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The amount of publicly available evidence showing the Clinton campaign and DNC as utterly criminal is shocking. Enough to make Nixon look like he was a mere jaywalker. All in plain site, and becoming more apparent daily.

Yet the public turns a blind eye, completely ignores the evidence right in front of them, drinks the CNN kool-aid, and defends it simply by saying "Donald is a crazed madman", "Donald is a buffoon", etc.

If both sides are so horrible I don't understand why people don't band together and vote for someone that isn't either. The American public have become malleable sheeple, complacent to choose "A" or "B" only, and frankly deserve Hillary at this point.
 
Ok it's not hard for me to believe that the democrats would use underhanded tactics like in the video posted by pixelsmith.

But Sheriff Clarke is not a Democrat, and he said "it's pitchfork and torches time in America" at least three times in his address at the Trump rally in Green Bay.

I don't want to just take random quotes so have a look for yourself if you didn't see his speech. N.B the youtube account that hosts the video is called "Right Side Broadcasting" (doesn't sound very leftist to me)

(Clarke starts talking ten minutes into the video)




I think the thing that disturbed me the most was when he said about what he could offer to Trump and then listed his qualifications which consisted of being "a fighter" "a brass knuckle a bloody knuckle type of fighter" and a "warrior" put me in the "trenches".

He also says that he is a veteran of elections and that you want the voters to be enraged.

I find it very interesting that he wears a hat which covers his eyes, you can tell a lot from a persons eyes, and them wanting you not to see them is usually a good indicator of them having something to hide.
It is not a coincidence that many of the top professional poker players wear Sunglasses.


I can not imagine the British equivalent, the idea of the head of the Metropolitan police saying something like that, is too improbable to seriously contemplate, maybe this is why I am finding the scenario so difficult to wrap my head around. It is very much outside my experience for a public official to so openly talk in such a way.
Off the record or secretly recorded yes, but at a political rally never.

Such language is highly irresponsible and dangerous, but with your enshrined right of "free speech" I don't think anything can be done about it. We don't have the same "protection" and I suspect that if it had taken place over here Sheriff Clarke would probably be charged with a public order offence.


I think the thing that actually scares me is that people can't seem to see that if you start another civil war, the people lose.
Make no mistake the better organised and equipped side will win, but both sides will pay a huge price, and the first part of that price will be your collective freedom.
People need to engage with politics and make it work for them, resorting to violence isn't going to work, gone are the days of the human body being able to foul up the wheels of the machine, you have to change things from the inside, reprogramming the machine is the only viable option.

As I said before I have a great affection for the American people and I have no leftist or rightist agenda, I hold certain views that disqualify me from either camp but I am not in the middle either.
I think hillary is f.o.s but she is not a threat to the United States.

The saying is: sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
But words can and do hurt, especially ones that incite violence.

The things that are being said are so dangerous it is almost like we have gone back in time.


I remember a thread on this forum where I learned something about "counter culture" (peace and love, hippies, ban the bomb etc) which however much I didn't want to believe changed my thinking forever.
In this thread it was stated that "counter culture" was in part created by enemies of "democracy", this concept was new to me and was like a slap in the face, I had always assumed that people had just had enough of war and wanted something better, it all seemed so nice and kind, how could anybody think that? the trouble is that it would actually make sense to undermine your enemies public support domestically when you are engaged in a "proxy" war.

I am afraid that I see the same thing when I hear about "outside" influences trying to steer the US elections.
A trump victory would destabilise America, but not as much as a trump lead insurrection or coup. Basically the way things are going its a lose, lose for the US.
Now is the time for calm heads, not reactionary divisive words.
 
Our two-party system makes it virtually impossible to allow a third party to win, or even close. Ross Perot did surprisingly well in that respect. Where you can change things is in the primaries, and Bernie Sanders had his chance and didn't quite make it.
 
Hi Jeff I just want to briefly reply now, because sometimes it takes me a while to hammer out a coherent portrayal of my feelings/thoughts, as I tend to think in pictures and stories.

I agree entirely about the way the media operates, it/they are rotten to the core, but I do not agree that they are the enemy, I believe that they are a reflection of us (society) they are in the business of selling newspapers (figure of speech) and will say anything to sell more, but that doesn't mean people have to buy.

Maybe I am too literal, and want to follow things back too far, but when I look at someone like trump, I am reminded of a fraudulent faith healer.

Placebo and Nocebo are real and you wont find a bigger advocate than me of complimentary medicine. (as in alongside conventional medicine)

To go further with my analogy I would describe what I have seen of trump, to the footage I have seen of a faith healer called "Peter Popoff".

What trump and popof do is the same, they use peoples very real problems as a way to separate them from their money or their vote.

Popofs' system worked by getting the people that needed healing to fill out a form detailing themselves and their ailment, trump uses social media to the same end, once armed with this information they pretend to be very insightful, when in reality all they are doing is being told what to say via an earpiece.

popof would go as far as to say throw away your pills, and trump is saying throw away: the best most advanced and fairest system yet devised (Democracy).

Democracy has its pitfalls and its original implementation was a far cry from what we expect today (something like 10% of the Athenian population were eligible to cast a vote) but in its modern form I find it preferable to any of the other alternatives. This may sound strange coming from someone that lives under a monarchy, but the reality is that the people have had the Monarchs ear (well his entire head at one point) for a long time. Somehow we managed to compromise and find a workable system. Yes it is unfair, but so is life.

The Human spirit is irrepressible and we will find joy and happiness regardless of the political situation, it is just a lot easier to do so when you are not constantly looking over your shoulder.

trump is no child playing with matches, he is well aware of the triangle of fire, and very adept at feeding the flames. It only takes a small spark to start a big fire.

I wouldn't burn my house down on the promise of a new better house magically appearing in its place.


I am going to post one "tweet" that for me highlights the madness of the current situation and the way that trumpism has emboldened people to say the most incendiary things, the reason that I have chosen a tweet is that it was #1 voluntarily posted #2 it is in its original form and not "spun" by the mainstream media.

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Just as an aside I noticed that the mob in the picture was very diverse, and was clearly made by a professional artist. I was very interested to find out the origin of the picture and managed to find it via something called "tin eye" the artist is called John Lund and my understanding is that the Sheriff used the image without the proper permissions! (obviously not as serious as inciting violence but still ironic)


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Hi Han,
My point was not that the media is the enemy, rather that's why I stated that they were best summed up as a massively effective hunter for hire. What the media do is create perception for hire Han. The game that I referred to them hunting, *is* perception in mass. Basically, they sell bullshit as long as the sheople are buying.

Most Say Media, Not Russians, Tilting the Election - Rasmussen Reports™

Honestly Han, if you are not fully aware that they only understanding that you really possess with respect to Donald Trump as a human being, and as a candidate for POTUS at this point, is SOLELY based on the external and biased informational sources that you choose to trust, then there is honestly not much else I can say.

I am shocked that Hillaryous doesn't have an absolute zero percentage support base at this point. Facts, and no I did NOT mince my words, certainly not biased political "spin" as many obviously enjoy pretending, have clearly shown her to be nothing short of a treasonous and thoroughly criminal mobster at best. Only a completely blind or mentally deficient human being would not be able to determine at this point, that such an individual as whom Hillaryous has been unequivocally shown to be, would in fact have to be in possession of such an incredibly powerful monetary institution as is the global banking network, just to keep from literally being HUNG in any court of law imaginable, let alone to keep from having a very real price on her head via a "most wanted" posting.

I am absolutely incredulous that so many Americans, can be so blatantly false pride enriched, as to be led around by the pathetic leashes of sheer ignorance that they seem bent on bragging about.
 
This is how Trump’s middle aged, blue collar, under educated, & under employed male followers seemingly roll, as it all fits the pattern to a T.

Three charged in Kansas plot to bomb homes, worship center for Somalis

Not to mention former employees that Trump helped…, right out of their retirement savings.

How Trump's casino bankruptcies screwed his workers out of millions in retirement savings

I’ll take these individuals opinion, as intelligence trumps fervent ignorance.

https://shift.newco.co/an-open-lett...ndidacy-for-president-5bf734c159e4#.ga8sxefx1
 
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@ Gene:
I would love to vote for Gary Johnson. But Johnson has proved himself an uneducated idot. I can't vote for a man who can not name one current world leader! Yes our system is broken. But Gary Johnson is not the cure.

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Honestly Han, if you are not fully aware that they only understanding that you really possess with respect to Donald Trump as a human being, and as a candidate for POTUS at this point, is SOLELY based on the external and biased informational sources that you choose to trust, then there is honestly not much else I can say.

I freely admit that I do not personally know trump, or clinton for that matter.

To echo what Goggs said politicians are basically liars and cheats, power corrupts.

I have no doubt that clinton et al are responsible for the most heinous acts, but that doesn't count for anything, it is just my opinion until it is shown to be otherwise in a court of law, the same goes for trump he is innocent until proven guilty.

I have no other option than to form an opinion based on what I see and hear, and the language coming out of his campaign is repugnant to me.

Politics is so personal and contradictory that it difficult to discuss.

What ever the outcome of the election I will always have a great admiration for America.

I would like to apologise for overstepping the mark, I probably came across as being a judgmental know it all, what Jeff says is right, I don't live in the U.S, so it is unrealistic to expect myself to be able to understand the true feeling there.

I think what I was doing was trying to offer friendly advice, but advice based on good feeling alone is not necessarily the most pragmatic or well informed.

If I was being blunt I would say: I don't get a vote, and I should not have involved myself in the first place.

Best wishes.
 
I freely admit that I do not personally know trump, or clinton for that matter.

To echo what Goggs said politicians are basically liars and cheats, power corrupts.

I have no doubt that clinton et al are responsible for the most heinous acts, but that doesn't count for anything, it is just my opinion until it is shown to be otherwise in a court of law, the same goes for trump he is innocent until proven guilty.

I have no other option than to form an opinion based on what I see and hear, and the language coming out of his campaign is repugnant to me.

Politics is so personal and contradictory that it difficult to discuss.

What ever the outcome of the election I will always have a great admiration for America.

I would like to apologise for overstepping the mark, I probably came across as being a judgmental know it all, what Jeff says is right, I don't live in the U.S, so it is unrealistic to expect myself to be able to understand the true feeling there.

I think what I was doing was trying to offer friendly advice, but advice based on good feeling alone is not necessarily the most pragmatic or well informed.

If I was being blunt I would say: I don't get a vote, and I should not have involved myself in the first place.

Best wishes.

Han,
Your comments are appreciated by everyone here including myself and you have EVERY RIGHT to speak your intelligent mind. You came across clearly and succinctly without so much as a trace of indignation. That's far more than I can say for those here attempting to align Trump with violent extremists which is assuredly aligned with personal ignorance at best. Your thoughts and expressed opinions on the matter here are insightful. Not only of and by yourself concerning what you have expressed here, but also for those of us like myself that are viewing your thoughts sincerely, and thereby best discerning the power of influence that the media does in fact hold for ALL of us, including myself.

Politics is a nasty business my friend. One that I could never be a direct party to. However I will state in the most absolute sense possible, that the reason that I will vote for Trump in a few weeks is because of the fact that he is NOT a career politician. Not in the least. He is not a silver tongued liar like is his primary contender, and it shows through via his brash and egocentric "take no prisoners"nature. Anarchy against this profoundly immoral, malevolent and corrupt parasitic political system now in place is the ONLY thing that Trump really represents.
 
That's far more than I can say for those here attempting to align Trump with violent extremists which is assuredly aligned with personal ignorance at best.
You don’t play a very good victim here. Next time try bringing your A game.
It must speak to you as waxing over everything else presented.

Facilitating, enabling, and pandering to those who would.

Have you forgotten already?

https://thinkprogress.org/the-rheto...out-inciting-violence-7fbf7b96d448#.3ecj6md9b
 
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And Ted Cruz' father worked with Lee Harvey Oswald.

And the National Enquirer's publisher is Trump's good buddy.

And who cares? If this is true and involves consenting adults, no problem. The issue with Trump is that the other parties didn't consent.
 
And Ted Cruz' father worked with Lee Harvey Oswald.

And the National Enquirer's publisher is Trump's good buddy.

And who cares? If this is true and involves consenting adults, no problem. The issue with Trump is that the other parties didn't consent.
the story says Hillary paid for sex tryst. i wouldnt put prostitution in the same category as two consenting adults. (personally I do not agree with married partners who have an open marriage, just not my style)

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Really.., who cares?

Typical liberal. ROTFLMAO!!!! The ONLY game you bring S.R.L. is the one you and the rest of the liberal hotdogs been playing. You know, it's that pretentious affair that all you liberals love to play, called Charades! :D

Ol' Hillaryous is into that carpet, I love it! LOL!!! Wonder what her preferred party favor is to cut all those old tough rugs with? I know one thing, it very well couldn't be the one that she's been doing all that lying with. I would imagine that poor things plumb worn out by now! :confused:
 
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