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I deliberately disengaged myself from having any involvement with UFOs back in the 1980s, and quit looking for them out in the field. I moved 25 miles east of where the original sightings occurred, and I didn’t see any UFOs here until 2 years ago. I purchased another laser last spring, and found myself sucked into it again. Words cannot adequately describe how extraordinary this phenomenon is. It is such a dichotomy. As the human drama plays out; there is a sentient phenomenon operating in the background; a manifestation of energy and form beyond our present level of understanding. It brings into question our preconceived notions of reality. I do believe that something is in the process of happening. You cannot discount the significance of this matter. I flash back to 1977, and compare what was happening then to what is happening now, and can see what has changed. Ultimately, the unknown beings are beyond our control. Regardless of what the world governments do; they will not be able to prevent the beings from making their presence known. Moreover, we don’t know why the beings are here, or what they are capable of doing.
 
If you're seeing so many UFOs, why have you not have any HD footage of them? If I were you I'd have an HD camera with me all the time.
I didn't know that I would be seeing them from my upstairs window last summer. I did take some still pictures. I'm already in debt. I can't afford to spend a thousand bucks for a decent camera.
 
You can get a pretty amazing camera for less that $400.
The camera I have works great in daylight. All the shots I got last summer and fall were at night. The camera recorded the images, but I can't manually adjust the shutter speed for night shots with this camera. I wasn't able to freeze the motion of the object. I did freeze the the motion on one shot. It was directly in front of the camera lens. There are many factors to take into consideration. The size, speed, and distance of the object. The lighting conditions. I would like to catch one hovering. I'm not aware of any SLR digital cameras with high definition movie mode, and night shot capability for $400.00.
 
There aren't any. I was talking about my handheld video camera. It takes pretty amazing video. It's a Canon. All I'm saying is that there are very few excuses to get good videos of alleged UFOs if you see them with such frequency.
 
Like I stated: I didn't know that I would be seeing them here. Back when I borrowed money I considered investing in equipment. You rarely see them in the daytime. Why that is I don't know. Since I'm not pushing a book or planning to be grilled by Gene and Chris in the Paracast, it doesn't really matter. I don't know if your video camera would work at night or not. I'm working on trying to make some more money. The economy imploding screwed me up.
 
Please post any footage you have. However good/bad you think it is. The problem with me with all the crap on youtube is that there is no corroboration - no personal aspect. However, if you chose to post a video and are willing to state that you shot that video and there was no fakery, then as much as that counts for anything in this world, it's good enough for me until proved otherwise. The very fact you mention this in such a forum as this lends a good bit of credibility to your story.
As I said, I would really appreciate if you could manage to post any footage. I know many other forum members would be equally thankful. To me, this is the good shit, despite maybe not being great quality - it has a no-profit/fame factor that is appealing. Also the fact you haven't spewed a pile onto here before also shows you haven't went out to fake stuff and get the world to believe it.

No, as much as I can tell, this rings true, if I'm any judge with the info available. Some personal description with the footage would also be invaluable.
If I ever shoot any UFO footage, this is the one place I would even think of putting it up on. Least you are guaranteed a fair hearing and some honest opinions!
 
Please post any footage you have. However good/bad you think it is. The problem with me with all the crap on youtube is that there is no corroboration - no personal aspect. However, if you chose to post a video and are willing to state that you shot that video and there was no fakery, then as much as that counts for anything in this world, it's good enough for me until proved otherwise. The very fact you mention this in such a forum as this lends a good bit of credibility to your story.
As I said, I would really appreciate if you could manage to post any footage. I know many other forum members would be equally thankful. To me, this is the good shit, despite maybe not being great quality - it has a no-profit/fame factor that is appealing. Also the fact you haven't spewed a pile onto here before also shows you haven't went out to fake stuff and get the world to believe it.

No, as much as I can tell, this rings true, if I'm any judge with the info available. Some personal description with the footage would also be invaluable.
If I ever shoot any UFO footage, this is the one place I would even think of putting it up on. Least you are guaranteed a fair hearing and some honest opinions!


While I remember. How easy is it still to get an old-style analogue film for cameras - you know - like 36mm etc? I wonder about picking up maybe a second hand old camera for next to nothing and then loading it up with some real colour and black and white film - carry it around the times these sightings tend to happen. If there is no discernable pattern to the UFOs appearances then just carry the thing all the time!
This way there is no need to spend a lot. Also, it is far harder to fake using old film, it is good that the negatives can be examined too. Also, these films can be blown up a good deal with less quality loss than many modern digital cameras. I think to be really worthwhile for UFOs, digital cameras need to be very high megapixel values etc, you want maximum quality esp.
when zoomed into.

One thing that Jose Escamilla pointed out - there are modern camcorders that have an infra-red capability. He very clever showed that by taping the same section of sky with two distinct video cameras, one on normal the other on infra-red - he could demonstrate that there were craft often aloft that the unaided eye does not see. He has split-screen footage of a piece of sky and on one you see nothing out of place, on the other side, the infra-red side, you plainly see what looks like a rotating structured craft hovering for some time.
How often are there craft above us that are not visible? It is plain that the UFO occupants either no not want all of us to see them openly all the time, it is plain that sometimes they seem to want to be seen, or at the very least, are uncaring about being seen at that particular time.
I can imagine there are therefore many times in which UFOs want to go about their business in our skies but without being seen. If they have the ability to do this at will, then they may well be doing this most of the time! What if there are many, many more sightings to be had and recorded, if we only extend our surveillance of them past the visible band of the electromagnetic spectrum to include the infra-red (and why not ultra-violet too, the other direction?) I think if this became a matter of course for cameras, we may find many more UFOs in our skies than we believe are around right now. The implications, if true, are huge.
 
Please post any footage you have. However good/bad you think it is. The problem with me with all the crap on youtube is that there is no corroboration - no personal aspect. However, if you chose to post a video and are willing to state that you shot that video and there was no fakery, then as much as that counts for anything in this world, it's good enough for me until proved otherwise. The very fact you mention this in such a forum as this lends a good bit of credibility to your story.
As I said, I would really appreciate if you could manage to post any footage. I know many other forum members would be equally thankful. To me, this is the good shit, despite maybe not being great quality - it has a no-profit/fame factor that is appealing. Also the fact you haven't spewed a pile onto here before also shows you haven't went out to fake stuff and get the world to believe it.

No, as much as I can tell, this rings true, if I'm any judge with the info available. Some personal description with the footage would also be invaluable.
If I ever shoot any UFO footage, this is the one place I would even think of putting it up on. Least you are guaranteed a fair hearing and some honest opinions!


While I remember. How easy is it still to get an old-style analogue film for cameras - you know - like 36mm etc? I wonder about picking up maybe a second hand old camera for next to nothing and then loading it up with some real colour and black and white film - carry it around the times these sightings tend to happen. If there is no discernable pattern to the UFOs appearances then just carry the thing all the time!
This way there is no need to spend a lot. Also, it is far harder to fake using old film, it is good that the negatives can be examined too. Also, these films can be blown up a good deal with less quality loss than many modern digital cameras. I think to be really worthwhile for UFOs, digital cameras need to be very high megapixel values etc, you want maximum quality esp.
when zoomed into.

One thing that Jose Escamilla pointed out - there are modern camcorders that have an infra-red capability. He very clever showed that by taping the same section of sky with two distinct video cameras, one on normal the other on infra-red - he could demonstrate that there were craft often aloft that the unaided eye does not see. He has split-screen footage of a piece of sky and on one you see nothing out of place, on the other side, the infra-red side, you plainly see what looks like a rotating structured craft hovering for some time.
How often are there craft above us that are not visible? It is plain that the UFO occupants either no not want all of us to see them openly all the time, it is plain that sometimes they seem to want to be seen, or at the very least, are uncaring about being seen at that particular time.
I can imagine there are therefore many times in which UFOs want to go about their business in our skies but without being seen. If they have the ability to do this at will, then they may well be doing this most of the time! What if there are many, many more sightings to be had and recorded, if we only extend our surveillance of them past the visible band of the electromagnetic spectrum to include the infra-red (and why not ultra-violet too, the other direction?) I think if this became a matter of course for cameras, we may find many more UFOs in our skies than we believe are around right now. The implications, if true, are huge.

I am already familiar with all of the-above: It makes no difference to me whether or not people believe what I have experienced. I have no need or desire to try and convince people of anything. I am beginning to wonder if I want to have anything to do with the media, as it relates to the so-called field of Ufology. I have always worked independently. I have never filed a report with any UFO organization, nor have I ever sought out publicity. I study the phenomenon because I find it to be extremely interesting. I’m not going to enter into a haphazard discourse with the people on this forum. The general consensus among the people in this forum is that the phenomenon is real. There is no unity of purpose. Everybody has their own personal agenda. We cannot, and will not act collectively to accomplish anything.
 
Voyager - in some respects I'm not sure where you are coming from. Could you explain a little more, it's me that needs catching up!
I totally get that you are not interested in trying to change minds on any scale because frankly, people usually have done that for themselves.

But I would still urge you to post any anomalous footage on the forum. No-one need call it 'ufo' or whatever. It is whatever it is. I have a personal interest in seeing lots of footage and I don't want to see it just to call fraud, real or whatever. I just want to see more footage for my own broader understanding/experience regarding these weird unexplainable things people see in the sky. I've never seen a UFO so I really on the telling from others and video footage etc.
 
Voyager - in some respects I'm not sure where you are coming from. Could you explain a little more, it's me that needs catching up!
I totally get that you are not interested in trying to change minds on any scale because frankly, people usually have done that for themselves.

But I would still urge you to post any anomalous footage on the forum. No-one need call it 'ufo' or whatever. It is whatever it is. I have a personal interest in seeing lots of footage and I don't want to see it just to call fraud, real or whatever. I just want to see more footage for my own broader understanding/experience regarding these weird unexplainable things people see in the sky. I've never seen a UFO so I really on the telling from others and video footage etc.
Dear Goggsmackay: I don't have any video recordings. I do have some still pictures I took with my Sony DSC-H2 digital camera. The pictures are of a luminous sphere.
 
Ok, fair enough. I take it you have ruled out a dust reflection (or whatever causes many to think their digital cameras have captured orbs). Sounds more like a self-luminonus sphere. Could you make any kind of guess to it's dimensions?

I find the whole sphere phenomenon really strange. Whilst looking intelligently controlled and often appearing in large numbers (check out mexico city) they are sometimes very high in the sky but often too down near ground level. They look too small to have occupants so you have to wonder is it something 'supernatural' or just some alien remote-control scouting device? It could be a whole lot weirder than any of that I suppose.

Do you have any ideas of your own Voyager? The closest thing like that to happen to someone I know is when a seethru but coloured ball of 'electricity' entered a friends house and kinda floated about a bit in the living room, before either dissipating at the back of their TV or out the window. It wasn't being blown by any wind. They called out the electric people and the local council and the only explanation given as a possibility was 'ball lightning' by the man from electricity board. He'd heard of such things but never witnessed it. So we don't know if it was something paranormal or some weird electrical effect. To my knowledge, ball lightning is poorly understood, the mechanism is not known and many do not believe it exists, despite it being caught on camera numerous times. I think there may be ball lightning totally separately from any UFO type thing.
 
This not an orb. I estimate that it is at least 10' in diameter. The size and density of the energy field surrounding the spheres varies. There is a solid sphere at the central core. I have observed it. . It traveled over my house on 3 sepearate occasions. I estimate the altitude was 400 feet. I observed red spheres where I used to live. The diameter of the red spheres is larger than the commonly seen white spheres. The color of the white spheres varies between orange, yellow and white. They definitely are under intelligent control. What is inside of them is unknown. To state that the sphere phenomenon is strange is an understatement. All of this very complicated. I'm not going try encapsulate eveything I know here at this time.
 
Wow! and here's me assuming it was like a foot across. Something ten feet across is hard to ignore. Who knows but you have some really strange stuff going on round your way man!
 
Wow! and here's me assuming it was like a foot across. Something ten feet across is hard to ignore. Who knows but you have some really strange stuff going on round your way man!
The story about what happened last year is stranger than I care to try and relate. When this thread is gone, I'm gone.
 
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