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Obama Signs Executive Order To Kill Internet

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stonehart

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Once upon a time I may have seen this sort of thing as just paranoid conspiracy garbage... not these days.




Comments and thoughts.
 
Not a very smart move when you're running for re-election, my gut feeling is he'll be forced to back off, but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Not a very smart move when you're running for re-election, my gut feeling is he'll be forced to back off, but we'll just have to wait and see.

That is my feeling also, but hell they really are trying to kill the free web lol.. guess it is a threat
 
It's not just the free web, I'm a smoker and over here in America, in order to get around paying $60 per carton of cigarettes, lots of little tobacco shops sprang up where you could pay 20$ for the equivalent of enough tobacco to roll a carton of smokes and they had machines in the shop that would do all the rolling for you in about 8 minutes. Well, just about a week and a half ago, they made these machines illegal in all 50 states. If you're not lining their pockets with cash they have no qualms about stomping on your balls. Land of the free my ass.
 
Here in New Zealand the price of a single pack of 20 smokes is $16.30 out of which 90% is tax.
I am sick to death of that Nanny state and Big Mother government.
 
Hey folks - my alltime favourite gripe - the cost of smokes!! In the UK it's not far off £7 quid for a pack of cigs. (I embarrassed myself in US once, asking for 'twenty Marlboro' - and the cashier thought I wanted 20 packs. The laugh is perhaps we are so poor in the UK, you can buy individual packs of 10 cigarettes for half the price of a 20).

Anyway, my fellow nicotine addicts, I took the leap 18months ago onto electronic cigarettes and guess what? I am still addicted to nicotine but I take it in a cheaper, cleaner, less harmful, and way more enjoyable way now. Not once chance in hell I am going back to tobacco and the above story about rolling them in the shop just proves it's all about the tax - utter bullshit.

Word of advice for anyone interested in e-cigs - avoid getting anything that actually looks like a real cigarette - not enough power or liquid. Really do your research as the experience you get will determine if you stick with it or not. I'm 38, been smoking regularly since late teens, stopped properly for 2 years and started again. Now I really prefer the e-cig vaping experience.

Any other forum users on e-cigs too?;) (Oh and it works out cheaper that hand-rolling, I am soooooo not squandering money on tobacco taxes anymore)
 
lol thanks goggs but I have quit smoking .. I really do enjoy sitting with a good Single Malt Scotch and having a smoke at the end of an evil tour or day, but per nip it is getting cheaper to drink my whiskey than smoke.

Just wrong.
 
@Muadib - do you happen to know who was forcing thru this legislation on the rolling machines?

Tobacco lobbyist groups. I imagine they were really feeling the heat, when you can get a carton for $20 you'd have to be an idiot to pay $60, and the state and federal government of course wasn't getting their sin tax and all the other taxes on a pack of smokes so they were losing revenue as well, so they teamed up and passed a law against using a machine to roll your own cigarettes in a tobacco shop. They basically made it so that in order to run one of those machines you would have to have a manufacturers license, which immediately made it way too costly for the average mom and pop tobacco store.
 
Hey folks - my alltime favourite gripe - the cost of smokes!! In the UK it's not far off £7 quid for a pack of cigs. (I embarrassed myself in US once, asking for 'twenty Marlboro' - and the cashier thought I wanted 20 packs. The laugh is perhaps we are so poor in the UK, you can buy individual packs of 10 cigarettes for half the price of a 20).

Anyway, my fellow nicotine addicts, I took the leap 18months ago onto electronic cigarettes and guess what? I am still addicted to nicotine but I take it in a cheaper, cleaner, less harmful, and way more enjoyable way now. Not once chance in hell I am going back to tobacco and the above story about rolling them in the shop just proves it's all about the tax - utter bullshit.

Word of advice for anyone interested in e-cigs - avoid getting anything that actually looks like a real cigarette - not enough power or liquid. Really do your research as the experience you get will determine if you stick with it or not. I'm 38, been smoking regularly since late teens, stopped properly for 2 years and started again. Now I really prefer the e-cig vaping experience.

Any other forum users on e-cigs too?;) (Oh and it works out cheaper that hand-rolling, I am soooooo not squandering money on tobacco taxes anymore)

What brand of machine and liquid would you recommend? I tried one of these things in a shop awhile back and it was just way too light for me. After all this I'm definitely thinking about switching.
 
Holy shit. :eek: That's insane, no wonder you quit.

Yeah man it is an anti tobacco lobby called ASH that has forced the high tax on smoking.. the crazy thing is the real numbers of people who smoke has not fallen very much at all.

I guess I smoked because I enjoyed it but thanks to the Fun Nazis once again sticking their collective moral panic into other peoples lives I had to quit.

You know here is an idea.. If you don't like smoking, drinking, movies with an R level... DON'T WATCH THEM OR DO ANY OF THEM, and what I do in my own home is none of the governments fucking business or that of the local religious moral groups.

The fact is if you don't wasn't to be around smokers then let them have their cigar bars etc, and stop standing on my rights.

Right had my rant
 
Yeah man it is an anti tobacco lobby called ASH that has forced the high tax on smoking.. the crazy thing is the real numbers of people who smoke has not fallen very much at all.

I guess I smoked because I enjoyed it but thanks to the Fun Nazis once again sticking their collective moral panic into other peoples lives I had to quit.

You know here is an idea.. If you don't like smoking, drinking, movies with an R level... DON'T WATCH THEM OR DO ANY OF THEM, and what I do in my own home is none of the governments fucking business or that of the local religious moral groups.

The fact is if you don't wasn't to be around smokers then let them have their cigar bars etc, and stop standing on my rights.

Right had my rant

Exactly, it's just like every other aspect of society they stick their noses into, porn, drugs, homosexuality. I just can't understand it, if you don't like homos don't be one, if you don't like porn don't buy it, etc etc. Alcohol kills 2.5 million people per year on average, yet marijuana is illegal? Meanwhile all this time they spend policing the morality of the rest of society could be spent doing something constructive, like feeding the poor, sheltering the homeless or keeping priests from buggering little kids. Fuck em.
 
Up is down, right is wrong,
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
C'mon people you know how it works.

I was going to try e-cigs untill I heard about the guy who got his teeth blown out using that product. Sure, an isolated incident but there's no way I'm trying that. I'll stick with the old fashioned way thank you.
 
Up is down, right is wrong,
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
C'mon people you know how it works.

I was going to try e-cigs untill I heard about the guy who got his teeth blown out using that product. Sure, an isolated incident but there's no way I'm trying that. I'll stick with the old fashioned way thank you.

His teeth literally got blown out of his mouth? Where can I find this story?
 
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