The Lloyd Pye DNA crusade continues apace. (VIDEO)

[Mogwa]

So what the new test show? Human father? I know the first test showed it had a human mother.

To the best of my knowledge, Aaron, the tests have revealed absolutely nothing to support Lloyd's ET hypothesis. As Tommy has already correctly pointed out, the skull is in pretty bad shape and cannot offer samples of anything other than DNA of the mitochondrial type, and that in very small and damaged quantities. That being so, it seems to me he's literally pounding sand if he wants to prove the father was an "alien."

 

[Aaron LeClair]

To the best of my knowledge, Aaron, the tests have revealed absolutely nothing to support Lloyd's ET hypothesis. As Tommy has already correctly pointed out, the skull is in pretty bad shape and cannot offer samples of anything other than DNA of the mitochondrial type, and that in very small and damaged quantities. That being so, it seems to me he's literally pounding sand if he wants to prove the father was an "alien."

He made it seem like there was only one more test to do and that would end the debate. Oh well. Glad I didn't donate money I guess.

 

[Gareth]

^^ I believe that last test is the 'inconclusive' result. Probably why he has tried 6 times. The tragedy of it all now is that hell never ever ever have closure on this. An inclusive result means he cant be told its not alien, and also that he cant really prove that it is.

Actually come to think of it, I thought he was waiting on more advanced DNA testing techniques to b widely available so he could turn that inconclusive into a positive. Guess it didnt happen.

 

[Artyom]

Do you remember Lloyd words about he doesn't want to make difinitive conclusions and that he would accept ANY explanation? It's hardly believable after watching this video. If I remember correctly he's been expecting for a new DNA analyzing tech to be developed so he could get a hard evidence for it's non-human origin. Not extraterrastial but non-human as Gene and David said million times on the show but I guess that's not enough for people to stop calling non-human intelegent life forms ET-

 

[Aaron LeClair]

Do you remember Lloyd words about he doesn't want to make difinitive conclusions and that he would accept ANY explanation? It's hardly believable after watching this video. If I remember correctly he's been expecting for a new DNA analyzing tech to be developed so he could get a hard evidence for it's non-human origin. Not extraterrastial but non-human as Gene and David said million times on the show but I guess that's not enough for people to stop calling non-human intelegent life forms ET-

You drive on parkways, and park on driveways. I figure that will change first.

 

[trilithium]

I'm glad I found this thread, I just listened to the very first "starchild Show" and was very interested, now I know better. I believe the community before I believe a guest anyday. I'm way behind most of you as far as listening to the shows.

 

[skunkape]

Here's my guess on what it could be.

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[Tommy Allison]

I actually have a few castings of the skull laying around my studio. I should clean a couple up and photograph them. When I did the reconstruction, I contacted a LOT of people to get input. In the end Lloyd called them all hacks and losers. Which I thought was funny considering one of them was his own buddy Doctor David Sweet.

Lloyd's a douche. He pissed me off in ways no old person has. I'm just happy to have the quiet knowledge that when I die, I won't have the word "FRAUD" attached to my name.

 

[David Biedny]

I predict that Pye will fade into obscurity, where he belongs.

dB

 

[Xylo]

Just putting all hatred and angst aside for a couple secs... am I the only one who sees that skull and gets slightly intrigued? The problem is I dont think well ever know one way or the other. Chances are its a deformity but that as far as I can tell a deformity wouldnt affect the knot at the back - just the placement of the features on the face.

And when Pye says he has trouble getting decent analysis due to fear of repercussions form the scientists I find that as a credible statement. But well just never know how much he searches around for the responce hes looking for.

sigh


Just another UFO nutter

I just listened to that back episode and I was less than convinced by Lloyd.

First off: The fact that nuclear DNA was not recoverable does not mean it's conclusively not human. It means the nuclear DNA was not recoverable. That's a conclusion, not a means to inferring a conclusion.

Secondly, the occipital protuberance is not there. However, if you look at the video closely, there is a distinct bulge at the back of the skull where the protuberance would be. So I don't find this nearly as compelling, after seeing the video. (I am by no means an expert, I only had one semester of human anatomy; but I still have my text books on the shelf.) I cannot find a decent shot of the rear of the "starchild" skull for comparison with a known human skull.

After a brief look at the skull I think it looks like a hydrocephalic skull.

Starchild Skull:

There could be any number of possibilities for WHY the skull was deformed in such a manner. I don't think possible alien/starchild lineage is one of them. It looks to me as if there was an inordinate amount of pressure inside the cranial cavity as this individual was growing. That pressure forced the eye sockets outward and downward.

 

[Tommy Allison]

I just listened to that back episode and I was less than convinced by Lloyd.

First off: The fact that nuclear DNA was not recoverable does not mean it's conclusively not human. It means the nuclear DNA was not recoverable. That's a conclusion, not a means to inferring a conclusion.

Secondly, the occipital protuberance is not there. However, if you look at the video closely, there is a distinct bulge at the back of the skull where the protuberance would be. So I don't find this nearly as compelling, after seeing the video. (I am by no means an expert, I only had one semester of human anatomy; but I still have my text books on the shelf.) I cannot find a decent shot of the rear of the "starchild" skull for comparison with a known human skull.

After a brief look at the skull I think it looks like a hydrocephalic skull.

Starchild Skull:

There could be any number of possibilities for WHY the skull was deformed in such a manner. I don't think possible alien/starchild lineage is one of them. It looks to me as if there was an inordinate amount of pressure inside the cranial cavity as this individual was growing. That pressure forced the eye sockets outward and downward.

A Cradle Boarded Hydrocephalic Child was my FIRST thought. My second thought, and probably more correct, was that the child might have been a cradle boarded Progerian Child. Progerian Children have the SAME sort of features, as well as skulls that are nearly identical in shape.

Look up Progerian Children and you'll see what I'm saying.