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The Oregon Bob + Angelia Bob saga

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Do you find 'Oregon Bob' trustworthy in this case?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • No

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 58.3%
  • Total voters
    12

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Gareth

Gareth

Nothin' to see here
The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

Im a moron, its meant to read "Angelia Joiner" in the title.

For anyone not familiar:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 3 is the most important. Maybe even start there if you havent heard any of it already.

Basically Angelia Joiner has done 3 weeks in a row of interviews regarding a 'Marley Woods' type area out in the Oregon forest with sightings of all sorts of stuff like orbs, craft, beings etc. A key part of the whole thing is this guy 'Oregon Bob' (he actually reveals his real name on part 3). Bob approached Angelia and everything seems to revolve around him in one way or another.

I'll let people listen and cast their vote then we can discuss. At the moment I'm erring on the skeptical side. I really don't trust Bob at this point.
 
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Some of her descriptions of the lights are very similar to, at times exactly like, some sightings I've had in Texas. I believe she is telling the truth. I've also heard the mechanical 'thunk' sound she described in association with unusual activity.
 
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I believe she is telling the truth too. It's bob I'm a little suspicious of. The way he went off and checked for s better location during Ang Joiners sighting.

And just his whole story on part 3. Not saying I don't believe it, I'm just a little skeptical at this point.

And I just noticed there is already a thread on this. Sorry about the dupe.
 
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Hi folks,
Mr Angelia Joiner podcast regarding Mr Bob seem pretty real . However, I suggested to AJ in last weeks chat to get some former law enforcement officer as witness such as Mr Decker and Mr Smith. These two guys are pillars of this field.
I seen the photos which are on her AJ website and they seem real but who knows.

AJ brave lady and great reporter.

Peace,
blowfish
 
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blowfish said:
Hi folks,
Mr Angelia Joiner podcast regarding Mr Bob seem pretty real . However, I suggested to AJ in last weeks chat to get some former law enforcement officer as witness such as Mr Decker and Mr Smith. These two guys are pillars of this field.
I seen the photos which are on her AJ website and they seem real but who knows.

AJ brave lady and great reporter.

Peace,
blowfish
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Hi David,
Please explain:confused:

Cheeers,
blowfish
 
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What? Did you see the OP?

Does Mr Smith = Kevin Smith or not? If so that explains Davids post. You expressed confusion.
 
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Gareth said:
What? Did you see the OP?

Does Mr Smith = Kevin Smith or not? If so that explains Davids post. You expressed confusion.
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No, Gareth, not THE clerks director (if you ment that all, hard to tell over the inet), some other dude I honestly don't know very much about.
 
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I'm listening to the second show right now. Jamie McDowell's and her camera man's (Jack?) testimony is pretty convincing (which means little I guess). I can't locate the photos though as if that would confirm anything.
 
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trainedobserver said:
I'm listening to the second show right now. Jamie McDowell's and her camera man's (Jack?) testimony is pretty convincing (which means little I guess). I can't locate the photos though as if that would confirm anything.
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Yeah I found that convincing (and interesting) too.

My problem is Bob apparently had another witness that "doesnt want to be named", so Bob is the sole representative of this whole thing. When AJ and her husband saw the thing on the 3rd night Bob went off (alone) to check for a better vantage point. Might mean nothing of course, but it seemed kinda suspicious to me. And just listening to Bobs whole story on the 3rd audio interview I don't find him 100% credible for some reason.

I could be totally off base with everything. Was just curious to get other people's opinions.
 
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HUGE red flag for me: the mention of a screenplay. She's writing a screenplay. It really smells like viral marketing or like someone trying to repeat the highly successful "Amityville Horror" stunt.

I don't totally dismiss it though. Just throwing it out as a red flag IMHO.
 
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Since Randal Joiner actually saw a flying craft of some sort it seems unlikely to me that "Bob" was carrying out some elaborate hoax although it is possible. He would have to have some confederates hiding in the woods manipulating various light sources and flying remotely controlled ufo models in a dense Oregon forest ... at night. But who knows? I say its a very interesting case worthy of some investigation.

I have to confess that I have become convinced that we will never figure out the UFO phenomena and surrounding phenomena. Why? This business has been going on (paranormal phenomena of all types) for a very long time and no one has a handle on it yet, at least openly at any rate. I think we have as much a chance of coming to some real understanding of the UFO phenomena as the squirrel I saw in the park at lunch has of understanding me and the society I belong to.
 
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trainedobserver said:
Since Randal Joiner actually saw a flying craft of some sort it seems unlikely to me that "Bob" was carrying out some elaborate hoax although it is possible. He would have to have some confederates hiding in the woods manipulating various light sources and flying remotely controlled ufo models in a dense Oregon forest ... at night. But who knows? I say its a very interesting case worthy of some investigation.

I have to confess that I have become convinced that we will never figure out the UFO phenomena and surrounding phenomena. Why? This business has been going on (paranormal phenomena of all types) for a very long time and no one has a handle on it yet, at least openly at any rate. I think we have as much a chance of coming to some real understanding of the UFO phenomena as the squirrel I saw in the park at lunch has of understanding me and the society I belong to.
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I don't believe, for one moment, Bob had the knowledge to hoax this events . I know Bob said; "Hang on i will go see if there is a better vantage point. I don't find that in any way suspicious as others do, and i will outline my opinions to why i don't think it is suspicious

Bob wasn't completely out of sight range of the group, and he wasn't missing for long period of time that would arouse suspicion among the group; the duration in how long Bob was gone was less than a few minutes. What suspicious about a person looking for a better location to view the object? I would do that speaking for myself.

Beside this encounter. Angela joiner's/ Husband Randal witnessed a triangle craft; a separate encounter from the other one. Bob most be a skilled operator, if he was able to hoax this events. I just don't believe he could have pulled this off. If you don't believe Bob that is fine, but there is in my opinion something occurring in the forests of Oregon that is worthy of investigation.
 
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How do you know he was never out of sight of the group? (I.e. AJ & her husband). I don't remember that from the interview. I don't recall a mention of how long he was gone either.
 
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Gareth said:
How do you know he was never out of sight of the group? (I.e. AJ & her husband). I don't remember that from the interview. I don't recall a mention of how long he was gone either.
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When they saw this UFO, it was below them i think Gareth, and from i gathered and pictured from their words. Is that Bob went off in a different direction to see if their was a better vantage point. Gareth if Bob was gone for ages more than five minutes, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Angela and Randal considering their in a location they were not used to would become worried. I would have to listen to it again Gareth, because i only heard the one time. But i don't think it wasn't more than few minutes that Bob was gone.

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Gareth i found it around the time of 14 minutes have a listen. Angela said Bob walked down the Road to see if their was a better spot to observe the UFO. Angela said he returned within a couple of minutes after doing that.
 
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How does Bob's absence explain the unidentified flying object that Randle saw? I'm all for being highly skeptical of these sorts of things but there is a point at which you have to relent.

I've camped in locations in the deep woods of North Carolina only accessible by a long fire road and listening to the recording I easily placed myself there in my imagination. While this may be an elaborate hoax, it would take a very callous if not insane individual to perpetrate it IMHO. The great mistake that the Joiners made was not returning to the site during the day, which is absolutely essential in any real investigation of such an event.

I have to admit though that when the talk turned to 'portals' my eyes glazed over a bit. I don't totally dismiss the idea it just seems to be a popular idea that is misapplied to things like failed missile tests and whatnot.
 
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trainedobserver said:
How does Bob's absence explain the unidentified flying object that Randle saw? I'm all for being highly skeptical of these sorts of things but there is a point at which you have to relent.

I've camped in locations in the deep woods of North Carolina only accessible by a long fire road and listening to the recording I easily placed myself there in my imagination. While this may be an elaborate hoax, it would take a very callous if not insane individual to perpetrate it IMHO. The great mistake that the Joiners made was not returning to the site during the day, which is absolutely essential in any real investigation of such an event.

I have to admit though that when the talk turned to 'portals' my eyes glazed over a bit. I don't totally dismiss the idea it just seems to be a popular idea that is misapplied to things like failed missile tests and whatnot.
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We can still maintain a view of scepticism without dismissing the entire case. Since there is nothing to verify or any evidence that has been shown to date, that can prove Bob's claims of seeing Aliens, portal's and other things. But this the important part; when you have two sightings of unusual craft been seen in a short period of time by two credible witnesses with no hidden agenda. You have to wonder is Bob telling it how it is, or is he embellishing some of his experiences to make them more appealing to people.
 
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Where are the photos, they had all sorts of cameras, right? Oh wait ...

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Yes, what's wrong with Kevin Smith? I loved Clerks, great flick. Silent Bob rules!
 
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