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Supersize me documentary
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thefoundryman
chrono-synclastically infundibulated
I love the bonus material, about the fries sitting in that glass container for 10 weeks and they still look the same as the day they were bought.
Gareth
Nothin' to see here
Yeah I know. Scary stuff.
I actually havent eaten McDonalds for a few months, and on Saturday I grabbed some nuggets because I was starving. I had one in the car without any sauce and literally all I could taste was fat.
It was fricken disgusting. Apparently those nuggets are some of the worst food that M's sell.
I actually havent eaten McDonalds for a few months, and on Saturday I grabbed some nuggets because I was starving. I had one in the car without any sauce and literally all I could taste was fat.
It was fricken disgusting. Apparently those nuggets are some of the worst food that M's sell.
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Paul Kimball
Guest
I'm sorry, but to call this a documentary does a disservive to people who make real documentaries. This was a publicity stunt. What did we learn? That MacDonalds is bad for you when eaten in excess? Well, d'uh. Even MacDonalds will admit that.
Stillborn
Skilled Investigator
Dunno, I didn't watch it all yet, only part of it. I got hungry watching it and stopped to go eat.
The doc's were wrong and didn't know how bad off the guy would be btw. That is if this is the same guy I read about. So even educated people on health, or at least disease, did learn from it I gather.
I didn't learn much from your documentary btw. I think I saw one of them. It was still enjoyable.
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Paul Kimball
Guest
I doubt that very much.
Fair enough. I've always maintained that my films do a disservice to doc makers, but networks keep giving me money to make more. Who am I to say no?
Chuckleberryfinn
Paranormal Maven
Kimball, have you ever given serious thought to making a mockumentary? A UFO mockumentary, maybe. Wait, Mr. Vaeni made one of those already.
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Paul Kimball
Guest
Greg Bishop, Mac Tonnies and I were having a drink once in LA, and we started discussing the idea of hoaxing a UFO incident and filming it, and people's reactions to it, as sort of a real-life mockumentary. I could certainly do such a thing - I have the tech know-how and the necessary equipment to do a good job of it. And it would be fun, in a sense. But then, after a chuckle, we all decided that most ufologists do a pretty good job of unknowingly making fun of themselves, so we decided against it.
For now.
Besides, somebody already beat me to the hoaxing stuff with MJ-12.
Seriously, though, I've never really been a fan of mockumentaries, with the notable exception of This is Spinal Tap, so it's not something I would ever consider as a film project.
Kevin Daly
Skilled Investigator
Greg Bishop, Mac Tonnies and I were having a drink once in LA, and we started discussing the idea of hoaxing a UFO incident and filming it, and people's reactions to it, as sort of a real-life mockumentary. I could certainly do such a thing - I have the tech know-how and the necessary equipment to do a good job of it. And it would be fun, in a sense. But then, after a chuckle, we all decided that most ufologists do a pretty good job of unknowingly making fun of themselves, so we decided against it.
For now.
Besides, somebody already beat me to the hoaxing stuff with MJ-12.
Seriously, though, I've never really been a fan of mockumentaries, with the notable exception of This is Spinal Tap, so it's not something I would ever consider as a film project.
Peter Jackson and Costa Botes put one together back in the 90's called Forgotten Silver, about a supposed pioneering New Zealand film maker. When I realised it was a hoax I burst out laughing (especially since it featured a set of very convenient coincidences, and played heavily on our national pride/smugness - mine included), but some people were very much not amused: as we all know, people who take themselves too seriously hate being made to look foolish. But anyway, that's definitely one of my favourites.
You should catch Jeremy's if you haven't seen it already. It's a bit of a laugh at least. UFOlogy desperately needs a sense of the ridiculous, if only to deflate the never-ending stream of self-important jackassses making money out of spouting any old shit to the multitudes who never, ever ask themselves "is this likely?".
paraschtick
Paragilmorian guy
Here in New Zealand, MacDonalds really push the healthly aspects of their meals in a big way. They constantly mention how the meat is from cows grown organically, how the vegetables are really green and vegetabley
... the buns are harvested in non-GM happy ways etc etc etc ... If I was ever to eat a SuperWhopperBurgerReallyBigMcMeal or whatever, I'm sure my insides would sing a wee song.However, I think the damage has already been done, and they can push the healthy aspects of their meals until the're blue in the face. I don't really think anyone believes any of it (un)fortunately (??).
And as an addendum, check these out:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/03/whitecaps_fifth_third_burger_n.html
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Video-Fif...-At-Michigan-Whitecaps-Home-Opener-Blog-22100
You American Earthlings surely can pack away the food
... at least you're good at something I guess 
thanks for posting this, I have been wanting to watch this for some time now and I'll watch it this week. I havn't eaten at McDonalds in about 20 years. My girlfriend and I used to frequent Micky D's every week. One night we drove through the drive thru and then parked in a spot in the parking lot to eat. It was kinda dark but we could see with light from parking lot lights and nearby businesses. I took a bite and thought it wasn't very good and then another to make sure. She did the same and said she didn't want it. I turned on the interior and both were Raw, Raw, RAW inside! I took it back in, stood in line and when I got to the cashier/supervisor woman I said a few choice words and opened the box (they came in a styrofoam container then, not sure about now) and let everyone see it standing in line. She snatched that thing outta my hand faster than you could blink. I thought the Flash came through or something. She threw it under the counter and immediately ...I mean immediately put on that stupid ass fake big smile and said "welcome to Mc'Donald's, how can I help you?" I think everyone just sort of stood there looking at her, each other and me and was ...WTF? I just walked out.
thetruthisoutthere
Skilled Investigator
Wow talk about weird, I have never been a really big fan of Micky D's either but do go there every once in awhile and never had an experience like that if I had I don't think I would ever go back. Raw burger ugh.
Stillborn
Skilled Investigator
I just got done, with two family members, watching the whole documentary, or show, movie, whatever you want to call it. We all enjoyed it and learned from it things we didn't know before, and for that which we did know, we learned in greater detail.
It seems this documentary/show is what I read about. Doctors learned from it.
It seems this documentary/show is what I read about. Doctors learned from it.
bsvalley
paranormal master
just curious. who do you feel the "publicity stunt" was for? I guess I'm a little slow. I thought all documentaries were some what of a publicity stunt to draw attention to a cause or certain subject. I guess I don't understand your objection and assumption that everyone already knows all of the facts that they put forth in the movie. And can you please layout the proper format for a "real documentary" for those of us that don't know what we should be looking for in a "real one". And I'm saying all of this in the nicest tone.:
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Paul Kimball
Guest
just curious. who do you feel the "publicity stunt" was for? I guess I'm a little slow. I thought all documentaries were some what of a publicity stunt to draw attention to a cause or certain subject. I guess I don't understand your objection and assumption that everyone already knows all of the facts that they put forth in the movie. And can you please layout the proper format for a "real documentary" for those of us that don't know what we should be looking for in a "real one". And I'm saying all of this in the nicest tone.:
What I'm saying is that it was a rigged show, and that's not a documentary - it's a propaganda piece, a stunt, designed for one purpose, to further the stuntmaker's career. Understood on those terms, it's been tremendously successful, and I respect him as a business person because of it; just not as a filmmaker.
And if there is anyone here who seriously believes that there were intelligent people who walked out of Supersize Me saying, "wow, I had no idea", then I have some swamp land to sell you.
A real documentary should tell us something about the human condition, or provide us with information that we didn't know, or encourage us to think about something in a new way. Supersize Me did none of those things. If it's a documentary, then Jerry Springer is a news broadcast.
A real doc:
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Paul Kimball
Guest
Well, thank goodness for personal opinion, and agreeing to disagree.
I make docs for a living (as well as other types of programs and films), and I respect them, and the people that make them. That's why it irks me to see something like Supersize Me called a doc - don't get me started on some of Michael Moore's propaganda pieces, or Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth (which won an Oscar for pete's sake!). There's nothing wrong with making stuff like that (I quite enjoyed AIT, on its own terms, as the world's most expensive powerpoint presentation), but to consider them documentaries diminishes the work of real documentarians, which sadly often goes unnoticed by the general public at large.
Raise your hands - how many people saw Sicko? How many saw Fog of War? One was a true doc, and one was a philippic. There is a difference.
And that's all I'll say about this, because we're talking from different perspectives.
Xylo
Paranormal Adept
Agreed.
Funny how people take this literally.
ETA: I saw Sicko, I thought it was a sensationalized piece.
bsvalley
paranormal master
I do know what you do for a living. I've seen it in plenty of other posts.
I have a question for you, And I'm not being snotty or sarcastic.
When I used to paint houses for a living, (interior and exterior), It would almost always be the first thing I would look at when I was someplace else.
To this day if I'm in a new building I tend to look at the vynal and examine it to see if I can see the seams or if the walls are painted I would look for flashing.
Would you say that your career helps you to form opinions of others work, and to someone like me ( the untrained eye) i'm not really looking for the "seams" in their work. I'm just watching it. And that is ok. And by the way. I am a fan of yours and I like your stuff, too.
I am also wondering what a philipic is. Is that a real term or am I just slow on the uptake again? lol
every thing I say is coming out wrong now because I think your taking it with malace, And seriously that is not how I am meaning it.