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Tentative Inspection Program Would Allow Russia to Visit U.S. Nuclear Sites

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How is it ironic?

Think about what we are talking about. It's about seeking openess and transparenty between nations. You seem to be content with the way things have been for so long. US calling the shots and crying fowl when they are held accountable to the same rules. Look were this country stands right now in the eyes of the world. It is not looked at with respect. It is not trusted and needs to do all it can to rebuild that trust and respect it once had. Well planned out inspections are a good start to show willingness and cooperation with other nations.
To sum up.. Seek the truth.
John.
 
There is number of different scenarios that could wipe out the human race, with nuclear weapons being just one of those, Some people say we need them for defense, ya right, what will you be defending, when the mushrooms clouds have stopped. Nothing, full stop. Nuclear weapons are build by paranoid nations, who have little or no respect for those who have no interest in such weapons, and wish to remain nuclear free, i think if we put it to the people of the world in a vote, we would have a nuclear free world by now. Greenpeace i am with ya.
 
I don't think that the threat of state sponsored nuclear (not nuke-u-lar) weapons is a high threat, even in the hands of Iran, or other non-US friendly nations.

The main concern should be on the left-over-from-the-cold-war nukes that are out there. The lone nutjob is more dangerous than the rogue government.

So the US opens up some of it's facilities to being inspected. So what? Does that compromise the defense capabilities of the nation? Hardly.

What it does do is offend some of those that think that the USA is above the standard that it holds everyone else to. Big fucking deal. The US has to do something to get back in the graces of the world. If it means opening up a few facilities so that inspectors can comment upon shiny floors, look at a few gauges, press a few buttons and absorb a few hundred (thousand) rads while they do it...I don't see a problem with it.

If the inspectors see something that they're not supposed to see, don't worry, the CIA will disappear them off to Syria, or Jordan or Egypt-where they won't be tortured.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...ion-program-allow-russia-visit-nuclear-sites/

Tell me this is just a bad dream!!

Whose side is this administration on?

Um, that's what necessarily happens in the dealings between grown-up countries. And that is how you build trust and hopefully move us away at last from the nightmare we grew up with.
Get over it.

Or do you imagine the US (since after all, you own the world) has the right to demand intrusive inspections of everyone else's nuclear facilities with no reciprocation?
 
Think about what we are talking about. It's about seeking openess and transparenty between nations. You seem to be content with the way things have been for so long. US calling the shots and crying fowl when they are held accountable to the same rules. Look were this country stands right now in the eyes of the world. It is not looked at with respect. It is not trusted and needs to do all it can to rebuild that trust and respect it once had. Well planned out inspections are a good start to show willingness and cooperation with other nations.
To sum up.. Seek the truth.
John.

So we opened up to Russia, we backed off building the missile-defense sheild in Europe to a great disappointment of many of our allies and what happened as a result? We got the middle finger from Putin. Why doesn't he show some good faith and give us some support on santions on Iran, at least? Or does it only go one way? We become transparent, capitulate to their demands and what do they have to show for it? In order to build trust it needs to go both ways, otherwise it's an exercise in futility and a dangerous one at that.

I'm all for transpency and cooperation but let's first think of who we're dealing with here and apply some common sense. Wishful thinking is not going to get us far, in fact, it's going to get us destroyed. Just look at the history of the world.

Repect in the world? It's all a matter of perspective. Some countries hate us because we watch too much porn or we drive big SUVs or we put our women in the position of power. We're never going to make everybody happy. Sure, we've made some mistakes in the past, but the fact of the matter is people still want to come here and live in freedom, while we still have any. Many coutries still look to us for protection whether you like it or not and when shit hits the fan it will be our military doing most of the fighting and dying as they are right now in Iraq and Afghanistan. If that doesn't merit respect, I don't know what does.
 
As far as I'm concerned. America cannot act as big brother and world police if they don't offer any sort of transparency.

Also, I'd hardly call Russia or Iran despotic, considering they have elected officials it kind of blows that label out of the water.

And as far as necessity being the mother of the nuke attack on Japan, well, I'd put money down that Roosevelt wouldn't have used it. Truman just wanted the legacy. As if the roughly 70 days of fire bombing on Japan wasn't pounding them into submission already.

220,000 deaths from two bombs. That's one hell of a legacy.

I'm sorry we disagree on this issue truthseeker, but as a Canadian, I wouldn't mind knowing what you guys are doing behind your closed doors. After all, if another cold war starts up (which I don't think will happen) you're going to be sending your ICBM's over my country. Which doesn't bode well with me.

The track records of USA and Russia are more similar than you let yourself believe, and as far as I'm concerned, I don't trust either of your governments. And that isn't an insult to the people of America or Russia, just a matter of opinion that you actually have no control over what your government does.

Just remember, how noble would Kennedy have been if the Cuban missile crisis blew up in your faces? Government penis wagging at it's finest.
 
So we opened up to Russia, we backed off building the missile-defense sheild in Europe to a great disappointment of many of our allies and what happened as a result? We got the middle finger from Putin. Why doesn't he show some good faith and give us some support on santions on Iran, at least? Or does it only go one way? We become transparent, capitulate to their demands and what do they have to show for it? In order to build trust it needs to go both ways, otherwise it's an exercise in futility and a dangerous one at that.

I'm all for transpency and cooperation but let's first think of who we're dealing with here and apply some common sense. Wishful thinking is not going to get us far, in fact, it's going to get us destroyed. Just look at the history of the world.

Repect in the world? It's all a matter of perspective. Some countries hate us because we watch too much porn or we drive big SUVs or we put our women in the position of power. We're never going to make everybody happy. Sure, we've made some mistakes in the past, but the fact of the matter is people still want to come here and live in freedom, while we still have any. Many coutries still look to us for protection whether you like it or not and when shit hits the fan it will be our military doing most of the fighting and dying as they are right now in Iraq and Afghanistan. If that doesn't merit respect, I don't know what does.

I guess we can agree to disagree Truthseeker.
Cheers John.
 
Also, I'd hardly call Russia or Iran despotic, considering they have elected officials it kind of blows that label out of the water.

Not really sure I can go along with Achminejad being called "an elected official" seeing as the exit polls clearly indicated he lost...but yeah, I guess so...:rolleyes:

Truthseeker, I understand that you think these inspections are unfair and disclose too much to those governments that do not agree, nor necessarily like the USA. But the truth is, the overwhelming majority of the world feels that the USA is and has been an interloper in places where it does not belong. Like it or not, the face of the world has changed, and with it the role that the USA should be playing in it. Yet many Americans think it should be "business as usual" and that is most certainly NOT the case.

There are no nations that would openly attack the USA-that would be quite stupid and most certainly detrimental to their health. On the other hand, the USA has a great deal of domestic issues that it needs to solve. Rattling sabers isn't a great way to solve those problems. In fact, a modicum of modesty, might just be the way to temper some of the international issues so that the USA can work on it's internal issues.

Just food for thought.
 
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