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The Roswell Slides Have Been Leaked Online

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BoyintheMachine said:
Be careful of your arguments.
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Hello? How about you be careful with the tone you post your threads in? The very title is an exaggeration and misleading. Nothing has been "leaked online". And what about your claim that a german team has exposed the slides as a hoax? There was no team and the guy only blew up one slide.He doesn't even say he thinks it's debunked.

How is this kind of sensationalistic debunking any better than what the "other side" is doing? Yeah sure, you just want to warn those poor people who are considering to go to the event. But you know what, these guys, commonly known as true believers, probably aren't going to listen to you, anyway.
Anyone who pays that amount of money to be at the event, although they've been warned by other bogus "events" like the Santilli film mess or the Sirius silliness, is probably beyond any warnings.

If Mr Randle says that thing is one of the slides in question, that's indeed more than questionable. Until now, I haven't thought of these guys as charlatans and moneymakers, but that would change, if you are right. How can they justify having people pay that much money to see two ambiguous, questionable or easily debunkable slides? If they think they have proof positive and people should know about it, they would have to get them out there for free.

If you are right, they should get sued and fined to kingdom come, no doubt. But the final judgement will have to wait until after the event, I guess.
 
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Burnt State said:
Roswell will ever die as you can not kill a myth.

The reason why you fold a slide is when it is a duplicate of lesser quality. If it was a pic of an alien, you would never do that. But a tourist pic of a display - sure, that you would fold.

Ticket prices range from $300-$1300. Auditorio Nacional

It's all a little ridiculous and I doubt the event will even happen unless the Illuminati are buying up all the tickets for reasons unknown.
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Just to clarify my statement,

We know there are a lot of researchers investigating Roswell. However, the public doesn't see most of these people. The only people the public sees are Stanton, Kevin, Tom And Don. That's it. Tom and Don were the only active ones among the bunch and now that they have been discredited there is no one left to fill their shoes. So the public face of Roswell research is dead.

Also, you may not realize it but Mexico is UFO nuts, they are probably 20 years behind the U.S. with their fanaticism and are at the level of UFO frenzy we experienced in the 90s. Jaime was chosen because their faith in him that he could indeed bring in the crowds.
 
Constance said:
It seems to be the case that Jaime Mausson (sp?) is the person in charge of the presentation in Mexico City. I can't imagine that he made an appropriate choice of venue. It will be surprising if that 10,000-seat arena is even half-filled on May 5. I also doubt that all tickets are priced at the levels named by Boy. The thing about renting enormous venues is that the cost to be paid remains the same, no matter how many seats are sold. Rather than making money on this production, I think Mausson and any financial investors he's gathered won't make a cent. I also wonder about the millions of dollars in profits Boy expects to be raised through live-streaming of the event and immediate youtube copies of it available free on the internet.
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I checked on the event and Ticket Master shows that tickets are being sold in the $350-$1570 range. No one is BSing you on the price.
 
BoyintheMachine said:
Also, you may not realize it but Mexico is UFO nuts, they are probably 20 years behind the U.S. with their fanaticism and are at the level of UFO frenzy we experienced in the 90s. Jaime was chosen because their faith in him that he could indeed bring in the crowds.
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Precisely! Exactly! Right! There are plenty of wealthy people in Mexico City too! The Greater Mexico City population is 21.2 million people...
 
Burnt State said:
The reason why you fold a slide is when it is a duplicate of lesser quality.
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And you don't want people to see clearly what a shitty slide it is to begin with. So, this is a ONE slide event really... BUT...

WITH 400+ slides of the PTB to complete the conspiracy theories... such as Eisenhower slipped them the slides for safekeeping, etc. etc.
Burnt State said:
It's all a little ridiculous and I doubt the event will even happen unless the Illuminati are buying up all the tickets for reasons unknown.
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The PSYOPS experiments continue... wink. This psycho-toy was wound-up by the string-puppets named Doty and Moore.
 
I just happened to notice an opinion that “The Trained Observer” left elsewhere that I’m in total agreement with.

“I find it impossible to believe that the United States government, particularly the military, would obtain the corpse of an intelligent extraterrestrial life form and put it on display somewhere in a glass box under bright lights. Every cell of the corpse would be absolutely priceless. The potential for medical research, the weaponization of the biological material, and future discoveries as science progresses would dictate that the corpse be kept in an airtight vault and never exposed to light unnecessarily. Logic dictates that the slides can only be showing us a museum piece or a sideshow curiosity and not a "history changing" extraterrestrial biological sample. I don't see how anyone outside of religious fanatics or fantasists could think otherwise. Unfortunately, "ufology" is full of both as well unethical opportunists ready to take advantage of the faithful. I would have to agree that it is ultimately a hoax, since I do not think everyone involved in this latest fleecing of the flock believes the pitch. The thing that kills me is that after all this is said and done. After it becomes painfully obvious that the thing in the box is not an alien, "The Dream Team" will get a free pass and next year, or the year after next, the same type of nonsense will be going on. Or will that be an "Imbrogno" moment, as it probably should be, for some people?”
 
Sentry said:
Double-check that price. I think those numbers are in pesos. Whatever the cost, not the way I'd want to spend a Tuesday evening.
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I apologize. I was just going off of what I was told. I double-checked and it does appear to be 350-1500 pesos. So that's about $25-$100 U.S dollars.

However, they could still make millions off of this if it sells out and with the profit from the live streaming and alleged book deal and merchandise included.
 
S.R.L. said:
I just happened to notice an opinion that “The Trained Observer” left elsewhere that I’m in total agreement with.

“I find it impossible to believe that the United States government, particularly the military, would obtain the corpse of an intelligent extraterrestrial life form and put it on display somewhere in a glass box under bright lights. Every cell of the corpse would be absolutely priceless. The potential for medical research, the weaponization of the biological material, and future discoveries as science progresses would dictate that the corpse be kept in an airtight vault and never exposed to light unnecessarily. Logic dictates that the slides can only be showing us a museum piece or a sideshow curiosity and not a "history changing" extraterrestrial biological sample. I don't see how anyone outside of religious fanatics or fantasists could think otherwise. Unfortunately, "ufology" is full of both as well unethical opportunists ready to take advantage of the faithful. I would have to agree that it is ultimately a hoax, since I do not think everyone involved in this latest fleecing of the flock believes the pitch. The thing that kills me is that after all this is said and done. After it becomes painfully obvious that the thing in the box is not an alien, "The Dream Team" will get a free pass and next year, or the year after next, the same type of nonsense will be going on. Or will that be an "Imbrogno" moment, as it probably should be, for some people?”
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I've already lost respect for Tom and Don. I'm upset that Kevin hasn't spoken out against them. I seriously doubt he ever will.

Witness to Roswell and Inside the Real Area 51 is going right in the trash because they have zero credibility.

I sure as hell hope no further "witnesses" ever contact them.
 
BoyintheMachine said:
I apologize. I was just going off of what I was told. I double-checked and it does appear to be 350-1500 pesos. So that's about $25-$100 U.S dollars.

However, they could still make millions off of this if it sells out and with the profit from the live streaming and alleged book deal and merchandise included.
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In that case it will sell out easily. Red Pill Junkie already has his ticket.
 
BoyintheMachine said:
I'm upset that Kevin hasn't spoken out against them. I seriously doubt he ever will.
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He's certainly willing to milk-it for all it's worth driving eyeball traffic there, it makes money, meanwhile he stands "off-put" at arms length about this whole affair.

It's the old plausible deniability antics AND money, money, money... driving more book sales.
 
Burnt State said:
In that case it will sell out easily. Red Pill Junkie already has his ticket.
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I would say they could easily make a million off of this, possibly 2-3 million when everything is said and done. I don't know how much Santilli got from the Alien Autopsy film but this may be the most expensive Ufology fraud to date.
 
DissectionStalker said:
He's certainly willing to milk-it for all it's worth driving eyeball traffic there, it makes money, meanwhile he stands "off-put" at arms length about this whole affair.

It's the old plausible deniability antics AND money, money, money... driving more book sales.
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Paul Kimball has said that Kevin was in it up to his eyeballs but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think anyone in Roswell research will ever speak out against Carey and Schmitt, which would be further evidence indicating Roswell is dead.
 
Gene Steinberg said:
From the never-ending-story:

A Different Perspective: Roswell Slides Today's (February 10) Update

And I still fail to see why American UFO researchers have to run to a paid venue in another country to release this stuff.
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Still we're left with the same issues: is this how an alien body would be presented? If it looks like a hydrocephalus example then what's more likely - alien, or human with a birth anomaly? And of course it's just an image and nothing can be proven from that. Why do we need to Be Witness to a circus?

These different perspectives feel like different defenses. The drama surrounding this event is all that's wrong with ufoology but it seems that it just can't help itself.
 
I've also wondered if it's being held in Mexico for legal reasons as well as the fact that they believe they can get more money there. For example, maybe they fear lawsuits if it was held here?
 
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