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Anyone seen "Dark City"? I just got done watching it and its a superb fiction movie, brilliant effects and storyline. I highly recommend it.

Yesterday I watched "The Core" that was educational after filtering out the obvious hollywood stuff I learned about the geology of the inner earth a bit.
 
I can't sit through Dark City. I fell asleep trying on more than one occasion. I watched Rollerball (the real one with James Caan) again recently. It is brilliant. I also rewatched They Live. It is awesomely paranoid.
 
Lavarat said:
Anyone seen "Dark City"? I just got done watching it and its a superb fiction movie, brilliant effects and storyline. I highly recommend it.

Yesterday I watched "The Core" that was educational after filtering out the obvious hollywood stuff I learned about the geology of the inner earth a bit.

Wow, this taught you about geology?!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, even without Hollywood there is little in the way of geology in this film. As a geologist and teacher of geology, I wish I could condemn this film based on the irrational questions derived from it I received periodically.
 
Seth said:
Wow, this taught you about geology?!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, even without Hollywood there is little in the way of geology in this film. As a geologist and teacher of geology, I wish I could condemn this film based on the irrational questions derived from it I received periodically.

Ah, I'm interested in geology but I'm only an amateur. Do you subscribe to the standard model of the earth's interior? If so, what are your opinions on deep quakes?
 
I watched "I am Will Smith" the other day....pretty average. I also saw "28 (Years, months),Weeks Later, as well , also very average especially since the "Dawn of the Dead" series did much the same thing as both the former.
The Pommy flick "Shaun of the Dead" was far superior & funnier.
 
Personally, I love Dark City, for more than one reason.

- Jennifer Connelly (who, BTW, is going to be in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still). I'd be happy watching her pick her nose.

- Directed by the same fellow who did The Crow, one of my cult fave films.

- Weird, dark feel to it. Not easy to watch.

- Good music.

- And they even got an "up ending" out of the darkness.

dB
 
BrandonD said:
Ah, I'm interested in geology but I'm only an amateur. Do you subscribe to the standard model of the earth's interior? If so, what are your opinions on deep quakes?

Well, I will sound like a tard here but what do you mean by standard?...

I do understand that there is an earth as has been eluded too. It is a possibility I am comfortable with understanding the physics of gravity and pressures. However, give me super-substantial evidence of a north-south entry to the inner sun and I may be swayed...Consequentially, the radio-sonde evidence I have seen points to a model currently taught.

I have looked into “hollow earth theories” and can find no geological evidence to support them. Gravity alone can negate many “out-of-the-ass-theories”. Not to mention time-oriented geological events. Hey-Zues, common sense tells most people the earth is older than 6,000 years!
 
Seth said:
Well, I will sound like a tard here but what do you mean by standard?...

Not a tard at all, I'm not an expert on geology so maybe there are multiple reigning theories, but I'm only familiar with the one I learned in school: That there is a solid outer crust for about 50 miles, then an outer and inner mantle which are molten and extend inward to an outer core of liquid iron surrounding a solid iron inner core.

I asked about deep quakes because it is one of the unexplained geological phenomena that calls into question the accepted model. When an earthquake takes place 400 miles down, in a region of the earth's interior that's supposed to be so intensely hot that all substances are molten, it's still a legitimate mystery.

So not *all* evidence points to the model currently taught.

Seth said:
I do understand that there is an earth as has been eluded too. It is a possibility I am comfortable with understanding the physics of gravity and pressures. However, give me super-substantial evidence of a north-south entry to the inner sun and I may be swayed...Consequentially, the radio-sonde evidence I have seen points to a model currently taught.

I have looked into “hollow earth theories” and can find no geological evidence to support them. Gravity alone can negate many “out-of-the-ass-theories”. Not to mention time-oriented geological events. Hey-Zues, common sense tells most people the earth is older than 6,000 years!

I have no idea of an inner sun and polar openings and all that business. This subject doesn't have to be so black and white... as in, the earth is either "exactly as you learned in school" or "completely hollow with a sun inside and giant people inhabiting magnificent cities". There is enough space between those two theories to fit the grand canyon, and I suspect the truth lies somewhere in that middle space.

I think it's conceivable that there exist large cavities within the earth. This doesn't mean a hollow earth with an inner sun and polar openings, just large hollow spaces. The composition of the inner-earth is really just educated guesswork when you get down to it, so I don't see why the idea of hollow cavities seems to crazy to some people.
 
You all realize that the source material for I Am Legend, the novella by Richard Matheson, predates the Romero films by a good decade and the first movie version, Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, was made three or four years before Night of the Living Dead? The second version, The Omega Man (which is pretty obviously the real basis of the new movie) was produced in 1971. Speaking on Matheson, has anyone else heard that they are remaking The Incredible Shrinking Man, which he also wrote? Matheson is a really under-appreciated talent... his writings also formed the basis for Somewhere in Time, Hollow Man, What Dreams May Come and more.

I didn't really like Shaun of the Dead. It was okay but it seemed to me to be kind of weak compared to Peter Jackson's brilliant Dead Alive (you have to see the unrated version). I went through a big zombie craze recently... the Blind Dead movies cured me (for the time being... I still need to lay hands on a copy of the Japanese film Versus 2).
 
David Biedny said:
Personally, I love Dark City, for more than one reason.

- Jennifer Connelly (who, BTW, is going to be in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still). I'd be happy watching her pick her nose.

- Directed by the same fellow who did The Crow, one of my cult fave films.

- Weird, dark feel to it. Not easy to watch.

- Good music.

- And they even got an "up ending" out of the darkness.

dB

Don't forget the one ingredient every great film requires: a really creepy kid...
 
David Biedny, what did you think of Solaris (if you've seen it)?
Just seems to me like maybe an odd sort of movie that you might like (while most people didn't like it).
There's really not much too the movie but it certainly has a far out feel to it.
I hear the book is better..
 
BrandonD said:
I asked about deep quakes because it is one of the unexplained geological phenomena that calls into question the accepted model. When an earthquake takes place 400 miles down, in a region of the earth's interior that's supposed to be so intensely hot that all substances are molten, it's still a legitimate mystery.

So not *all* evidence points to the model currently taught.

I have no idea of an inner sun and polar openings and all that business. This subject doesn't have to be so black and white... as in, the earth is either "exactly as you learned in school" or "completely hollow with a sun inside and giant people inhabiting magnificent cities". There is enough space between those two theories to fit the grand canyon, and I suspect the truth lies somewhere in that middle space.

I think it's conceivable that there exist large cavities within the earth. This doesn't mean a hollow earth with an inner sun and polar openings, just large hollow spaces. The composition of the inner-earth is really just educated guesswork when you get down to it, so I don't see why the idea of hollow cavities seems to crazy to some people.

I jokingly mentioned the hollow-earth theory (hypothesis actually) because it has little if any evidence to support it.

The current model of earth does allow for cavities i.e. karst, lava tubes, vents and so on. On that note, special circumstances are needed to form voids in all rock types. Typically, this is an errosional or volcanic source.

The crust is not the same depth in all places. The roots of mountains extend far deeper than other terrestrial locations. Predicting the exact depth of a quake is a mathematical investigation based on vectors and not especially specific.

As for deep quakes, one should expect a dynamic mantle and core to produce movement and gyrations from time to time. This movement can be interpreted as deep quakes when measuring from a solid medium above. For example, convection currents apply pressures to overlying plates causing stress. A stress value can be established anywhere along this continuum.
 
Michael L. said:
You all realize that the source material for I Am Legend, the novella by Richard Matheson, predates the Romero films by a good decade and the first movie version, Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, was made three or four years before Night of the Living Dead? The second version, The Omega Man (which is pretty obviously the real basis of the new movie) was produced in 1971. Speaking on Matheson, has anyone else heard that they are remaking The Incredible Shrinking Man, which he also wrote? Matheson is a really under-appreciated talent... his writings also formed the basis for Somewhere in Time, Hollow Man, What Dreams May Come and more.

I didn't really like Shaun of the Dead. It was okay but it seemed to me to be kind of weak compared to Peter Jackson's brilliant Dead Alive (you have to see the unrated version). I went through a big zombie craze recently... the Blind Dead movies cured me (for the time being... I still need to lay hands on a copy of the Japanese film Versus 2).

I think the ....zombie, end of the world, everybody else transforms into a cannibalistic mobile cadaver (except the one hero left on earth, or maybe a couple of others), let's see how many we can kill with a helicopter or an arsenal of the latest hardware, and then, shit, my best friend or dog gets bitten then i have to kill him.......genre has well and truly been thrashed to death and now should be put in some kind of cryogenic holding facility along with Benny Hinn.
 
Sunshine turned out to be a great disappointment. Struck me as just a melange of plot elements crudely lifted from other films.
I Am Legend started of well enough but degenerated into a yawner at about the halfway point. I did like the cg design of the infected humans. Almost believable in a couple of scenes.
The two contemporary films I have enjoyed recently, The Mist and 30 Days of Night, don't really qualify as sci-fi, unless you're willing to stretch the definition beyond the usual limit. My one complaint with 30 Days was the silly, lazy solution the writers worked up to deal with the cell phone problem. It could have been done better.
As is usually the case, the films I've liked most over the last few weeks have all been long in the tooth. I've added quite a few to my dvd collection, including the Incredible Shrinking Man, the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Brainstorm, and the final cut of Blade Runner.
A new guilty pleasure is Devil Girl from Mars, a 50's British smeller you just have to see to believe. The high point has to be the Martian robot demonstrating his amazing prowess. You'll bust a gut.
 
I still watch Stargate about once every couple of months. Fantastic movie. I was let down by the latest Invasion movie with Nicole Kidman. That was almost as bad as War of the Worlds. But, I still have to go with the holly trinity. Star Wars (the original 3)
 
RonCollins said:
I still watch Stargate about once every couple of months. Fantastic movie. I was let down by the latest Invasion movie with Nicole Kidman. That was almost as bad as War of the Worlds. But, I still have to go with the holly trinity. Star Wars (the original 3)

I liked stargate alot, but I kind of wish it was a longer movie. I felt they could have gone into it so much more. But I guess that's what the TV series was all about.
 
Paranormal Packrat said:
I watched Transformers last night. I liked it.

No no no no... they changed Jazz, my favorite character! In the cartoon he was the white porsche with the voice like Redd Fox, and in the movie they changed him into a mazda protege or something stupid like that.
 
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