what ever "they" might be. It's happening to too many people to be BS.

Getting back to LMH. She does some very credible reports, the drones notwithstanding. Not to defend her, but she seems to believe it based on others who have come and told her they saw these things.. and is now saying they saw them like 20 years ago. I think she's sincere, but wrong.

I think it's probably nonsense, as the photos looked fake, and I never heard of a single report of anything like that object before that first report.

But it's good to be objective about everything, at least in the beginning. People didn't believe the ape-man stories back in the 1800s until someone killed a Gorilla.

 

[dianadee13]

I think LMH has and is doing some good work but she doesnt help her credibility allowing obvious fake photos on her site.
I am sure theres so much going on out there that we cant possibily begin to understand but one has to use disernment and be careful of those who set out to fool us in such a deliberate way.

 

[David Biedny]

LMH generates a lot more noise than signal, so she's part of the problem, not the solution, IMO. Gullible folks are a dime a dozen.

dB