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Ryan Skinner: Tales of the Skinwalker: Stories from Skinwalker Ranch

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Your obviously fishing at this point for a reaction. Your opinion is your own, you've stated it. Since in essence you are calling me a liar, I assume you are also calling the majority of scientists and ex police personnel on the NIDS/BAASS staff who had close encounters documented in Hunt for the Skinwalker liars, your calling the previous owners Terry and Gwen Sherman lairs, your calling all the neighbors who experienced similar encounters liars, your calling the eye witness who stood right next to me as the wolf transformed, Ryan Burns, a liar, and the list goes on and on. I do what I do at great risk, financially this is a absolute money pit, you have no idea the costs and logistics involved in traveling from Wisconsin to Utah 3 times a year to spend a week or two either camped in the desert, alternating with a hotel, and the cost of the assortment of gear needed for surveillance. I do so at great personal risk as what I am doing is ...well illegal, if caught I would likely be beat up, jailed, and fined (and I've had some very verrrry close calls) Not to mention I'm attempting to document an intelligence which we know very little about, what is known is that it is hostile and has killed in the past. Finally I do so at great risk to my character. I am a local well known in my hometown, and of course have friends and family. Do you have any idea how humiliating it is to stand on a national platform and tell the listening audience that I saw what I saw??? Its devastating and takes great courage. I'm constantly teased for it, yet I shrug it off because it really did happen exactly as I portrayed it. Hell the majority of Skinwalker ranch stories involve a wolf standing on two feet ! My experience is stale in comparison to the majority of Skinwalker Ranch encounters portrayed. Beyond this statement I will not respond to your further attempts to troll. I only am here to answer questions about what I know regarding the ranch. I encourage others to have an experience hopefully more fantastic than my own. I am not special in that regard, I am special because I got out of that arm chair, made both the financial, and time commitment, as a result I got to experience the stories one can only read about.
 
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mac said:
Then he's a liar according to you because, according to you, he's one or the other, let me help you out,

"Here's the thing Ryan - I'll be blunt. You're making up a lot of this stuff to make it sound more interesting than it really is. I'm sure you've seen some strange stuff, that's not a stretch - lights in the sky and whatnot - but damn wolf orbs? I find that hard to believe.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to listening to the episode, because even though I think you may be stretching the truth, you have a pretty great enthusiasm for this stuff, and I enjoy hearing that."

Really, attempting to run away from yourself is fruitless. Now, penalize yourself with a TO for using crude genitalia terms on a fellow member. :(
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I was calling him out on possibly stretching the truth. However, Ryan and I discussed this in private and we've come to an understanding and clarified a few things.

Mac, we don't see things the same way, and that's totally cool. Just because one doesn't share your view on stuff does not make them a monster.

Also, if you can say it on TV, I don't consider it that bad. I swear a lot so naughty words don't bother me.
 
Dude, I'm not sure what you're trying to do - Ryan and I have clarified our thoughts on the matter. I was calling him out for possibly making stuff up, but having discussed it with him, I see where he was coming from. That's it.
 
"I don't do this to "make a buck" but your welcome to your opinion."

You might not make a buck, but that doesn't mean you aren't trying to make a buck, which is why (at least I suspect) the beginning of your tagline here starts with "to purchase my book...."

Anyway, I re-read my first post and it was a little harsh and I apologize for that.
 
You do realize when you self publish, as I have, there is no publisher to hand me a big check once I turn in my work. Self publishing means that I have I to pay for all of the artwork, the editing, the rights to photos and artwork, and marketing. Shame on me for trying to recoup my personal financial losses to bring this material to you the end reader for your entertainment (or enlightenment).

I was always perplexed by that argument, that I should somehow be perceived as less credible or to have a "hidden agenda" simply by presenting my research in a organized format and to charge for my costs and time.
 
Ryan, what have you found out from the shermans
about the goings on at the ranch that we don't know about. Is there anything that you can talk about?
 
At the end of the day, IMHO, the most fascinating & credible material about Skinwalker comes from Christopher O'Brien's description of his initial listening to the stories and experiences that took place there as the first investigator on the scene. Everything else is wrapped up in a non-disclosure agreement, limited reports and lots of obfuscation, sensationalism, speculation and outsider seeking & investigation.
 
Here's what's frustrating and makes me more jaded; 3 cases that I hear about where people supposedly have the "end all" proof/footage/evidence (skinwalker, Marley woods, Ray Stanfords UFOs) of extraordinary events/UFOs - but mysteriously nobody's allowed to see any of it. To me, this isn't logical. If I had footage of a structured UFO, or specks of dust turning into a coyote, I would be going through whatever means necessary to see that the world sees it. If I filmed a structured UFO or monsters on a ranch - the minute I clicked "stop recording" I would be figuring out how to get it to CNN. Not sit on it for the next 10 years but yet proclaim that I have the hardest of hard evidence but just choose to not share it with anyone.

By the way, I've been keeping an archive of videos and photos that show me interacting with a family of Sasquatch. To date, over the last 7 years, I've collected over 1200 up close digital photos and over 375 hours of up close video. I can't disclose where the Sasquatch live nor can I provide any of the photos or videos. So please don't ask. But it's the most amazing thing to see & witness & proves that they exist.
 
Creepy_Green_Light said:
Ray Stanfords UFOs) of extraordinary events/UFOs - but mysteriously nobody's allowed to see any of it. If I filmed a structured UFO or monsters on a ranch - the minute I clicked "stop recording" I would be figuring out how to get it to CNN. Not sit on it for the next 10 years but yet proclaim that I have the hardest of hard evidence but just choose to not share it with anyone...
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You're starting to sound like several other whinny broken records around here. Plenty of people have seen Ray's work, one of the latest being Ben Moss from MD MUFON who has spent many days reviewing Ray's analytical work on his films and stills. He has also presented short versions of his presentation to scientists at Goddard Space Flight Center and he presented an earlier version to 50 people in Sedona, AZ back in 2007. The4re is no "wow, gee-wiz" factor, it's hard optical science. These objects do not look like Billy Meir Beamships or Adamski hoaxes. In fact, they aren't by literal definition "flying saucers:" some of them are hexagonal in shape, others triangular, or delta-shaped. The largest are thin pencil-shaped objects.
 
Steve-C. said:
Ryan, what have you found out from the shermans
about the goings on at the ranch that we don't know about. Is there anything that you can talk about?
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the majority of what I learned from the locals is shared in the books NO Trespassing and new accounts in The UFO Farm. what would you like to know? Happy to share what I know here on the forum anytime.
 
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Creepy_Green_Light said:
Here's what's frustrating and makes me more jaded; 3 cases that I hear about where people supposedly have the "end all" proof/footage/evidence (skinwalker, Marley woods, Ray Stanfords UFOs) of extraordinary events/UFOs - but mysteriously nobody's allowed to see any of it. To me, this isn't logical. If I had footage of a structured UFO, or specks of dust turning into a coyote, I would be going through whatever means necessary to see that the world sees it.
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the video I did manage to take. Nothing hidden/censored, but unless you where there when these were taken, and knew the context behind the videos, nothing all that spectacular.

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Christopher O'Brien said:
You're starting to sound like several other whinny broken records around here. Plenty of people have seen Ray's work, one of the latest being Ben Moss from MD MUFON who has spent many days reviewing Ray's analytical work on his films and stills. He has also presented short versions of his presentation to scientists at Goddard Space Flight Center and he presented an earlier version to 50 people in Sedona, AZ back in 2007. The4re is no "wow, gee-wiz" factor, it's hard optical science. These objects do not look like Billy Meir Beamships or Adamski hoaxes. In fact, they aren't by literal definition "flying saucers:" some of them are hexagonal in shape, others triangular, or delta-shaped. The largest are thin pencil-shaped objects.
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The intent isn't to sound whiney. I have no insider links and therefore am not privy to Stanfords videos/photos. You know how you are frustrated & burnt out on the Roswell slides? I'm frustrated in the same type of way with the 3 cases I mentioned earlier. In fact, I don't think I've mentioned Rays work in months and I don't think I've ever mentioned Skinwalker or Marley Woods. So please don't lump me in with the other "broken records", whomever they are.

Even if I was bitching about these 3 cases on the reg, I think it'd be warranted. There's enough books, articles, blogs, videos, doc's about these subjects and the amazing testimony from eyewitnesses. But is there anything Joe Blow can view and have the reaction of "holy F! Did I just see that? Omg, I have to show others!" If that exists (and I'm not saying it doesn't), I'd love to see it. Anybody would be frustrated or irritated Chris if this following scenario occurred; over the course of 10 years I write three books and make two documentaries about a lake monster that lives in my local lake. You've heard all the stories, read all the articles, have seen all the interviews . But you yourself still can't see a video that conclusively shows the monster I speak of. Nor are you allowed into the area of the lake yourself. The few videos you have seen shows smudges, blurs, etc. and not the "holy F" piece you are Hoping for. The piece that can't be refuted. I mean, cmon. Your avg person is eventually going to roll there eyes when they see the subject of my lake monster show up, untilI can provide that one, irrefutable piece of evidence. And they're eventually going to get tired or hearing my stories. They will think "SHOW ME."

I'm not saying any of these 3 cases are total BS. Esp Rays case. I've been listening to the Paracast long enough to trust and respect what you say, so I believe it. I'm just saying it'd be nice for regular folk like myself to see the irrefutable footage regarding any of these cases.
 
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