Steve Polydoris

[Bunson]

Well, Bunson, it was all 'bs'-that was a given from the start. But whose 'bs'? It was highly theatrical, and bold, and laced with some valuable insights into the nature of the game, and which encouraged interested parties to beware of 'birds' bearing 'gifts'. It would take a book to do it any justice, and there is a possibility that things may come together this year to get it done.

Haven't heard back from Norio but not that surprised, especially if he reads the forums! Its clear that you thought it was all BS from the beginning, but doesn't seem that Norio was playing on the same team. Not sure about your bird reference, but the complexity of it all does seem to beg for a gift of a book on it all from you and Greg.

 

[bbridges]

Haven't heard back from Norio but not that surprised, especially if he reads the forums! Its clear that you thought it was all BS from the beginning, but doesn't seem that Norio was playing on the same team. Not sure about your bird reference, but the complexity of it all does seem to beg for a gift of a book on it all from you and Greg.

That's a reference to...uh,..., come on, someone other than me take a shot at it, if you know the history of that period of colorful psyops...

 

[withoutlimits09]

Today Norio may state he thinks it is all BS but I can tell you this, back in the "day" when he was running with Gary Schultz he didn't think it was BS. Back when they were putting on public shows Norio and Gary Schultz thought Michael Younger (who Norio called "Mr. Mike") was the real insider deal. Norio at least at the time, publicly bought into the underground bases, evil aliens, Comm 12 .. the whole schmere. These days Norio sings a different tune.

Decker

This is an important distinction Don, and one I tried to press onto Norio when he was on your show. He kept maintaining how there was NEVER anything to the ETH and tried to suggest he NEVER took it too seriously because of the lack of evidence. I asked him if there was nothing to it, and if there was very little evidence, what the heck did he spend the last 20 years of his life researching, presenting, writing about, and organizing. Why would someone even spend a moment out at Area 51 hanging out with Gary Schulz and Mike Younger while leading Japanese film crews out to Area 51 to witness UFO FLIGHTS if they don't buy into it?

 

[Muadib]

That's a reference to...uh,..., come on, someone other than me take a shot at it, if you know the history of that period of colorful psyops...

The Aviary, a group of supposed insiders given bird names as a means of identification, most, if not all of their information turned out to be disinformation and was the basis for the famous UFO Coverup Live television program in 1988. Most of them have been identified as members of various government and military organizations. What do I win?

List of Aviary Members
Written by Grant Cameron
Friday, 29 April 2011 14:46

• BLUE JAY: Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, MD, Ph.D; Chief, Biomedical Sciences Department, General Motors, former head of the CIA's UFO files at the "Weird Desk."
• SEA GULL: Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D., research scientist in optical physics and laser weapons applications at the U.S. Naval Surface Weapons Lab, Maryland; MUFON physics/photo-interpretive consultant.
• PELICAN: Ron Pandolfi, CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and Technology and current custodian of UFO files at the "Weird Desk"; may be involved in the White House initiative to promptly release UFO information to the public.
• OWL: Hal Puthoff, physicist with the Institute for Advanced Research in Austin, Texas, who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a quantum/resonance physics phenomenon with reported potential for above-unity ("free") energy.
• PENGUIN: John Alexander, Ph.D, Lt. Col. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command Col.
• HAWK: Ernie Kellerstrauss, security cleared for UFO information; worked at Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1970s and reportedly lived with an extraterrestrial for a while.
• CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with the Office of Naval intelligence and other agencies; 30 years service in U.S. intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and other organizations; former aide to Sen. Clairborne Pell, who had had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
• CONDOR: Capt. Bob Collins, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, engaged in UFO-related intelligence operations, reportedly appeared clandestinely on the 1988 television program "UFO Cover-Up Live"
• FALCON: Many have fingered Sgt. Richard "Dick" Doty, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations; reported to have engaged in UFO disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Howe concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. and allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque defense electronic contractor Paul Bennewitz. The actual Falcon was a DIA agent with a Slavic name who died in 2001. Only Bill Moore and Greg Bishop know who this person is as far as we know.
• SPARROW: Richard Doty
• RAVEN: (Identity not yet determined – actually may be two different ones.) One raven may have been Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special department. Second RAVEN appears to be a kingpin. Jamie Shandera dealt with him.
• PARTRIDGE?: Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., formerly an astrophysicist with GEPAN, the French Government’s UFO investigative agency, later moved to U.S. as principal investigator with Defense Department computer network projects; worked with famed astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek author on UFO subject.
• Jack Vorona (bird name unknown) - Vorona was apparently the most covert of all the Birds. He was believed to have been a liaison between Capitol Hill and Los Alamos. Was once involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, an attempt to disable enemy troops using electromagnetic radiation.
• CHICKEN LITTLE: Dan Smith, civilian UFO research/volunteer liaison with Ronald Pandolfi.

Last Updated on Monday, 02 May 2011 12:41

 

[Bunson]

hmmmm.... picturing Alexander with a monicle and top hat......

 

[bbridges]

The Aviary, a group of supposed insiders given bird names as a means of identification, most, if not all of their information turned out to be disinformation and was the basis for the famous UFO Coverup Live television program in 1988. Most of them have been identified as members of various government and military organizations. What do I win?

List of Aviary Members
Written by Grant Cameron
Friday, 29 April 2011 14:46

• BLUE JAY: Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, MD, Ph.D; Chief, Biomedical Sciences Department, General Motors, former head of the CIA's UFO files at the "Weird Desk."
• SEA GULL: Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D., research scientist in optical physics and laser weapons applications at the U.S. Naval Surface Weapons Lab, Maryland; MUFON physics/photo-interpretive consultant.
• PELICAN: Ron Pandolfi, CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and Technology and current custodian of UFO files at the "Weird Desk"; may be involved in the White House initiative to promptly release UFO information to the public.
• OWL: Hal Puthoff, physicist with the Institute for Advanced Research in Austin, Texas, who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a quantum/resonance physics phenomenon with reported potential for above-unity ("free") energy.
• PENGUIN: John Alexander, Ph.D, Lt. Col. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command Col.
• HAWK: Ernie Kellerstrauss, security cleared for UFO information; worked at Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1970s and reportedly lived with an extraterrestrial for a while.
• CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with the Office of Naval intelligence and other agencies; 30 years service in U.S. intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and other organizations; former aide to Sen. Clairborne Pell, who had had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
• CONDOR: Capt. Bob Collins, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, engaged in UFO-related intelligence operations, reportedly appeared clandestinely on the 1988 television program "UFO Cover-Up Live"
• FALCON: Many have fingered Sgt. Richard "Dick" Doty, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations; reported to have engaged in UFO disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Howe concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. and allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque defense electronic contractor Paul Bennewitz. The actual Falcon was a DIA agent with a Slavic name who died in 2001. Only Bill Moore and Greg Bishop know who this person is as far as we know.
• SPARROW: Richard Doty
• RAVEN: (Identity not yet determined – actually may be two different ones.) One raven may have been Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special department. Second RAVEN appears to be a kingpin. Jamie Shandera dealt with him.
• PARTRIDGE?: Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., formerly an astrophysicist with GEPAN, the French Government’s UFO investigative agency, later moved to U.S. as principal investigator with Defense Department computer network projects; worked with famed astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek author on UFO subject.
• Jack Vorona (bird name unknown) - Vorona was apparently the most covert of all the Birds. He was believed to have been a liaison between Capitol Hill and Los Alamos. Was once involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, an attempt to disable enemy troops using electromagnetic radiation.
• CHICKEN LITTLE: Dan Smith, civilian UFO research/volunteer liaison with Ronald Pandolfi.

Last Updated on Monday, 02 May 2011 12:41

Now, just bring me the head of the Medusa, and you win the the kingdom and the princess .Actually, a most helpful presentation, and moreover, sets the background for the appearance of the COM-12 material, and MY. Once again I thank you for so generously answering my supplication, O, Shadow of the Mouse in the Second Moon. As winner you are entitled to treat yourself plus one to a couple of weeks in Hawaii, or the vacation destination of your dreams, of course.