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[jimbo83478]

Independent doc on the Pentagon attacks

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[Jose Collado]

I tend to steer clear of anything 9/11 related but the Pentagon strike has always been interesting.

 

[jimbo83478]

Jose, give it a look if you have time and let us know what you think.

 

[Gojira2006]

I've always found the Pentagon crash to be the most troublesome aspect of the whole September 11th attack . . . It would be interesting to see/hear what Captain Chesley Sullenberger, who successfully piloted the Airbus A320 of US Airways Flight 1549 into the Hudson River after it was struck by a flock of birds, would have to say about the evidence presented in the video . . . I think that if seasoned airline pilots have problems with the official theory of the Pentagon strike, then we should all at least take a second look . . .

 

[Xylo]

I am suspicious of this particular incident. I'll have to watch the video at home, however.

 

[pixelsmith]

I tend to steer clear of anything 9/11 related but the Pentagon strike has always been interesting.

why is that?

 

[Jose Collado]

Steering clear of 9/11 or the Pentagon strike?

 

[pixelsmith]

Steering clear of 9/11 or the Pentagon strike?

both. when you realize the official story of either one is BS you can follow the trail to the rest of our current problems.

 

[skunkape]

Let's put 2 and 2 together here.

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The comptroller at the Pentagon at the time was a man named Dov Zackheim, a dual U.S./Israeli citizen and former CEO of System Planning Corporation.
http://sysplan.com/Radar/FTS
This company made what they call the Flight Termination System which allows a plane to be remotely controlled, in case a terrorist tries to hijack it...or in case you need to destroy the accounting office that holds evidence of where a missing $2 1/2 trillion actually went.


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[pixelsmith]

as i recall there were 2 types of radar systems working at the pentagon. one to see commercial craft and one for military or other threats. also in place is a missile defense system and hundreds of video surveillance equipment of which several were pointed in the direction of the impact site. all of this protection, and probably more, were rendered useless by a 99 cent box cutter and a pilot who could not even fly a cessna.

i propose we arm every person in the military with a box cutter and a box of matches.

 

[Bixyboo]

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The comptroller at the Pentagon at the time was a man named Dov Zackheim, a dual U.S./Israeli citizen and former CEO of System Planning Corporation.
This company made what they call the Flight Termination System which allows a plane to be remotely controlled, in case a terrorist tries to hijack it...or in case you need to destroy the accounting office that holds evidence of where a missing $2 1/2 trillion actually went.


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chuckles wryly.

 

[Jose Collado]

both. when you realize the official story of either one is BS you can follow the trail to the rest of our current problems.

I don't touch anything related to 9/11...period. My interest is simply that, an interest.

 

[Kieran]

9/11 was a major event that shaped American foreign policy for eight years .We have people throwing up their arms now claiming this event is not a straight forward as the Goverment claims. I don't confess to have looked at the events of that day in any great detail.

We now for sure... four planes were hijacked with a number of people on board each plane. We now this... because passenger logs exist of names and addresses, they usually on a computer system with the given Airline or the agency you booked with.

The First plane.. hit the First tower sometime before Nine. The second one.. hit sometime after nine, American time.

One of the claims ( were is the plane that hit the pentagon?) If we look at the events in New york. The planes hit the towers and were completely developed by the Towers.
People watching the News.. saw it go in one end and not come out the other end.

We have two pieces of evidence in New york, of two planes going straight into buildings and notting of the plane's seen again.So why does this shock people. When the plane hit the pentagon and left notting that is conclusive of a plane hit.

The eyewitness's on that tape saw a plane, so it is definately a plane.... jumping to a conclusion that it was a Controlled plane withount a pilot is lacking evidence.

Why did'nt the pentagon defences shoot down the plane.

I not sure, because i have not looked at it in any great detail. I look at it this way.... I suggest that the intelligence services in American, probably had information to something been planned. But,it is another think to suggest that they knew the whole operation details of the Al Qaeda Cells.

The attacks happened in New york first. So naturally, i think everything was focused on That area at the time. I think, America intelligence.. had an idea that planes may be used for Attacks on buildings, but did it they now what targets? I think they were shocked by the scale of the operation.When the pentagon was hit. I think the they knew then, that this opertion was beyond anything they could have imagined.

I not going to go into Conspiracy of how the twin towers came down.There is no evidence for anything then what we know to be.

We have video of this people who took over the planes.We have phone calls from passengers describeing what they saw and the descriptions of the men.knives and box cutters can kill. The Passengers were civilians they were frightened. They had now idea what was happening to them.Come of it people.... If you had people sticking knives into your face, would you be a hero or just keep quiet and hope you get of the plane in one piece. The passengers of the first three planes had no idea that this was suicide mission.

 

[pixelsmith]

9/11 was a major event that shaped American foreign policy for eight years .We have people throwing up their arms now claiming this event is not a straight forward as the Goverment claims. I don't confess to have looked at the events of that day in any great detail.

We now for sure... four planes were hijacked with a number of people on board each plane. We now this... because passenger logs exist of names and addresses, they usually on a computer system with the given Airline or the agency you booked with.

The First plane.. hit the First tower sometime before Nine. The second one.. hit sometime after nine, American time.

One of the claims ( were is the plane that hit the pentagon?) If we look at the events in New york. The planes hit the towers and were completely developed by the Towers.
People watching the News.. saw it go in one end and not come out the other end.

We have two pieces of evidence in New york, of two planes going straight into buildings and notting of the plane's seen again.So why does this shock people. When the plane hit the pentagon and left notting that is conclusive of a plane hit.

The eyewitness's on that tape saw a plane, so it is definately a plane.... jumping to a conclusion that it was a Controlled plane withount a pilot is lacking evidence.

Why did'nt the pentagon defences shoot down the plane.

I not sure, because i have not looked at it in any great detail. I look at it this way.... I suggest that the intelligence services in American, probably had information to something been planned. But,it is another think to suggest that they knew the whole operation details of the Al Qaeda Cells.

The attacks happened in New york first. So naturally, i think everything was focused on That area at the time. I think, America intelligence.. had an idea that planes may be used for Attacks on buildings, but did it they now what targets? I think they were shocked by the scale of the operation.When the pentagon was hit. I think the they knew then, that this opertion was beyond anything they could have imagined.

I not going to go into Conspiracy of how the twin towers came down.There is no evidence for anything then what we know to be.

We have video of this people who took over the planes.We have phone calls from passengers describeing what they saw and the descriptions of the men.knives and box cutters can kill. The Passengers were civilians they were frightened. They had now idea what was happening to them.Come of it people.... If you had people sticking knives into your face, would you be a hero or just keep quiet and hope you get of the plane in one piece. The passengers of the first three planes had no idea that this was suicide mission.

you need a LOT more research. there is plenty of evidence that a controlled demolition brought down the WTC towers. a study of #7 is enough to turn theory into probability. it was a very strong building that was reinforced further after it was built in order to house a emergency command bunker for giuliani and a host of "ABC" agencies as well as the court documents for many important court cases like Enron. btw- no plane hit the building and it fell neatly into its own footprint at free fall speed for several seconds. that can not happen unless the mass below was moved out of the way.

 

[Kieran]

you need a LOT more research. there is plenty of evidence that a controlled demolition brought down the WTC towers. a study of #7 is enough to turn theory into probability. it was a very strong building that was reinforced further after it was built in order to house a emergency command bunker for giuliani and a host of "ABC" agencies as well as the court documents for many important court cases like Enron. btw- no plane hit the building and it fell neatly into its own footprint at free fall speed for several seconds. that can not happen unless the mass below was moved out of the way.

For argument sake... How do you suggest they planted the dynamite, C4, What ever they used. In two separate buildings withount anyone ever seeing them?
Surely,there was cameras, security personal monitoring the building at the time.

You take very big risk in doing something like that if you are caught.

Another point, they would have to have know were the Aircraft were going to strike and when. For this plan to work. Withount the strike on the twin towers the rest of the plan is useless.

There is no evidence. If that is the scenario you comeing to. You have to produce a least one piece of evidence that people will look at and say yes definately, something other the planes crashing into the twin towers caused the collapse.I dont see it, honestly dont.

I think the pressure of the heat inside the buildings and everything burning up.Just caused the floors to give way and it fell down from top to bottom.

In fact underneath, the rubble when the fireman and construction crews were digging for survivors. They found that some of the basement was intact. Were one fireman siad even, you could have actually drove out some of the cars from the garage below they were so perfect. And some of the shops were ok even. It was just that there was so much rubble from the Collapse you wouldnt have not known until you got underneath.

If someone came and showed me, were someone found a piece of explosive from the twin tower ruins. Then i might change my mind. Then i say' How did that get there. That is interesting..

 

[dusty]

Thanks jimbo83478,

I was planning on taking my family to California next year for a long awaited and much needed holiday and to stay with my brother and his family.

Well that is going on the back burner until the scum that were really behind this whole Reichstag Fire type bullshit are either in prison or better yet dropped off either in Iraq or Afghanistan, preferably in enemy territory.

From the bottom of my heart I hope the American people do the right thing and find a way of bringing these bastards to justice for the sake of the whole world and yourselves especially.

Mark

 

[MrChud]

For argument sake... How do you suggest they planted the dynamite, C4, What ever they used. In two separate buildings withount anyone ever seeing them?
Surely,there was cameras, security personal monitoring the building at the time.

You take very big risk in doing something like that if you are caught.

Another point, they would have to have know were the Aircraft were going to strike and when. For this plan to work. Withount the strike on the twin towers the rest of the plan is useless.

There is no evidence. If that is the scenario you comeing to. You have to produce a least one piece of evidence that people will look at and say yes definately, something other the planes crashing into the twin towers caused the collapse.I dont see it, honestly dont.

I think the pressure of the heat inside the buildings and everything burning up.Just caused the floors to give way and it fell down from top to bottom.

In fact underneath, the rubble when the fireman and construction crews were digging for survivors. They found that some of the basement was intact. Were one fireman siad even, you could have actually drove out some of the cars from the garage below they were so perfect. And some of the shops were ok even. It was just that there was so much rubble from the Collapse you wouldnt have not known until you got underneath.

If someone came and showed me, were someone found a piece of explosive from the twin tower ruins. Then i might change my mind. Then i say' How did that get there. That is interesting..

Don't you know? Those dirty jooz paid off all the police, security and firemen to keep it hush-hush. Sheesh I thought everyone knew that by now. :

 

[Kieran]

Don't you know? Those dirty jooz paid off all the police, security and firemen to keep it hush-hush. Sheesh I thought everyone knew that by now. :

Indeed very silly.You can't just plant just one Explosive to bring it down. You need a number of points for explosives to bring it down.
This increases the risk of being caught. You put explosives in one tower that is risky, but you then put explosives in the second tower that is just being insane.

 

[pixelsmith]

For argument sake... How do you suggest they planted the dynamite, C4, What ever they used. In two separate buildings withount anyone ever seeing them?
Surely,there was cameras, security personal monitoring the building at the time.

you have much to learn grasshopper. lol.

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]

On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower."

President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel.

it has also been proven that evidence of nano thermite was found in the dust from the WTC.

 

[pixelsmith]

I think the pressure of the heat inside the buildings and everything burning up.Just caused the floors to give way and it fell down from top to bottom.

you obviously havent studied the construction blue prints of the towers as i have. th eoriginal blue prints were made available in 2007 i think. the pancake theory was thrown out years ago. the core structure could not have collapsed on itself so it should have remained standing with your theory.