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Sleep paralysis - who else has experienced this?
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Aqualung
Skilled Investigator
Yeah, I'm sure it's all the same phenomenon. I've witnessed glowing balls of light in 'haunted' locations that behave exactly the same way as Foo Fighters are described to. They behave as if there is something sentient behind them, they can be threatening, curious or totally nonchalant. I've seen these things flitter around in several places and they've varied in size from that of a marble to that of a half sized football (soccer ball, for U.S. Friends).
I don't see why these things are associated anymore with ghosts than the larger ones are associated with E.T.
We've plenty of first hand witness accounts of them, but where is the evidence that they are spirits of the dead or alien.
Back to Sleep Paralysis... Why is it deemed a less real experience than driving a car? I can tell you all I've woken with a jolt wondering where I am and how I got there after both.
I don't see why these things are associated anymore with ghosts than the larger ones are associated with E.T.
We've plenty of first hand witness accounts of them, but where is the evidence that they are spirits of the dead or alien.
Back to Sleep Paralysis... Why is it deemed a less real experience than driving a car? I can tell you all I've woken with a jolt wondering where I am and how I got there after both.
Ron Away
Paranormal Adept
Remind me not to get a lift from you.There doesn't seem to be any trigger to the sleep paralysis episodes ive experienced.I don't drink or do drugs and im not on any medication.I have been both sleeping alone and with a girlfriend when these things have happened.Yeah, I'm sure it's all the same phenomenon. I've witnessed glowing balls of light in 'haunted' locations that behave exactly the same way as Foo Fighters are described to. They behave as if there is something sentient behind them, they can be threatening, curious or totally nonchalant. I've seen these things flitter around in several places and they've varied in size from that of a marble to that of a half sized football (soccer ball, for U.S. Friends).
I don't see why these things are associated anymore with ghosts than the larger ones are associated with E.T.
We've plenty of first hand witness accounts of them, but where is the evidence that they are spirits of the dead or alien.
Back to Sleep Paralysis... Why is it deemed a less real experience than driving a car? I can tell you all I've woken with a jolt wondering where I am and how I got there after both.
Azz7092
Paranormal Maven
Its definetly a strange world we live in i forgot to mention that there was a UFO reported in the area at the time of her experience and the next night at the same time she had a horrible feeling that she was being observed she said she prayed that it would go away eventually the feeling of being watched did subside. i was in contact with Derrel Sims about this case i was unfortunate to use black light on her at the time she was to scared and did not want to know.
im not here to discount peoples stories but I'm intrigued by the whole phenomenon your story is fascinating and like many others in the field know one will truly know whats going on. i do believe the mind is much more powerful then we give it credit for i to experimented with hallucinogenic's when younger and had experiences before and after but maybe on some cases (not all)they can open the mind for people to see whats going on in the sky above them, i was also looking at perspective's not every person sees the same UFO on occasion this could also be attributed to how the mind digest's the information on the unknown.
Aqualung
Skilled Investigator
Me neither anymore, I quit smoking cigarettes several years back too. I'm on prescription pain relief meds for M.E and that's it.
Sleep paralysis is often connected to stress by the way. So that's something to take into account.
The driving things weird. You just go into automatic driving. It's really common.
Aqualung
Skilled Investigator
Azz, what was the black light about?
I've never heard of this. What does it do?
I've only just gone and looked at who Derrel Sims is. I'd not heard of him. Is he reputable?
No disrespect intended towards him, I just don't know anything about him.
Azz7092
Paranormal Maven
Well according to derrels research that he's used on abductees a strong UV light revels (if that person has had contact with an Alien entity) that they leave a finger print called Flouesence on the body just google it Derrel has a long reputation in the field he's ex CIA and helps a lot of people both for investigating and abductees he's helped me out a few times, he's had a podcast episode with Alejandro Rojas on open minds .tv
I'm sure gene and chris have had him on the show too chris knows him better than me.
hope this helps mate
Waller
Paranormal Maven
Ron Away
Paranormal Adept
Thanks for that.I can't help but be cynical as soon as these people start charging for their fantastical services.
Aqualung
Skilled Investigator
It's a damned if you do and broke if you don't scenario, though isn't it?
People consider free to be lacking in quality and so expect to pay. I know mediums who have said that if they don't pay, people don't believe they're gaining anything. A convenience of the fraudulent?
No one complains that a preacher or a doctor or a shrink gets paid, although they are probably just as likely to be in it for the money. If a lawyer was free, people would think he was rubbish.
It's so odd what people are prepared to pay for, with no cynicism, and ask no questions. The amount of work for 'exposure' that I get offered for my illustrations is crazy, no one wants to pay... But they'll not even question paying someone from another trade. I've a mate who once put his hand in a microwave oven and jammed the catch with a knife so it thought the door was shut... He then proceeded to cook his hand for 30 seconds to see what happened. He went on to be an electrician at the Sellafield Nuclear Energy Plant. Nobody ever questioned if he was good enough or even mad enough to cook his own digits... They just presumed he was responsible and paid him. I shudder to think what he was up to there. To this day I have visions of him jamming the reactors open with a knife and putting his face in, just to see what happened.
People consider free to be lacking in quality and so expect to pay. I know mediums who have said that if they don't pay, people don't believe they're gaining anything. A convenience of the fraudulent?
No one complains that a preacher or a doctor or a shrink gets paid, although they are probably just as likely to be in it for the money. If a lawyer was free, people would think he was rubbish.
It's so odd what people are prepared to pay for, with no cynicism, and ask no questions. The amount of work for 'exposure' that I get offered for my illustrations is crazy, no one wants to pay... But they'll not even question paying someone from another trade. I've a mate who once put his hand in a microwave oven and jammed the catch with a knife so it thought the door was shut... He then proceeded to cook his hand for 30 seconds to see what happened. He went on to be an electrician at the Sellafield Nuclear Energy Plant. Nobody ever questioned if he was good enough or even mad enough to cook his own digits... They just presumed he was responsible and paid him. I shudder to think what he was up to there. To this day I have visions of him jamming the reactors open with a knife and putting his face in, just to see what happened.
Ron Away
Paranormal Adept
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I have no choice but to pay doctors with my national insurance contributions.I have no need for preachers or shrinks.At least I can see tangible results with a doctor.It's a damned if you do and broke if you don't scenario, though isn't it?
People consider free to be lacking in quality and so expect to pay. I know mediums who have said that if they don't pay, people don't believe they're gaining anything. A convenience of the fraudulent?
No one complains that a preacher or a doctor or a shrink gets paid, although they are probably just as likely to be in it for the money. If a lawyer was free, people would think he was rubbish.
It's so odd what people are prepared to pay for, with no cynicism, and ask no questions. The amount of work for 'exposure' that I get offered for my illustrations is crazy, no one wants to pay... But they'll not even question paying someone from another trade. I've a mate who once put his hand in a microwave oven and jammed the catch with a knife so it thought the door was shut... He then proceeded to cook his hand for 30 seconds to see what happened. He went on to be an electrician at the Sellafield Nuclear Energy Plant. Nobody ever questioned if he was good enough or even mad enough to cook his own digits... They just presumed he was responsible and paid him. I shudder to think what he was up to there. To this day I have visions of him jamming the reactors open with a knife and putting his face in, just to see what happened.
Creepy Green Light
Paranormal Adept
I'm going to censor myself on what I would like to post about Sims. I just Googled his name and this is the first hit that comes up; (really??? Worlds Leading Expert????? Determined by who??)
Derrel Sims: Alien Hunter
www.alienhunter.org/
The world's leading expert on alien abductions.
Derrel Sims: Alien Hunter
www.alienhunter.org/
The world's leading expert on alien abductions.
ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
Sleep Paralysis a scientific term for we really don't know ! rather put a label so folks can sleep at night.
William Strathmann
Paranormal Adept
After reading the accounts in this thread I think it’s worth mentioning that it was only after 1975 that the idea of dark matter was widely accepted, after red-shift observations on spiral galaxy arms were published. In other words, pre-1975-physics (and all that depends on it, e.g. chemistry and biology) was essentially unaware of a massive amount of physical substance that actually makes up the universe, substance that no one has seen. One can suppose, then, that in a similar way, empirical science is simply unequipped to grasp a realm where sentient agents interact with us on the fringe of our perception.
When I was about thirteen, a basketball-sized white luminescent sphere simply appeared on the living room floor between me and my little sister, who was sitting on the floor about six feet away. After about a two count, seemingly to make sure I’d seen it, the sphere moved to my left about six feet and passed under a wooden bureau with a four inch clearance, and then disappeared through metal floor ventilation grating under the bureau. No physical traces.
Then, about sixteen, I was cleaning my dad’s 1911 .45 pistol. He’d taught us kids gun safety and though we weren’t nuts about weapons, Midwest farming folk usually have a few. I popped out the loaded magazine, pulled the slide back to make sure the pistol was unloaded, broke it down, cleaned it, reassembled it and fiddled with it for a couple more minutes. I popped the magazine out again. At that moment I perceived clear articulate words, internally: “Put it to your head and pull the trigger” (as a joke). I was disturbed about that thought because I was not a prankster, nor was I suffering from depression, nor was I on legal or illegal drugs. Perplexed, I pulled the slide back and . . . out popped a round. I was stunned. I’d chambered a round by mistake. If I’d played along with this malicious “trickster” suggestion mom’s kitchen would have been a freaking 45-to-the-head bloody mess. I had no idea what this meant at the time but it was disquieting.
About eight years later, in around 1978, I had about seven of the so-called sleep paralysis experiences. I was 24 and in the USMC where I was a fire-control radar tech for F-4 Phantoms. In those days I’d not heard of “sleep paralysis” or of “abduction” or of anything like what I experienced. About two years prior to these experiences I’d started questioning my materialistic worldview and I had begun exploring a theistic worldview, and for about a year I’d been reading the Bible to see what it said, since I had no idea. The seven SP experiences were all similar. I’d wake from sound sleep at around 03:00 (give or take) paralyzed, sensing intense strangulation around my neck, and sensing a malevolent presence, though nothing was visible. I was highly agitated because of the strangulation, and I had no idea at all of what was going on. The only thing that came to my mind was to call to Jesus Christ for aid. So I struggled against the paralysis, trying to move my tongue. The moment I could form “Je” (as in Jesus) I’d instantly be released and I’d gulp in air, as if I’d been held underwater too long. Following that first episode I figured this must be some kind of of “spiritual” attack, as in biblical conceptualization.
Around that same time I had an unforgettable and very unpleasant vivid dream involving an ominous, extremely ugly old lady. Total downer of a dream experience. I was unaware of “Old Hag” reports for another twenty years, but, surprisingly enough, my first thought about the experience when it happened was that this repulsive figure was literally some kind of Old Hag. Again around that same time another vivid dream in which I was alone with a stunning brunette who resembled Elizabeth Taylor in her prime (woohoo!). The instant my lips touched her skin in a kiss, my entire vision field turned completely into reptilian scales, like those of a black snake, and I also sensed a repulsive, nauseating, overpowering reptilian presence that was really beyond description. I awoke instantly, totally grossed out. (Talk about bait and switch!) I sensed a subtle communication just at the verbal threshold, to the effect: “Ha, ha, ha! Got you, you stupid bastage!” My construal has been that this experience was satanic reptilian, not extra-terrestrial alien reptilian. Also, since then, as a theist I’ve had some wonderfully positive experiences on the other side of the sensation spectrum, which coincide with biblical reports.
May all who are tormented find relief.
When I was about thirteen, a basketball-sized white luminescent sphere simply appeared on the living room floor between me and my little sister, who was sitting on the floor about six feet away. After about a two count, seemingly to make sure I’d seen it, the sphere moved to my left about six feet and passed under a wooden bureau with a four inch clearance, and then disappeared through metal floor ventilation grating under the bureau. No physical traces.
Then, about sixteen, I was cleaning my dad’s 1911 .45 pistol. He’d taught us kids gun safety and though we weren’t nuts about weapons, Midwest farming folk usually have a few. I popped out the loaded magazine, pulled the slide back to make sure the pistol was unloaded, broke it down, cleaned it, reassembled it and fiddled with it for a couple more minutes. I popped the magazine out again. At that moment I perceived clear articulate words, internally: “Put it to your head and pull the trigger” (as a joke). I was disturbed about that thought because I was not a prankster, nor was I suffering from depression, nor was I on legal or illegal drugs. Perplexed, I pulled the slide back and . . . out popped a round. I was stunned. I’d chambered a round by mistake. If I’d played along with this malicious “trickster” suggestion mom’s kitchen would have been a freaking 45-to-the-head bloody mess. I had no idea what this meant at the time but it was disquieting.
About eight years later, in around 1978, I had about seven of the so-called sleep paralysis experiences. I was 24 and in the USMC where I was a fire-control radar tech for F-4 Phantoms. In those days I’d not heard of “sleep paralysis” or of “abduction” or of anything like what I experienced. About two years prior to these experiences I’d started questioning my materialistic worldview and I had begun exploring a theistic worldview, and for about a year I’d been reading the Bible to see what it said, since I had no idea. The seven SP experiences were all similar. I’d wake from sound sleep at around 03:00 (give or take) paralyzed, sensing intense strangulation around my neck, and sensing a malevolent presence, though nothing was visible. I was highly agitated because of the strangulation, and I had no idea at all of what was going on. The only thing that came to my mind was to call to Jesus Christ for aid. So I struggled against the paralysis, trying to move my tongue. The moment I could form “Je” (as in Jesus) I’d instantly be released and I’d gulp in air, as if I’d been held underwater too long. Following that first episode I figured this must be some kind of of “spiritual” attack, as in biblical conceptualization.
Around that same time I had an unforgettable and very unpleasant vivid dream involving an ominous, extremely ugly old lady. Total downer of a dream experience. I was unaware of “Old Hag” reports for another twenty years, but, surprisingly enough, my first thought about the experience when it happened was that this repulsive figure was literally some kind of Old Hag. Again around that same time another vivid dream in which I was alone with a stunning brunette who resembled Elizabeth Taylor in her prime (woohoo!). The instant my lips touched her skin in a kiss, my entire vision field turned completely into reptilian scales, like those of a black snake, and I also sensed a repulsive, nauseating, overpowering reptilian presence that was really beyond description. I awoke instantly, totally grossed out. (Talk about bait and switch!) I sensed a subtle communication just at the verbal threshold, to the effect: “Ha, ha, ha! Got you, you stupid bastage!” My construal has been that this experience was satanic reptilian, not extra-terrestrial alien reptilian. Also, since then, as a theist I’ve had some wonderfully positive experiences on the other side of the sensation spectrum, which coincide with biblical reports.
May all who are tormented find relief.
Thanks for sharing. I've had a few experiences over the years that might, in a limited way, be regarded as sleep paralysis. But I never took them seriously nor went around claiming ET had abducted me and did horrible things to my sphincter.
Ron Away
Paranormal Adept
I too experienced being taken from my bed and taken out of the house via a sky light.I never saw a craft and I don't recall being interfered with in any way.I'm sure there's a logical reason for this that doesn't involve intruders.Our minds are remarkable things.