The Tea Party March Footage

[Angel of Ioren]

One absolute power sounds way too "tin-foil-hatty." But then again, all conspiracy theories sound bat-shit bonkers to me.

 

[cottonzway]

 

[cottonzway]

Centralized power in a "One World" view is an ideology and not a conspiracy IMO. There are conspiracies spawned from the concept, but it's an ideology shared by a lot of powerful people.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Those videos are nowhere close to the type of insanity that was seen at the Tea Party March. I saw a few misinformed voters being asked questions that they didn't know the answer to. I'm sure that if you asked some of those people to point out China on a map, they wouldn't find it. At least they weren't saying hateful things.

 

[pixelsmith]

One absolute power sounds way too "tin-foil-hatty." But then again, all conspiracy theories sound bat-shit bonkers to me.

you better turn off your tv and do some real research then.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

you better turn off your tv and do some real research then.

I better! You never know though, I may be here to spread the lies of the ultimate powers that rule the world!

Seriously though,do you have any good sources that were not written by crazies? Perhaps something in a peer-reviewed journal?

I'm really sorry, but you're starting to sound as nuts as the people in the video.

 

[cottonzway]

Those videos are nowhere close to the type of insanity that was seen at the Tea Party March. I saw a few misinformed voters being asked questions that they didn't know the answer to. I'm sure that if you asked some of those people to point out China on a map, they wouldn't find it. At least they weren't saying hateful things.

I could post all of the left-wing anti-Bush rallies, but truth be told I hate Bush too much to do that even though a lot of people there acted in the same manner. Partisan politcics is a religion to a lot of people.

 

[cottonzway]

I better! You never know though, I may be here to spread the lies of the ultimate powers that rule the world!

Seriously though,do you have any good sources that were not written by crazies? Perhaps something in a peer-reviewed journal?

I'm really sorry, but you're starting to sound as nuts as the people in the video.

Your question is to Pixel, but I can give you a lot of good sources for that info. Here are some books:

"Superclass" By David Rothkopth (Head of the Kissinger Group)

"Globalization" by George Soros

"Making Globalization Work" by Joesph Stiglitz

"The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski

"David Rockefeller: Memoris" by David Rockefeller

 

[Angel of Ioren]

I could post all of the left-wing anti-Bush rallies, but truth be told I hate Bush too much to do that even though a lot of people there acted in the same manner. Partisan politcics is a religion to a lot of people.

Looking from the outside in, I think that the stuff going on in your country is insane. I really hope that it gets sorted out. I haven't met one person here that would take Bush politics over Obama politics, but I'm in Quebec and we're a very socialist province.

 

[cottonzway]

Looking from the outside in, I think that the stuff going on in your country is insane. I really hope that it gets sorted out. I haven't met one person here that would take Bush politics over Obama politics, but I'm in Quebec and we're a very socialist province.

I don't like either of them. I'm pretty conservative at heart, but I also respect a lot of progressives as well. I am open-minded in those regards. I dislike this admin and I disliked the filthy Neo-cons.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

I don't like either of them. I'm pretty conservative at heart, but I also respect a lot of progressives as well. I am open-minded in those regards. I dislike this admin and I disliked the filthy Neo-cons.

I think some of the policies in Quebec (that I think are fantastic), would make the heads of some Americans EXPLODE.
Example:
The government paid 70% of my salary for five weeks while I stayed home with my wife and newborn for 5 weeks.
We had to go to the hospital at one point and we were seen right away and had to stay for five days. We paid 0$
Socialism works.

 

[truthseeker]

Socialism works.

Maybe, if everybody goes to work and pays taxes. What if you have a large portion of the population that doesn't do either and still uses the same services as everybody else?

 

[boulders and sticks]

Oh..... I thought you were going to post something similar to the first video. Those people were ignorant of some facts, yes.
But i did not hear the hate speech that was in the first.
The complete lack of compassion for their fellow Man. The contempt for anyone that is different from them. The fear in their voices was palpable.
These are the kind of lemmings that have isolated this country from the rest of the world.
This country has a lot of good hard working decent people on both sides of the isle. I'm sorry to say but the people in the first video have a loud voice here, what will happen is anybody's guess. What i do know is NOTHING lasts forever. Thank God.
John.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Maybe, if everybody goes to work and pays taxes. What if you have a large portion of the population that doesn't do either and still uses the same services as everybody else?

I said socialism, not communism.

You have to understand that most of Europe and Canada is based on socialism, and there is a high quality of life maintained. I'm happy, and most of the people I know are happy. None of us are on welfare.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Oh..... I thought you were going to post something similar to the first video. Those people were ignorant of some facts, yes.
But i did not hear the hate speech that was in the first.
The complete lack of compassion for their fellow Man. The contempt for anyone that is different from them. The fear in their voices was palpable.
These are the kind of lemmings that have isolated this country from the rest of the world.

Exactly. Those people aren't saying anything bad, they just don't understand a lot of the issues.

 

[boulders and sticks]

Maybe, if everybody goes to work and pays taxes. What if you have a large portion of the population that doesn't do either and still uses the same services as everybody else?

Roads, Police, Fireman, public transport, Schools, Military, Goverment paper shuffling, Medicare, social security the list could get pretty big.

So if your unemployed your saying you should not have any access to the above benefits?
John.

 

[truthseeker]

Roads, Police, Fireman, public transport, Schools, Military, Goverment paper shuffling, Medicare, social security the list could get pretty big.
John.

All these public services are not exactly free, they are paid for by the people who use them either through taxes or fees. That takes me back to my original point: if you have a large portion of the population as we do in the US that chooses not to work or pay taxes (and I'm not talking about someone who just lost his/her job due to economic downturn or someone who worked all his/her live and now enjoys retirement),where is the money supposed to come from to pay for all the free services that everybody is supposed to enjoy?

BTW did you know that Europe is reconsidering their current socialist economic system because they are virtually bankrupt? They have a large portion of immigrants who don't work but get good governement benefits and they have a large portion of young people who choose not to go to work because they can be better off living off unemployment. A friend of mine who resided in Germany a few years back told me that this was exactly the case. He chose not to work because it made absolutely no financial sense to go to work. How does that make any sense? How is any country supposed to survive with a system like that?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

BTW did you know that Europe is reconsidering their current socialist economic system because they are virtually bankrupt? They have a large portion of immigrants who don't work but get good governement benefits and they have a large portion of young people who choose not to go to work because they can be better off living off unemployment. A friend of mine who resided in Germany a few years back told me that this was exactly the case. He chose not to work because it made absolutely no financial sense to go to work. How does that make any sense? How is any country supposed to survive with a system like that?

Well, we're doing quite well over here. Are things perfect, of course not, but most (if not all) of the people I know would not trade the services we have here for how things are run in the U.S. Ask any Canadian about their health care system, and they'll probably complain about something. Then ask them if they would ever consider giving it up for the health care system in the United States, you'll be answered with an "ABSOLUTELY NOT, EH."

 

[boulders and sticks]

All these public services are not exactly free, they are paid for by the people who use them either through taxes or fees.

BTW did you know that Europe is reconsidering their current socialist economic system because they are virtually bankrupt? QUOTE]

Hi Truthseeker.
I am aware they are not free. But everyone use's them. Employed or not.
How many people are truly unemployed for their entire life?
Illegal immigrants? Yes they use the system and I contend if you were in their shoe's you would too. But remember, you would have to do the shit work no one else wants to do.
Bankrupt?
Yes the U.S is a fine example of responsible spending that all of the world should take note of!!
John.

 

[truthseeker]

I am aware they are not free. But everyone use's them. Employed or not.

Ok, so again - if you have a large, growing portion of the population that is using these services but are not paying into the system wouldn't the system collapse eventually? How would it be able to sustain itself?

How many people are truly unemployed for their entire life?

You'd be surprised. In fact, it's not even an issue of whether you're employed or not not, it's more about how much are you paying back into the system. There is a ton of people who are receiving welfare benefits and work for cash. Some have played the system so well and have accumulated so much cash that they can comfortably retire for the rest of their lives.

Illegal immigrants? Yes they use the system and I contend if you were in their shoe's you would too. But remember, you would have to do the shit work no one else wants to do.

So fine, we need people to do those types of jobs. Why not contribute something back in terms of income tax, social security tax and so on, just like everybody else. Why not have their employer pay for some of this stuff, even a little. We do need to sustain the system, right?

Bankrupt?
Yes the U.S is a fine example of responsible spending that all of the world should take note of!!
John.

No, it's an example of a system inherent with corporate and government corruption and negligence at the highest level and it is highly doubtful that a socialist model would fix anything under such circumstances, if only made things worse. Untill we elect people with common sense, logic and responsibility to run the show, nothing is going to change. It's only going to get worse.