Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?

[Experiencer7]

* These are very rare creatures these days. I only know of two or three.[/QUOTE]


Yeah? Who owns them?

 

[tallisinn]

well, unless they plan on completing their nefarious scheme before another single housing unit is built, they are going to miss a bunch of houses...
come on, people, nothing is static, including housing addresses. places are built, torn down, etc.
what if it is to figure out postal routes? or maybe to put into the Revenue/Taxation records to make sure the house exists and match it to income tax returns? something like that.
nobody needs a GPS to eliminate an address. Jets can bomb just as effectively without a gps target, doncha know.

oh, you are talking the subtle stuff. like anthrax or something? again, why bother spending the money on gps? just mail it to the front door like every other home-educated terrorist can figure out.

maybe it is being done as a make-work project. You know, keep some of the people employed using tax dollars directly on their paycheques, not the bonuses of the top echelon.
makes much more sense.

This is part of the preparation for the coming Census in 2010. They are employees of the US Bureau of Census. I personally know a person who is employed in this activity.

 

[Experiencer7]

If all the arms of government were allowed to share data rather than gather it redundantly., it would save tax dollars. And it would save "we the people" a load of identical paperwork.

 

[Tommy Allison]

>census One entry found.
Main Entry: cen·sus
Pronunciation: ˈsen(t)-səs Function: noun Etymology: Latin, from censēre Date: 1634
1: a count of the population and a property evaluation in early Rome
2: a usually complete enumeration of a population ; specifically : a periodic governmental enumeration of population
3: count, tally
A census is most definitely a count and only a count. It is not the acquisition of the GPS locations of the front door of every house in the nation. There is a specific Constitutionally defined purpose for the census and the GPS locations of household front doors is not part of that purpose.

 

[skunkape]

They don't need your GPS coordinates. They already have that ocular implant imbedded that broadcasts everything you see, think, or do to a central data base.
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[Experiencer7]

They don't need your GPS coordinates. They already have that ocular implant imbedded that broadcasts everything you see, think, or do to a central data base.
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My God!, imagine how much porn they have to review.

 

[AnnetteMarie]

If all the arms of government were allowed to share data rather than gather it redundantly., it would save tax dollars. And it would save "we the people" a load of identical paperwork.

I used to think that, until I started noticing how folks didn't like it when governmental departments shared info, it made it too easy for the welfare department to figure out that so and so paid taxes on way more money than they said they earned, and so and so didn't claim any earning on their tax return, yet they were paid money by such and such governmental department...

any time something comes along to save time and money, somebody in the general population or the bureaucracy comes up with a reason not to allow it.

and they usually win over common sense.

 

[magican2009]

You mention several provocative actions that the Obama administration has taken in its first 100 days. Unfortunately, using the census example as your primary point is probably not the best way to go, especially in light of the government slowly and methodically attempting to insert itself into all corners of the free market.
Good post.

 

[0uterj0in]

Agreed. I've got serious problems with how the Obama admin is handling the torture issue, hiding previous power abuses with bogus "state secrets" defense, and the cronyism of financial industry bailout. These are all real issues.

This census-GPS stuff is just fake issue invented by right wing noise machine to distract people from real issues.

It doesn't even make sense. The Geocode process of mapping postal addresses to Lat/Long coordinates is a matter of public record -- google this and you can download your own Lat/Long for free. There is no need for people to physically capture this data.

 

[Martha162]

Outerjoin,

This may be the case...

"It doesn't even make sense. The Geocode process of mapping postal addresses to Lat/Long coordinates is a matter of public record -- google this and you can download your own Lat/Long for free. There is no need for people to physically capture this data."

but yesterday I noticed a strange car in our driveway (we live in the woods about 3/4 mile from our nearest neighbors) and when I went out to check, a woman in the car then stepped out and said she was with the census bureau. I asked her, "Are you taking a GPS reading of our house?" whereupon she acted quite surprised and said "Yes; you're the first person to ask me that." I told her this whole scenario reeks of Big Brother. She more or less apologized and said it was just her job. What's interesting is that if I hadn't gone out to talk to her, I think she would have just taken the coordinates and left with no one the wiser. What is the real purpose of this new incursion into our so-called right to privacy? :frown:

 

[0uterj0in]

With respect, Martha, there's nothing secret or private about your address, or where your address lies on the Lat/Long grid.

But I don't know why they are using GPS units. Probably they're trying to automate the paper work with a mobile device and GPS helps validate their data entry.

As for census takers knocking on your door, you're free to shoo them away if you like. There's no law that requires you to participate in the census.

Here's a free site where you can find the Lat/Long of any address:

http://geocoder.us/

 

[Martha162]

I agree with you that there is nothing sacred (or private) about one's address or where it lies on the grid, but I still find it interesting that the government is taking the time to map all this out for themselves. Where I live in the rural woods of NH, I would bet dollars to donuts that some of the houses off the beaten paths in our area have never been noted before. In fact, our town is constantly trying to figure out where people are living in order to get them on the tax rolls and sometimes people are quite successful at eluding them for a time (the ones we know about).

 

[Poi]

Bingo. Mystery solved as far as I'm concerned. Capturing lost revenue.