The Pair of Cats
a.k.a Philip Deane
Let's just say that Steven Bassett's fondest wish comes true and disclosure of some kind occurs. What happens next??
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The Day After Disclosure: What Next???
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Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
I stick my tongue out at my mom and say, neener neener I told you so.
What happens after that depends on what is disclosed.
What happens after that depends on what is disclosed.
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schticknz
Guest
I have no idea what will happen ... but I do know that Steve Bassett will be wrong on every account, thats a given.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
He'd be wrong if there's disclosure? I'm confused.
I haven't listened to the latest interview of him. Maybe your remark will make sense once I do. Or after I get some sleep. Been up awhile.
schticknz said:
He'd be wrong if there's disclosure? I'm confused.
I haven't listened to the latest interview of him. Maybe your remark will make sense once I do. Or after I get some sleep. Been up awhile.
cottonzway
I was saying boo-urns
Fake Alien invasion to take away more rights and spend more money on military items IMO.
Michael L.
Coffee swillin' Devil's advocate
As I am listening to the last Stephen Bassett interview at the moment and they are discussing this at this very moment, I would like to ask why Mr. Bassett and Mr. Biedny feel that, particularly given "free energy," the Earth is incapable of supporting the current population?
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ArizonaWill
Guest
I agree with the other person who said it would really depend on WHAT is disclosed. I immediately think of the stock market, which is always as jumpy as a virgin surrounded by "frisky" sailers who've been at sea for a year.
To most people, who never give ufo's or aliens a moment's thought, except for occasional entertainment (e.g., Independence Day), this would take time to digest. I am seeking an analogy. It would be like finding out that all the dogs on the planet have a superior intellect than humankind, and have been humoring us for the free room and board. (That's the best I could come up with - something just outlandish).
Depending on WHAT is revealed, things would go on as before, or people would become terrified. Think of this: airlines are having a horrible time surviving in the USA (thanks, deregulation!!), but what would happen to them if the public realized that our airlines shared the airspace with alien craft? I suspect a lot of folks would be afraid to fly again.
To most people, who never give ufo's or aliens a moment's thought, except for occasional entertainment (e.g., Independence Day), this would take time to digest. I am seeking an analogy. It would be like finding out that all the dogs on the planet have a superior intellect than humankind, and have been humoring us for the free room and board. (That's the best I could come up with - something just outlandish).
Depending on WHAT is revealed, things would go on as before, or people would become terrified. Think of this: airlines are having a horrible time surviving in the USA (thanks, deregulation!!), but what would happen to them if the public realized that our airlines shared the airspace with alien craft? I suspect a lot of folks would be afraid to fly again.
Raevenskye
Seer of All Things Spooky
I'm going to Disneyland! hehe
I think prob there'd be a certain amount of hysteria..suicides...chaos from those who just CAN'T grasp it, and there would be those on the other side: embracing our galactic bretheren, ready to become children of light. As long as we weren't being roasted alive or herded into cattle trucks, things would eventually settle into business as usual.
I think prob there'd be a certain amount of hysteria..suicides...chaos from those who just CAN'T grasp it, and there would be those on the other side: embracing our galactic bretheren, ready to become children of light. As long as we weren't being roasted alive or herded into cattle trucks, things would eventually settle into business as usual.
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ArizonaWill
Guest
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
What free energy? This is just a term like Hoagland's Hyperdimensional Physics. It sounds cool but it is all theory at this time. Every single day, 40,000 children die of starvation on planet Earth. This is FACT! There are many reasons for this, and we cannot just blame planet Earth. Nonetheless, let's just say that at the current time, the current population is not being supported. Every day there is a die-off of 40,000 children (don't know how many adults) and they are replaced by the new born, like cells in a body.
So far free energy and hyperdimensional physics have had no effect on the rising price of bread and other groceries. In some countries, there are even riots over food prices. In Haiti, people are eating cookies made of dirt and paste. THIS is the reality in 2008, not free energy, my friend. :frown:
Michael L. said:
What free energy? This is just a term like Hoagland's Hyperdimensional Physics. It sounds cool but it is all theory at this time. Every single day, 40,000 children die of starvation on planet Earth. This is FACT! There are many reasons for this, and we cannot just blame planet Earth. Nonetheless, let's just say that at the current time, the current population is not being supported. Every day there is a die-off of 40,000 children (don't know how many adults) and they are replaced by the new born, like cells in a body.
So far free energy and hyperdimensional physics have had no effect on the rising price of bread and other groceries. In some countries, there are even riots over food prices. In Haiti, people are eating cookies made of dirt and paste. THIS is the reality in 2008, not free energy, my friend. :frown:
truthseeker
Paranormal Maven
I don't think that disclosure would have much of an impact. Yes, there might be some sense of excitement or fear at first, but altimately, sooner than later people would forget and go back to what really matters to them: paying the bills or reading about Britney Spears' panties or lack thereof.
Mothra
Oh, I see what you did there
Disclosure will divide and challenge people from all walks of life. Half the people will want to kill them because they are deemed evil. The rest of the population which includes scientists, scholars and the rest of the dregs of society will now half to question the events of everything we've ever learned.
There will be no disclosure. Ever. Financial markets, Most religions (Excluding Mormons, Scientology, and probably someCatholics.) Would fall. Ya know the created in Gods image thing? If they look different then they are open to attacks by zealots.
Mankind is so arrogant.Don't think for a second that these being would want to interact with the common man. Its quite possible that there hasn't been a disclosure because our space brothers don't want us knowing about them.
There will be no disclosure. Ever. Financial markets, Most religions (Excluding Mormons, Scientology, and probably someCatholics.) Would fall. Ya know the created in Gods image thing? If they look different then they are open to attacks by zealots.
Mankind is so arrogant.Don't think for a second that these being would want to interact with the common man. Its quite possible that there hasn't been a disclosure because our space brothers don't want us knowing about them.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
I think disclosure might happen if the "aliens" crash in NY city during the daytime. Or the Superbowl. Not sure swamp gas explanation would work there. They might come clean then.
Michael L.
Coffee swillin' Devil's advocate
Fastwalker,
The free energy was in reference to the discussion in the show where Bassett and Biedny were stating that even with free energy that the planet could not support our current population. It has little to do with my question, though. Where is this assumption that the planet cannot support the current population from, what is the basis? Sure, people are starving every day. I am not at all arguing that the population is being supported but with the assertion that it cannot be supported. Why do we assume that this is anything more than a political problem? After all, I heard the same thing stated as fact when there were 5 billion people... and 4 billion. I'd like a reference I can examine, a real study and not just something stated as obvious or a fact (even in caps) without support because I have to admit that to me it is not obvious in the least.
The free energy was in reference to the discussion in the show where Bassett and Biedny were stating that even with free energy that the planet could not support our current population. It has little to do with my question, though. Where is this assumption that the planet cannot support the current population from, what is the basis? Sure, people are starving every day. I am not at all arguing that the population is being supported but with the assertion that it cannot be supported. Why do we assume that this is anything more than a political problem? After all, I heard the same thing stated as fact when there were 5 billion people... and 4 billion. I'd like a reference I can examine, a real study and not just something stated as obvious or a fact (even in caps) without support because I have to admit that to me it is not obvious in the least.
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schticknz
Guest
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
I mean any of his predictions of what disclosure will bring will be wrong ... I think thats what I meant
Paranormal Packrat said:
I mean any of his predictions of what disclosure will bring will be wrong ... I think thats what I meant
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schticknz
Guest
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
I'm not entirely sure that the great bulk of the human race would take any notice if aliens crashed into NY or wherever. In the new series of Doctor Who, an alien space ship crashes into Big Ben, and later on I think its mentioned that a great swathe of people thought it was something totally mundane.
As the good Doctor says, there's a war going on around us but we're too stupid to even realise
Paranormal Packrat said:
I'm not entirely sure that the great bulk of the human race would take any notice if aliens crashed into NY or wherever. In the new series of Doctor Who, an alien space ship crashes into Big Ben, and later on I think its mentioned that a great swathe of people thought it was something totally mundane.
As the good Doctor says, there's a war going on around us but we're too stupid to even realise
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
If it messed up their hair, or the outcome of a sports game, people would take notice. And the intergalactic/stellar/dimensional war would begin.
schticknz said:Paranormal Packrat said:
I'm not entirely sure that the great bulk of the human race would take any notice if aliens crashed into NY or wherever. In the new series of Doctor Who, an alien space ship crashes into Big Ben, and later on I think its mentioned that a great swathe of people thought it was something totally mundane.
As the good Doctor says, there's a war going on around us but we're too stupid to even realise
If it messed up their hair, or the outcome of a sports game, people would take notice. And the intergalactic/stellar/dimensional war would begin.
Michael L.
Coffee swillin' Devil's advocate
Why is everyone so content to be miserable? Have your lives all been so terrible that you only can see the dark side of things? That must, on a day to day basis, blow.
Religion, by and large, has survived the advent of science. People like to declare X and Y about fundamentalists or the religious in general, but the truth is that many, many (probably most) people of faith are also believers in science... churches build hospitals even if the odd faith healer gets more press! Not everyone takes the Bible literally! If people can accept that the world was not created in 7 days or that evolution is responsible for the state of life on Earth, why not that there are other worlds and other lifeforms? Many religious groups (such as Buddhists or various Hindu groups) may just be like "Yeah, no kidding" and keep going on like nothing happened. Besides, who is to say that the aliens don't land and announce their belief in one religion of another. That is the oft missed twist at the end of Plan 9, after all, that the aliens were sent by God!
And people are resilient. So are cultures. As a person of Native American descent, I can't help but notice we are still around. Many of us still adhere to the old traditions and beliefs. After all, meeting Europeans, discovering there were other peoples and other ways we did not previously imagine did not destroy our cultures or institutions, it was the pestilence and violence they brought. Assuming that the aliens are not here to turn us all into sewage plant workers on some other world or eat us, then we will probably go on... It may be a blow to our ego but, well, many countries that were once top of the food chain have survived their fall from power (UK, France and probably, unfortunately, very soon the US).
Don't most people already believe in extraterrestrials? Or is that just flying saucers? Either way, once they are proven correct, the institutions that are going to tumble would be those who have vehemently denied their existence. Religion is not going to look nearly as underdeveloped when weighed against that shiny spaceship as science will. It doesn't prove that there is not a god or even God but, if it just traveled 5000 light years it is going to poke a few holes in physics textbooks.
Just some thoughts while I wait for my coffee to warm up.
Religion, by and large, has survived the advent of science. People like to declare X and Y about fundamentalists or the religious in general, but the truth is that many, many (probably most) people of faith are also believers in science... churches build hospitals even if the odd faith healer gets more press! Not everyone takes the Bible literally! If people can accept that the world was not created in 7 days or that evolution is responsible for the state of life on Earth, why not that there are other worlds and other lifeforms? Many religious groups (such as Buddhists or various Hindu groups) may just be like "Yeah, no kidding" and keep going on like nothing happened. Besides, who is to say that the aliens don't land and announce their belief in one religion of another. That is the oft missed twist at the end of Plan 9, after all, that the aliens were sent by God!
And people are resilient. So are cultures. As a person of Native American descent, I can't help but notice we are still around. Many of us still adhere to the old traditions and beliefs. After all, meeting Europeans, discovering there were other peoples and other ways we did not previously imagine did not destroy our cultures or institutions, it was the pestilence and violence they brought. Assuming that the aliens are not here to turn us all into sewage plant workers on some other world or eat us, then we will probably go on... It may be a blow to our ego but, well, many countries that were once top of the food chain have survived their fall from power (UK, France and probably, unfortunately, very soon the US).
Don't most people already believe in extraterrestrials? Or is that just flying saucers? Either way, once they are proven correct, the institutions that are going to tumble would be those who have vehemently denied their existence. Religion is not going to look nearly as underdeveloped when weighed against that shiny spaceship as science will. It doesn't prove that there is not a god or even God but, if it just traveled 5000 light years it is going to poke a few holes in physics textbooks.
Just some thoughts while I wait for my coffee to warm up.
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
The Day After DisclosuWhat Next???
It does but what can you do? It's not our fault if the dark side and the realistic side tend to overlap most of the time.
Neither. Most people will think you're at the very least a bit odd if you talk about such things. Some become downright hostile. You're giving people in general far more credit then they deserve.
Science can at least tolerate being wrong, however much it may resist. Religions never do.
Michael L. said:
It does but what can you do? It's not our fault if the dark side and the realistic side tend to overlap most of the time.
Michael L. said:
Neither. Most people will think you're at the very least a bit odd if you talk about such things. Some become downright hostile. You're giving people in general far more credit then they deserve.
Michael L. said:
Science can at least tolerate being wrong, however much it may resist. Religions never do.