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Goggs Mackay said:
Look, enough is enough. This is utter rubbish that makes no sense whatsoever. Do you even realise that there is no logic to be found in any of that. You don't explain what you are talking about - it's like a crypto key is needed to unlock anything that even reads sensibly. If you want to post extreme esoteric stuff, by all means start a thread of your own but stop spamming threads in which everyone else is contributing by writing in understandable English. Please take this as a polite warning.

We are loathe to ban people here who aren't hurting anyone, but at the same time, we delete spam posts and vile trolling. Your post makes as much sense as random keyboard typing.
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The posting is about mysteries, and mystery relates to causes of phenomena. Phenomena changes the human mind thinking concepts and how it interacts with information as a review.

The value given to a mystery relates to the human beings who caused mysteries and phenomena....scientific conversion of natural evolution.

Therefore when you review information and then later cannot understand the information as a format then obviously the information has changed.

The human male who changes the conditions of natural evolution by conversion then says he no longer understands old information or information is now a mystery....only because he changed it.

As the UFO is a condition involved in the mystery, the UFO condition currently is changing and has changed, the scientist is still considering information that is a mystery, called unknown by his conscious awareness and is unidentified.

The old information of phenomena was called "seeing" or the See, because it was witnessed.

Our brother gave everything a value as a human being, with a description. The meaning of mystery comes from the word "myein", to shut the eyes which is why the mystery states that the "seeing or witnessing value" of consciousness or awareness had changed and the phenomena condition of the after effect then became a mystery.

Our brother, the scientist/occultist thinks that everything remains in the same status as when he decided to change the status, which is why life is attacked by the phenomena he causes. The argument and forum discussions are about the attack on life as the mystery itself, for the cause of the mystery and also the discussions of phenomena relate to concepts and ideas involving sciences.
 
I recently posted about an odd dimming effect we experienced while sitting in my living room one evening. I still haven't figured that one out. Another odd lighting effect happened yesterday. I was restless until around 4:30 am when it occurred to me that I'd left the wi-fi on. Whether my EM hypersensitivity is psychosomatic or not is irrelevant because either way it bothers me, so I decided to make the trek to the basement to turn it off. When I got up I noticed that I could see quite well without turning on the lights. Considering there was almost no moon at all, I normally wouldn't be able to see much of anything, but there was plenty enough light filtering in to see my way around quite clearly.

The only place the light could have been coming from was outside, so I went to have a look out the window, and the north-eastern sky toward city center was all aglow. The sun wasn't due to rise for about another 4 hours, but it was like it was almost dawn. I don't know why it was so bright, but I attributed it to light reflected off the overcast city center and main roads in that direction. It's a mundane explanation, but I've never seen it so bright before. I didn't even have to turn the basement light on. I could see my way down and around just fine, and after turning the Wi-Fi off I also slept just fine.
 
ufology said:
Another odd lighting effect happened yesterday. I was restless until around 4:30 am when it occurred to me that I'd left the wi-fi on. Whether my EM hypersensitivity is psychosomatic or not is irrelevant because either way it bothers me, so I decided to make the trek to the basement to turn it off. When I got up I noticed that I could see quite well without turning on the lights. Considering there was almost no moon at all, I normally wouldn't be able to see much of anything, but there was plenty enough light filtering in to see my way around quite clearly.
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Could it possibly have been the Northern Lights do you think, coming from a northerly direction? I remember as a kid growing up in the north of England, a handful of times I saw the lights very low on the northern horizon as a dirty green-brown general glow (not to be confused with yellow sodium vapour street lighting reflected off cloud). Just as a caveat to that, England is usually too far south to experience the lights and you will only get anything if solar activity is particularly high. The very few times I saw anything was nothing like the spectacular shots you see taken in Norway or northern Canada. (Where I'm from in the UK is pretty much at the same latitude as Edmonton over your side of the pond.)
 
ufology said:
I recently posted about an odd dimming effect we experienced while sitting in my living room one evening. I still haven't figured that one out. Another odd lighting effect happened yesterday. I was restless until around 4:30 am when it occurred to me that I'd left the wi-fi on. Whether my EM hypersensitivity is psychosomatic or not is irrelevant because either way it bothers me, so I decided to make the trek to the basement to turn it off. When I got up I noticed that I could see quite well without turning on the lights. Considering there was almost no moon at all, I normally wouldn't be able to see much of anything, but there was plenty enough light filtering in to see my way around quite clearly.

The only place the light could have been coming from was outside, so I went to have a look out the window, and the north-eastern sky toward city center was all aglow. The sun wasn't due to rise for about another 4 hours, but it was like it was almost dawn. I don't know why it was so bright, but I attributed it to light reflected off the overcast city center and main roads in that direction. It's a mundane explanation, but I've never seen it so bright before. I didn't even have to turn the basement light on. I could see my way down and around just fine, and after turning the Wi-Fi off I also slept just fine.
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I've seen that in Calgary before. We get this weird cloud thing that hangs right over downtown and lights the whole city up.
Maybe that was it?

Just checked my outdoor cam, it shows nothing. But it might not, given the infrared comes on at night. Besides, it points south away from downtown.

I'm more curious why you think you're sensitive to wi-fi. TBH, I've always found that odd (not taking a shot at you).
 
Standanista said:
Could it possibly have been the Northern Lights do you think, coming from a northerly direction? I remember as a kid growing up in the north of England, a handful of times I saw the lights very low on the northern horizon as a dirty green-brown general glow (not to be confused with yellow sodium vapour street lighting reflected off cloud). Just as a caveat to that, England is usually too far south to experience the lights and you will only get anything if solar activity is particularly high. The very few times I saw anything was nothing like the spectacular shots you see taken in Norway or northern Canada. (Where I'm from in the UK is pretty much at the same latitude as Edmonton over your side of the pond.)
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It's super rare our northern lights are that bright. I was camping in northern alberta in the wintertime, when I saw them cover the sky.

It was pretty cool -- it was so quiet you could hear them wooshing. And you could just lay back in the snow and watch.

But I still don't think they would 'shine into' your windows, and I've never seen them like that as far south as we are.
 
marduk said:
Possible? Ever done a wi-fi scan?
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The last time I checked was a while back and I got back one very weak signal. I have another neighbor that is at least 200 feet away, if not more, so I'm thinking that the weak signal was from the nearer neighbor, but I don't know the range of Wifi. So maybe, possible should be "a good chance".
 
Sorry, I'm prying but I'm curious. Why do you guys think it disrupts your sleep?

There have been multiple double blind studies showing that even people who say they're extremely sensitive to wi-fi can't tell when it's on, and when it's not.

(I get that you said it may be psychosomatic and don't care)
 
We didn't do a systematic study. Our sleep quality improved when we turned it off, particularly for my wife who is more sensitive to these things than me, but we didn't turn it back on and do comparisons. It's possible it was something else as well, but we basically felt more relaxed and weren't woken up as much in the middle of the night.
 
marduk said:
Sorry, I'm prying but I'm curious. Why do you guys think it disrupts your sleep?

There have been multiple double blind studies showing that even people who say they're extremely sensitive to wi-fi can't tell when it's on, and when it's not.

(I get that you said it may be psychosomatic and don't care)
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I have heard anecdotes from people who have claimed to be able to tell whether a wireless router is turned on or off when tested by their doctor. I heard a neurosurgeon on a medical talk-radio show tell how his main job is pulling tumors out of the side of people's heads that they use their cell phones on. The WHO reversed its decision that EM from wireless devices is definitely safe. More than just me tends to find improved sleep when wireless devices are turned off at night.

One report I came across showed the difference between brain scans with wi-fi on and off. They indicated that although we don't visually perceive wi-fi, the brain interprets the radiation the same as daylight, and that's what causes sleeplessness. It's like trying to sleep with a light on, which isn't how the brain is used to regulating our sleep-wake cycles. So it's not necessarily the case that one can sense it immediately or that the Wi-Fi is always causing damage in a direct way, but quality of life still seems to be affected.
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ufology said:
I have heard anecdotes from people who have claimed to be able to tell whether a wireless router is turned on or off when tested by their doctor. I heard a neurosurgeon on a medical talk-radio show tell how his main job is pulling tumors out of the side of people's heads that they use their cell phones on. The WHO reversed its decision that EM from wireless devices is definitely safe. More than just me tends to find improved sleep when wireless devices are turned off at night.

One report I came across showed the difference between brain scans with wi-fi on and off. They indicated that although we don't visually perceive wi-fi, the brain interprets the radiation the same as daylight, and that's what causes sleeplessness. It's like trying to sleep with a light on, which isn't how the brain is used to regulating our sleep-wake cycles. So it's not necessarily the case that one can sense it immediately or that the Wi-Fi is always causing damage in a direct way, but quality of life still seems to be affected.

On a related note. Here's an interesting documentary on smart meters


For those who like charts and graphs there's Some particularly interesting stats at around 37:00 mins​


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I'll never give anyone a hard time for something like this. I have a food sensitivity to monosodium glutamate, despite the studies that claim this is safe. Even when ingesting something I think may be safe, if it has MSG the migraines start around 18 to 24 hours later. Ironic, because most of the studies I've seen only watch for reactions for 4 or 5 hours after ingestion of MSG. If I don't ingest MSG, I don't get migraines.
 
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