The Anti-Christ =D

[plumbbob12]

Ok, I see the issue here. The confusion.
Western Christianity as it relates to the idea of a conscience universe, and all that would imply. When I speak about the idea of “God”, I am not envisioning the concept of an old bearded guy who has “mood swings”. The idea that the universe has intelligence is a very complex subject, and has little to do with cultural mythology. This is kind of throwing out the baby with the bath water. Cheers

 

[Ron Collins]

Bingo. These are human stories created by human beings. The real truth that glares out at us from religious and UFO/paranormal myth and legend is that neither contains anything that can be truly characterized as non-human or alien. The content and sources are all very human in nature.

In regards to religion, I totally agree. In regards to the UFO phenomenon, I somewhat agree. We can confirm with technology that tangible objects do things that are technologically inconceivable. These things are not only manifestations of perception but have mass and apparent technological makeup. Sure the argument can be made that humans are capable of constructing technological objects. But I would counter that argument by saying that the displayed characteristics can be as much an indicator of non-human construction as anything when compared to the current known state of the art technology. Also, if one looks at the technical evolution of aircraft and were to extrapolate a flight characteristic achievement curve it would most likely indicate a massive gap from known to observed characteristics. Simply put, We aren't there yet and most likely will not be for some time. Thus, another explanation is needed.

Why have we not found items belonging to the craft? Some will argue that we have. Others that we havn't. I have been a pilot for 16 years. Not once have I observers bolts, screws, or debris fall from an aircraft while in flight. I think it is just a rare occurrence.[/QUOTE]

---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 PM ----------

Ok, I see the issue here. The confusion.
Western Christianity as it relates to the idea of a conscience universe, and all that would imply. When I speak about the idea of “God”, I am not envisioning the concept of an old bearded guy who has “mood swings”. The idea that the universe has intelligence is a very complex subject, and has little to do with cultural mythology. This is kind of throwing out the baby with the bath water. Cheers

I dont have a problem with your thinking. But the thread specifically deals with the antichrist. That sort of confines the discussion a bit.

 

[trainedobserver]

These things are not only manifestations of perception but have mass and apparent technological makeup. Sure the argument can be made that humans are capable of constructing technological objects. But I would counter that argument by saying that the displayed characteristics can be as much an indicator of non-human construction as anything when compared to the current known state of the art technology.

Good points. I am still really cautious when saying what "the state of the art" actually is or might actually be. I don't think that is commonly known. Granted Cooper and other pilots "in the know" about what the state of the art was, saw objects that defied explanation as "secret projects."

I have been a pilot for 16 years. Not once have I observers bolts, screws, or debris fall from an aircraft while in flight. I think it is just a rare occurrence.

Well, there are parts and bits of technology laying all over this planet however from our comings and goings. It only stands to reason that if non-human technology was being used on this planet that over time some debris would be created. This goes beyond the idea of Roswell or what have you. If "millions" are being abducted, if UFOs have been flying around for 1000s of years, if all that business is true it only seems reasonable that debris of various sorts that would be remarkably "alien" would be found by the general populace over time. I think there is some cause to think so.

 

[exo_doc]

I cannot believe you put that sentence into a thread that has "Antichrist" in the title. We're talking the supernatural boogie-man of all space and time in some flavors of Christianity. Little things like reason, logic, and facts are more relevant to an episode of I Love Lucy than to this subject for Pete's sake.

---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:10 AM ----------

(smacks forehead) WHAT was I thinking?
Nope, actually I was trying to make a point about keeping things on topic, and not devolve into emotional rants, but yeah, you're right.

 

[Xzorter]

There is a thinking that goes like " If you expect to begin to understand and comprehend the supernatural or unearthly (spiritual realm) ,one has to be changed(somehow) to an unearthly(spiritual) dimension,consciousness or receptivity). The challenge and quest for some is to somehow be transformed in the dimension they receive understanding.I don't know...meditation ,or some way to be unearthly.I have witnessed someone who had stepped into a dimension of the "spirit" that they had begun to defy the "natural or earthly ) laws

 

[trainedobserver]

I have witnessed someone who had stepped into a dimension of the "spirit" that they had begun to defy the "natural or earthly ) laws

I have witnessed many who claimed such but the evidence that they could indeed "defy natural or earthly law" wasn't forthcoming. At the time, I "believed" myself and certainly "wanted" them to be able to perform as advertised.

---------- Post added at 09:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:51 PM ----------

Nope, actually I was trying to make a point about keeping things on topic, and not devolve into emotional rants, but yeah, you're right.

I can just see Lucy hysterically pronouncing the coming Antichrist to Fred and Ethel's Amen corner while Ricky clings to the sofa with a look of terror on his face. It makes perfect sense in that light.

 

[vonmazur]

Just who is this Andy Khrist guy anyhow, and what is all hoopla about??? (That was the name of a guy I knew in the Army, along with the best one of all...E. Robert Bales!! We tortured him for that moniker!!) Go figure!

Dale

 

[Kieran]

Anti-Christ, is so self explanatory, separate the words you should be able to figure out what it means without having to research it. From the posts I read CapnG Explained the meaning behind it best. I do however disagree with the belief everything in the Bible is all wrong. Thats not entirely true, but then again and here lies the problem, it was put out there as a Rule book for a particular mindset of people to follow, embrace a certain vision of the way forward. There is evidence outside of the Bible as another poster wrote that peoples spoke about in the Bible once existed, the problem with the bible accounts, well there is no way of telling if the version of those peoples histories actually happened without concrete evidence and Archaeological evidence to confirm. And I like said the Bible was written for a particular viewpoint, so anything Alien to that viewpoint in my view, was either changed or left out all together. While I say it not entirely true the Bible stories are all wrong, you can't literally as well believe any of the stories are correct either, it's a real dilemma.

 

[zeno]

So are you saying that you believe julian assange has a large sword and this what got him in trouble with those two swedish girls?

 

[vonmazur]

I wonder if this "Auntie Christ" is related to another "Auntie", the one that always spots tiny arachnids....?

Dale

 

[dyingsun]

I love 'Slayer' a great deal, no Antichrist on the Horizon it seems, 'Matreya' might save you...

---------- Post added at 06:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:38 AM ----------

 

[pixelsmith]

I see your Slayer and raise you a GWAR
Christmas With GwarVideo

 

[Slim Shady]

Dear god close it , close this thread =(

 

[tyder001]

It has certainly outlived it's usefullness.

 

[plumbbob12]

I took about 10 mins and perused the replies to Anti-Christ link, and I think we are all missing a splendid opportunity. Of course, at this point, we have corrupted the seen, so to speak. My interest as a closet sociologist is to understand the faith mind set. After all, faith built the world, and not science. Faith won wars. Faith sent us to the moon. Faith built the pyramids. Science and mathematics were the tools, but faith was the impetus. If you do not understand this, then you do not understand why EBE’s are so interested in us. Just because most folks on this link think that Christianity is quaint, does not mean that it does not have power to motivate humans. I have attempted all my life to understand the idea of blind faith, and have not succeeded yet, and maybe never will, but the last thing I would do is make fun of it. zp<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
<o> </o>

 

[Jeff Crowell]

I was going to reply, but after scanning through the posts I think most are right; this thread's run it's course.

 

[trainedobserver]

Just because most folks on this link think that Christianity is quaint, does not mean that it does not have power to motivate humans.

Oh yeah, fear and superstition motivating human beings to do all sorts of wonderful things, like lying, cheating, murder, torture, the glorification of human sacrifice, etc., etc. How quaint indeed.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Yup - this thread has become useless.