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This is a good topic for you to bring up here, I was thinking of doing same.

Back in the late '70s, me and a friend, were experiencing Ufo sightings that were part of a significant flap wave, called The Great Lakes Ufo Wave. For --some-- reason, which I cannot recall why, her and I figured it would be a good idea to haul out the ol' OUIJA board. An apparent Being came through, with a strong personality and way of speaking. He liked to repeatedly insist to us, "My planet is Mars, my planet is Mars!" He was very preachy, like for example, "You know not that of which you do!"
One day, I was at my friends house. We were in here living room looking out her bay window, because two 'Men In Black' were walking by, looking back in at us. They looked like average white guys, EXCEPT they were thin, wore all black suits, their black ties were a black string, and their 'hair' was all black and looked like you took a man's wig and lightly set it on your head. It sorta looked like a hat. Maybe they were hats. They both looke alike. We ran out the front door to meet and speak with them and..............there was nothing no/one there.
While all this stuff was going on, my sister told me that she was attacked by a demon in the basement of the family home, where I lived at that time, with parents and siblings.
 
Well that's what you get for messing around with a Ouija board! Haven't you heard Art Bell warning us all about that? tisk tisk!
 
tyder001 said:
As somebody from "Southern Appalachia" and the Sand Mountain area I will take a look at it. I'll search Kindle when I get home tonight. Sounds interesting.
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Guys; I live on Sand Mountain, the west end, near civilization....They really do handle snakes and drink poisons...But Cthulu forbids me to attend their services....:)

Dale in AL
 
Yep! I'm gonna have to check out that book. :-) I miss those Sand Mountain "maters." They just don't grow em like that down here in the "flatlands" of the state. :-) Which reminds me. I went on down to Gulf Breeze, Florida a couple of years ago. What ever happened to that story? I remember a book "Gulf Breeze Sightings" It had some "imo" fake pics in it and some wild stories. The stories were interesting but I just couldn't buy the pictures I saw.
 
tyder001 said:
... I went on down to Gulf Breeze, Florida a couple of years ago. What ever happened to that story? I remember a book "Gulf Breeze Sightings" It had some "imo" fake pics in it and some wild stories. The stories were interesting but I just couldn't buy the pictures I saw.
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Randle dismissed that case as fake.
 
Martina said:
Well that's what you get for messing around with a Ouija board! Haven't you heard Art Bell warning us all about that? tisk tisk!
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Art Bell says ---to this very day--- that he STILL will not describe his experience with a OUIJA from decades ago. This leaves me scratching my noggin, because it CAN'T POSSIBLY be weirder than the craziest stuff to 'grace' Coast. And I have heard some downright unbelievable stuff on there. Which says alot, cuz of my own unbelievable (but TRUE) paranormal events.
 
saucerwench said:
Art Bell says ---to this very day--- that he STILL will not describe his experience with a OUIJA from decades ago. This leaves me scratching my noggin, because it CAN'T POSSIBLY be weirder than the craziest stuff to 'grace' Coast. And I have heard some downright unbelievable stuff on there. Which says alot, cuz of my own unbelievable (but TRUE) paranormal events.
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He's basically a showman. He says lots of things, but I wouldn't take it seriously.
 
I heard the statement Sauncerwence is talking about and she is right. He does indeed have a 'knack" for radio and for hosting a show. But, he was (imo) relating something that actually happened to him. I know snarky "Coast bashing" is a fun sport here. But, back in the day there was none better and it was a much better show then than it is now. Had some kooks for sure but also some good fun stuff. Now, George Noory? I still wonder what the "network" or whoever owns the show wuz and iz thankin! :-)
 
I wonder that too. Noory often talks to us like we are a bunch of little kids at a Howdy Doody show. (Maybe we are a bunch of big kids listening to just merely a Doody show!)
 
Yes he did. I always found that odd. Cause I respect Mccabee but the pictures I saw in the book I had looked bogus. I wish I had kept my copy now.
 
trainedobserver said:
Bruce Maccabee vouched for it.
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Yeah and I've heard rumors that he was paid tens of thousands of dollars to sign off on the case. One version of the story says 10K, another version 30K. Shades of LMH and the Brazil abduction fiasco.
btw: Ray Stanford did an excellent job debunking the photos in a paper he wrote about the case...
 
Christopher O'Brien said:
Yeah and I've heard rumors that he was paid tens of thousands of dollars to sign off on the case. One version of the story says 10K, another version 30K. Shades of LMH and the Brazil abduction fiasco.
btw: Ray Stanford did an excellent job debunking the photos in a paper he wrote about the case...
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Thanks for the info on Bruce, interesting!
 
trainedobserver said:
Info? Didn't he say it was a rumor?
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For me the receiver It's information how accurate that information is another matter. Hopefully Chris will expand on his post, but if that is true information Bruce credibility is shot in my opinion.

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Trajanus said:
Randle may be right about that one but he still strikes many UFOlogists as being too conservative or skeptical at times.
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Randle is skeptical and rightly so, it a pity he doesn't apply that critical thinking to his research into Roswell.
 
I think Maccabee has made some mistakes and there's hardly a researcher/investigator in the field who hasn't. He endorsed a Canadian UFO landing case as the 'best evidence' he'd seen. It turned out to be some guys with flashing disco lights on the back of their truck in an intentional hoax. He's also drawn flack for being a 'UFO consultant' for the CIA over the years.

Regarding the Gulf Breeze photos, Ed Walters provided images on demand. At some point iirc, he drew skepticism because none of his images provided context in the shape of buildings etc. Within a week of this criticism (in Maccabee's own words), Walters' turned up with the UFO images against an urban skyline and coastal horizon. Lucky coincidence? Bruce checked out the variety of cameras used by Walters and found a number of ways Walters could have faked them. On top of that, claims were made that he'd used models for the images and a couple of guys claimed to have helped him.

I'm going off recall here, one of Walters' cameras had a twin lens set-up that allowed an analyst to get some notion of focal point and distance based on the difference between each of the stereoscopic images. It was these images that caused Maccabee to consider them as potentially authentic. By analysing the images taken with this camera, he couldn't see how Walters could fake them.

In summary, Walters' story and majority of images were fakeable and unconvincing. The few that were taken with the stereoscopic (iirc) camera left a shadow of possibility that Walters' Gulf Breeze images could have been genuine. It was because of these that Bruce Maccabee supported the case.
 
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