The Oregon Bob + Angelia Bob saga

[Gareth]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

I think the photos are on AJ's forum on Open Minds Forum. If anyone wants to venture over there...

 

[trainedobserver]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

Its appears to be a closely cropped picture of the usual out of focus blob of light.

 

[skunkape]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

Its appears to be a closely cropped picture of the usual out of focus blob of light.

That tends to be how they come out for me, too. That's why I don't even bother any more. My question to anyone who wants to challenge these claims is, "How much time do you spend outside, at night, in remote areas?"
Not much?
That's what I thought.
Here, have a shitty, blurry photo. I took it myself.
Feel free to call me a nut, if it makes you feel better.


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[icculus]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

SKunkape, what are those lights? Double exposed stars, or stuff flying around the woods?

As for Bob. I was pretty impressed with the story until they let him ramble on. Nordic Blondes, Greys, Octopus craft and 7ft tall greys that melted his camera. Where's that camera you ask?—I'm sure nowhere to be found. He claims that he's to scared to take a photo, yet over the course of almost 5 years of hanging out in the woods, nothing, not a single picture that I can find. He says he doesn't want to sell "it" to hollywood—of course not, he's building up the story for a bigger payout. He's got some boys in the woods with lights, an awol film crew, and a gullible reporter that is brand new to the topic.

 

[skunkape]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

SKunkape, what are those lights? Double exposed stars, or stuff flying around the woods?

They weren't stars or planes or planets. They were just flickering lights. I had the camera steadied pretty well. I'm guessing that there is some sort of lens distortion making it all squiqqly. I've seen some of these things up close enough to know that it is something very odd.
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[icculus]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

So they came into the foreground, in front of the trees? The second pic is pretty interesting. Nice.

 

[coyote]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

I've camped in locations in the deep woods of North Carolina only accessible by a long fire road and listening to the recording I easily placed myself there in my imagination. While this may be an elaborate hoax, it would take a very callous if not insane individual to perpetrate it IMHO. The great mistake that the Joiners made was not returning to the site during the day, which is absolutely essential in any real investigation of such an event.
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Apparently, the Joiners, were completely at the mercy of 'Bob' as far as access to the area in question. I find it odd that 'ol Bob actually had them lay down in the seat to keep from seeing exactly where they were being taken, at least in the beginning. All this after he sought them out to investigate the phenomenon. I believe what the Joiners are saying, but 'Bob', I don't know what to think about him.

 

[Gareth]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

SKunkape, what are those lights? Double exposed stars, or stuff flying around the woods?

As for Bob. I was pretty impressed with the story until they let him ramble on. Nordic Blondes, Greys, Octopus craft and 7ft tall greys that melted his camera. Where's that camera you ask?—I'm sure nowhere to be found. He claims that he's to scared to take a photo, yet over the course of almost 5 years of hanging out in the woods, nothing, not a single picture that I can find. He says he doesn't want to sell "it" to hollywood—of course not, he's building up the story for a bigger payout. He's got some boys in the woods with lights, an awol film crew, and a gullible reporter that is brand new to the topic.

Thats exactly what Im worried about. That + the fact that originally when he went to AJ with this he was the only one. I.E. his other witness didnt want to come forward.

Skunkape I hear you. My concern is only with Bob himself. I'm completely open to it all being legit. I'm just a little skeptical about a couple things.

 

[icculus]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

He essentially had the Joiners on a large scale pirates of the Caribbean ride. Interesting that they see the physical craft on the last night with the plane leaving first thing in the morning. They don't have time to check it out in the morning.

Oh, but Bob's wife looks like Meryl Strepe. How sweet!

 

[Kieran]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

I can't see how Bob hoaxed both Angela and her husband's sighting. And i feel like i am repeating myself with this; there is no way in Hell a citizen from the forests of Oregon namely Bob would in my opinion; have the technical or the engineering nohow to create a large craft; triangle in shape; that made no noise that was apparent and that had the ability to fly through the air. Are people suggesting Bob Hoaxed this? no way in my opinion.

As for the other sighting there is a possibility it could have been hoaxed. But Angela said in her opinion it wasn't hoaxed and i think she is far from a fool that she would be easily tricked. There was two other witnesses that told their stories; One was Lady i forget here name and she too was a Journalist with respected credentials. So therefore other people have witnessed and experienced Odd Phenomenon within this location.

We've no prove Bob is telling us the truth, but maybe he is? the only way you can see if there is any truth to Bob's story. Is that Serious UFO researchers; would investigate the area and find out for themselves. We'd get more information back if this was done.

 

[icculus]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

That's a good point Irish, forgot about the craft. Would be pretty interesting if all this is true, although the more Bob spoke the more shadier things got. It seemed like Frank and Angelia were like "alrighty then..." and wrapped things up.

 

[Kieran]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

That's a good point Irish, forgot about the craft. Would be pretty interesting if all this is true, although the more Bob spoke the more shadier things got. It seemed like Frank and Angelia were like "alrighty then..." and wrapped things up.

In the later part of the interview. Yes some of the details of Bob's story would be considered questionable. But what has given me pause is; that we have four independent witnesses outside of Bob that have detailed their own experiences. This is why, i think this case needs to looked at more closely.

 

[Gareth]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

You're right -- the female journalist who featured in the first interview was quite convincing.

Interesting case. Maybe since Frank Warren is co-hosting a few episodes now he can get some of the folks on for an episode. Bob + AJ + the female journo would be a great show I think.

 

[Kieran]

The Oregon Bob + Angelia Joiner saga

You're right -- the female journalist who featured in the first interview was quite convincing.

Interesting case. Maybe since Frank Warren is co-hosting a few episodes now he can get some of the folks on for an episode. Bob + AJ + the female journo would be a great show I think.

Since this is a relatively new case it be interesting to get opinions. If this show could be arranged. I really hope we get more information on this case and this case doesn't end suddenly. Does pesky aliens might know the game is up and have moved on