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Pyramid like Anomaly On Mars

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@Constance I have also discovered something you may find useful, a much easier way to include your pictures.

#1 Find the image online you want to add to your paracast post. (e.g go to your photobucket page).

# 2 Right click on the image and choose "copy image"

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# 3 Go to relavent paracast post and right click and choose "paste" (your image will be pasted at the Cursor)


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Day 2.. professor's students TA's I went I showed the pics every one said..rocks constance..I WANT to be wrong but alas..a rock is a rock..

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. . . I am convinced we need to get our own house in order before we go poking around the galaxy.

I think it more likely that man will take "life" off planet rather than it being there already, and that could go very badly wrong very quickly
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they couldn't even drill lake Vostok without contaminating it here on Earth.

I could not agree more. If life has evolved and survived on Mars we should leave Mars alone. It is not our property to take or to exploit. I fear the latter (exploitation of minerals on Mars) is the underlying intent of the MIC that, with corporatists in general, likely drives a great deal of our exploration of Mars.
 
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@Constance I have also discovered something you may find useful, a much easier way to include your pictures.

#1 Find the image online you want to add to your paracast post. (e.g go to your photobucket page).

# 2 Right click on the image and choose "copy image"

#1.png

Thank you very much for this help as well, Han. You are always so informative and helpful, and I appreciate it greatly. :)
 
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Day 2.. professor's students TA's I went I showed the pics every one said..rocks constance..I WANT to be wrong but alas..a rock is a rock..

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Many others have seen, as I do, an obviously intentional carving [or, remotely possible: a fossilized lizard].

ps: I might question this photograph if it were the only likeness of a biological species that has turned up in Mars rover photographs. But it's one of thousands.
 
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Thank you very much for this help as well, Han. You are always so informative and helpful, and I appreciate it greatly. :)

I have a question:

Do you keep a record of all of the precise coordinates of each interesting image?
There are many reasons I think it would be a good idea, these mainly are:

#1 a new mission could be launched in the future with even better equipment and getting comparison pictures would great, and

#2 it would be possible for other people to use one of your finds to search around its specific area using the imagery available now.
 
I could not agree more. If life has evolved and survived on Mars we should leave Mars alone. It is not our property to take or to exploit. I fear the latter (exploitation of minerals on Mars) is the underlying intent of the MIC that, with corporatists in general, likely drives a great deal of our exploration of Mars.

Very good point I hadn't factored in what would happen if there was some form of "life" on Mars, and we introduced some from Earth, the result could be catastrophic for either "world".

I have a very limited knowledge of geology, but I understand that Mars has gone through many of the same natural processes as Earth, for example volcanism, which I believe can form things like Diamonds or precious metals such as gold. It also apparently had liquid water so these precious resources could be deposited in a similar way to Earth?


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This to my untrained eye looks like a river or glacier cutting, and who wouldn't want a chance to split some of those "slates" in the foreground?

Fascinating!
 
Very good point I hadn't factored in what would happen if there was some form of "life" on Mars, and we introduced some from Earth, the result could be catastrophic for either "world".

Yes it could. In the last year JPL researchers have warned about the potentiality of such damage to humans from some substance or chemical process, the identity/name of which I've forgotten. Also, many Mars image researchers agree that there appear to be several types of extant humanoids there (some looking very much like us; some looking like grays but white in color). They are seen congregating on the surface at some sites in Gale Crater in mid-day and very often seem to be looking toward or at the rover. They are estimated to be somewhat smaller than us [some considerably smaller] and are often accompanied by children. Notably, in these sites in Gale Crater, there are visible openings/entrances either into a hillside or into the underground. Many such entrances are decorated and/or have partial coverings over them. Also interesting, the humanoids that look like us include both black and white 'races'. Time will tell.

I have a very limited knowledge of geology, but I understand that Mars has gone through many of the same natural processes as Earth, for example volcanism, which I believe can form things like Diamonds or precious metals such as gold. It also apparently had liquid water so these precious resources could be deposited in a similar way to Earth.

Mars still has liquid water flowing seasonally when the ice caps melt, and clear evidence of groundwater near the surface {areas where the sand is darkened in apparent downhill 'flows'}. Some of the official JPL researchers are studying samples taken up and analyzed by Curiosity's "science lab" that suggest processes supporting microbial life. The colors of rocks on Mars indicate to JPL geologists the kinds of minerals that predominate in various areas.


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This to my untrained eye looks like a river or glacier cutting, and who wouldn't want a chance to split some of those "slates" in the foreground?

The image above might show purely geological processes, but to my eyes it suggests the remainders of intentionally produced walls, barriers, land-engineering for some purpose, perhaps for retention of water [note that some water is still pooled in a few places], or perhaps even for agricultural purposes [growing rice?]. There are many Mars panoramas that show such large geometrically engineered alterations of the surface, and also some images that can only be interpreted as efforts at some point to dig into the surface, perhaps to uncover structures long buried or to reach quantities of groundwater beneath the surface. I'll try to relocate and post some of those images if you are interested in seeing them.
 
I have a question:


Do you keep a record of all of the precise coordinates of each interesting image?

There are many reasons I think it would be a good idea, these mainly are:


#1 a new mission could be launched in the future with even better equipment and getting comparison pictures would great, and


#2 it would be possible for other people to use one of your finds to search around its specific area using the imagery available now.


First let me say that I am still an amateur in capturing and reproducing anomalies visible in the Mars photo imagery. I've been following the subject for only about 14 months and searching out, cropping, and enhancing specific anomalies for a year. Most of the data I study is that which appears in the searchable gigapans produced from releases of JPL's panoramic rover photographs. I linked above to a long list of 'PDS gigapans' based on JPL's later-released versions of these panoramas that provide improved visual precision over the originally released raw images. Until those PDS images are available, skilled image researchers work from the raw data, before two 'takes' from whatever rover camera has been used (there are 15 or so on Curiosity) are superimposed to sharpen the raw image. The PDS images are the best data to use, but it is often many months before they are produced and released. In the meantime image researchers work with raw data released in single batches that are not complete and not searchable until the total data is released as a panorama and made searchable in gigapans produced by private researchers such as Neville Thompson and Keith Laney. Image researchers also work with satellite imagery obtained by several JPL satellites (and also an ESA satellite) orbiting Mars. Areas of interest photographed by the rovers are often re-imaged from one of these satellites. Below is an interesting anomaly obtained from one of those satellite images (referred to as PIAs) by Neville Thompson.

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The above anomaly was discovered and cropped from this source: HiRISE | Swirls of Rock in Candor Chasma (PSP_001984_1735)
{note: see the JPL notes at that link concerning water and geologic processes at this site}

I have not always attached the SOL identification or gigapan link to the individual cropped images I’ve worked with and stored in photobucket (though I did with the lizard anomaly I linked here [before you and @marduk showed the image]. Right after my first link to that one I posted a link to the gigapan from which it was cropped. By searching that gigapan you can get a better idea of what image researchers have to work with in cropping out and enhancing objects showing up in the raw data.


There is an enormous amount of data available from panoramic photographs obtained by the three rovers – Spirit, Opportunity, and Curiosity – on Mars. Spirit, the first one, became inoperational at a point some years ago, but Curiosity is still moving around on the surface and sending photographic data after about six years.on Mars. Curiosity has been doing so for about the last three years. New imagery is obtained and released by Curiosity and Opportunity continually. No one person could study all of it, but there are by now numerous researchers at work analyzing the rover imagery, and many, many cropped and enhanced portions of these panoramic images are posted every day on the internet and especially by participants in a dozen or more groups active on facebook.


Curiosity has been at work in Gale Crater since it was landed there 3 years ago. Gale Crater [93 miles across] was selected as a site by NASA/JPL because it was known to have contained a deep lake and a two-mile-high mountain {Mt. Sharp} in its center. Curiosity has been traveling up that mountain for two years now, sending back panoramic images of many different kinds of terrain and also closeup images of stones, pebbles, etc., taken by its ‘ChemCam’, which is able to analyze various minerals in scooped-up materials drawn out of holes generated by a laser on the rover.


Finally, in my own research I’ve worked with both cropped areas from the gigapans or cropped images others have posted that I’ve attempted to make more visible by increasing the light, contrast, and hues latent in the images as released in the gigapans and sometimes in the very dark, flat, single raw images released before the panoramic take is released as a whole. The latter require far better imaging software than I have access to, but I’m sometimes able to enhance the visibility of the objects in the available data. When I post these in the FB forums I always identify the SOL data itself and the gigapan from which I’ve taken the cropped image, but I haven’t generally stored that information in transposing an enhanced image from my Microsoft image gallery to photobucket. It’s always possible however to track down that source by consulting with one of the seasoned experts posting Mars images in the FB forums over many years now.


As for getting JPL to send a rover back to a previously visited area to re-photograph it, that’s most unlikely (unless one or more of JPL’s own image analysts were to request it). It has happened in one or two cases I know of that a rover did pass by a particular area a second time in navigating the difficult terrain on Mr. Sharp and reimaged some objects from a different camera or camera angle. In one of these cases, it was clear that some objects laid out on a rock ledge had disappeared and been replaced within a matter of days between the two employments of the rover cameras.
 
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Further sites for exploration by the next JPL rover are now being evaluated by NASA scientists. Information about those sites should be available on the internet. I have read some information about these potential sites earlier this year, but do not have a link.
 
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Europe's ExoMars Rover Will Land in 1 of These 2 Spots on Mars in 2021
By Mike Wall, Space.com Senior Writer | March 28, 2017 03:25pm ET

"Mission managers have narrowed the landing-site candidates for the ExoMars 2020 rover down to two finalists, European Space Agency (ESA) officials announced today (March 28).

The life-hunting rover and its accompanying stationary platform will touch down at either Oxia Planum or Mawrth Vallis, two locations in Mars' northern hemisphere that harbor evidence of long-ago liquid water activity.

Neither site has been visited by a robotic explorer to date, though Mawrth Vallis was once a candidate for NASA's Mars rover Curiosity. (NASA ended up selecting the huge Gale Crater, inside which Curiosity landed in August 2012). . . . ."

[Photos: Europe's ExoMars Missions to Mars in Pictures]

Europe's ExoMars Rover Will Land in 1 of These 2 Spots on Mars in 2021
 
Maybe this what Han getting at ?
Lichens extreme enviroments

Other un discovered planets is very plausible humanity finds in following years.

More information about lichens in this LiveScience article:

What Are Lichens?

Lichens on Mars might provide a source of nutrition for a variety of surviving species. It's also been theorized that mushrooms might also be cultivated in the lava tubes and cave entrances on Mars.
 
The formations of the rocks on Mars are created the same as on Earth or not? Is there Mass Glaciers under Mars surface!!! Also until we have humans on Mars or mass space drones. Yes science can get experimental results back more open access and the amounts frozen: water contained within the Planet is still ongoing debate (they know).

Life in Extreme Environments

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/04/scienceshot-animals-live-without-oxygen

Life forms can develop in harsh environments has seen in Australian Queensland desert and underground rivers crabs
Inland Freshwater Crab - Queensland Museum

Maybe other lifeforms can have different evolutionary patterns which odds on very plausible !
 
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Changes nothing it is a rock.. just a red colored rock nothing more..

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Agreed. Without any context or further examination it would appear just to be a "rock".

However with the following information, I believe that it is actually a very special rock, with big implications about the origins of life here on Earth and possibly even on Mars:

The "rock" is located here on Earth in Canada in the Nuvvuagittuq Supracrustal Belt (near Quebec).

The scientists who discovered it believe that it contains "Microfossils" that lived around four Billion years ago (US billions) 4,000,000,000 years ago.

This date implies that life was present much earlier than previously thought and not long (relatively speaking) after the Earth (and Mars) were formed and at a time when Mars had "lakes" of liquid water.



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“Therefore, we expect to find evidence for past life on Mars 4,000 million years ago, or if not, Earth may have been a special exception.”*


4,000,000,000 years is a lot of time, it is almost beyond imagination to conceptualise the numbers involved, but if we take Humans as an example, we have been around for about two seconds, and in those two seconds we have got off the planet.

I am personally not convinced of any kind of "civilization" past or present on Mars but am finding it increasingly difficult to argue the case for life on Earth being "unique".


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*Oldest fossil ever discovered that provides strongest evidence yet of life outside our planet

World's oldest fossils found in Canada, say scientists

Earliest evidence of life on Earth 'found' - BBC News

Scientists discover world's most ancient fossils

World's oldest microfossils found, researchers claim - CNN.com

Oldest-ever fossils show life existed on Earth at its infancy - study




 
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