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Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns?
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Muadib
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Yes, I've heard of the McCollum memo, but even if it could be proven that the president had read the document (it can't) it still doesn't qualify as a false flag because the bottom line is: the Japanese did the attacking, not Americans posing as Japanese, so it's not a false flag. A conspiracy, maybe, but not a false flag. Here's some more info on the McCollum memo:
How about a little conspiracy?
For years, there has been speculation that President Franklin Roosevelt knew in advance about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. As Commander-in-Chief, any President has access to classified information that no one else can see. FDR was certainly no exception, and in 1994 the McCollum Memo was declassified. Conspiracy theorists jumped on this highly sensitive document like flies on stink as proof the President not only knew an attack was coming, but that he had purposely engineered the debacle, then expressed outrage when it occurred.
What is the McCollum Memo? It’s a 6-page document penned by Arthur McCollum, a Lt. Col. in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and submitted to his superiors on October 7, 1940 (14 months before the Pearl Harbor attacks). Germany, Italy, and Japan had, less that two weeks before, signed the Tripartite Pact, and McCollum’s paper begins with his strategic view of the world in light of their close association. He then offered up an assessment of Japan’s strengths and weaknesses.
So far so good.
But then McCollum added 8 steps he believed would drive the Japanese to declare war on the United States. They included things like keeping the U.S. Fleet parked in Hawaii (which we did), instigating a trade embargo with Japan (which we did), and aiding Chiang Kai-shek and the Chinese military (which we also did). He finished the document with the curious phrase, “If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better.”
The “superiors” to whom he submitted his work weren’t just “the next guys in the chain”, they were Captains Walter Anderson and Dudley Knox, both very close to President Roosevelt. And you’re all sleuthy enough to put the sequence of events together…Knox and Anderson receive the memo, which they read and pass to the President. The President then reads the memo, has light-bulbs go off in his brain, and manipulates foreign policy to follow McCollum’s suggestions, and then allows Pearl Harbor to be attacked so we can enter the war with Britain.
But the 64-thousand-dollar question still lingers…while this sequence of events is possible, did it actually happen?
And, unfortunately for the conspiracy theorists, the best answer is likely “no”. Anderson (the Director of Naval Intelligence) certainly read McCollum’s paper…he added his own comments at the end, which included the phrase, “…we should not precipitate anything in the Orient.”
The eight “steps to war” proposed by McCollum were largely followed by the Roosevelt Administration, but they were measures that were largely dictated by the current political/military situations of the moment rather than a pre-meditated drive to war. There is zero factual evidence (and only the most obtuse of circumstantial evidence) that the McCollum Memo ever landed in front of the President’s eyes. And finally, it was Japan who attacked first, regardless of real or implied provocation, and it was they who jumped through all kinds of hoops to make it not look like an undeclared act of war.
In the end, I think the McCollum Memo was far more a “what if” analysis by a mid-level officer than a serious policy document that the administration adapted for its own purposes. There may be “smoking guns” in the the Roosevelt Administration (like there are in many), but those looking for a real story will probably have to look elsewhere.
How about a little conspiracy?
For years, there has been speculation that President Franklin Roosevelt knew in advance about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. As Commander-in-Chief, any President has access to classified information that no one else can see. FDR was certainly no exception, and in 1994 the McCollum Memo was declassified. Conspiracy theorists jumped on this highly sensitive document like flies on stink as proof the President not only knew an attack was coming, but that he had purposely engineered the debacle, then expressed outrage when it occurred.
What is the McCollum Memo? It’s a 6-page document penned by Arthur McCollum, a Lt. Col. in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and submitted to his superiors on October 7, 1940 (14 months before the Pearl Harbor attacks). Germany, Italy, and Japan had, less that two weeks before, signed the Tripartite Pact, and McCollum’s paper begins with his strategic view of the world in light of their close association. He then offered up an assessment of Japan’s strengths and weaknesses.
So far so good.
But then McCollum added 8 steps he believed would drive the Japanese to declare war on the United States. They included things like keeping the U.S. Fleet parked in Hawaii (which we did), instigating a trade embargo with Japan (which we did), and aiding Chiang Kai-shek and the Chinese military (which we also did). He finished the document with the curious phrase, “If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better.”
The “superiors” to whom he submitted his work weren’t just “the next guys in the chain”, they were Captains Walter Anderson and Dudley Knox, both very close to President Roosevelt. And you’re all sleuthy enough to put the sequence of events together…Knox and Anderson receive the memo, which they read and pass to the President. The President then reads the memo, has light-bulbs go off in his brain, and manipulates foreign policy to follow McCollum’s suggestions, and then allows Pearl Harbor to be attacked so we can enter the war with Britain.
But the 64-thousand-dollar question still lingers…while this sequence of events is possible, did it actually happen?
And, unfortunately for the conspiracy theorists, the best answer is likely “no”. Anderson (the Director of Naval Intelligence) certainly read McCollum’s paper…he added his own comments at the end, which included the phrase, “…we should not precipitate anything in the Orient.”
The eight “steps to war” proposed by McCollum were largely followed by the Roosevelt Administration, but they were measures that were largely dictated by the current political/military situations of the moment rather than a pre-meditated drive to war. There is zero factual evidence (and only the most obtuse of circumstantial evidence) that the McCollum Memo ever landed in front of the President’s eyes. And finally, it was Japan who attacked first, regardless of real or implied provocation, and it was they who jumped through all kinds of hoops to make it not look like an undeclared act of war.
In the end, I think the McCollum Memo was far more a “what if” analysis by a mid-level officer than a serious policy document that the administration adapted for its own purposes. There may be “smoking guns” in the the Roosevelt Administration (like there are in many), but those looking for a real story will probably have to look elsewhere.
Muadib
Paranormal Adept
Anyway don't get me wrong, I think an excellent case can be made for Roosevelt having foreknowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbor. My point is the McCollum memo isn't exactly the smoking gun that some researchers have made it out to be, and PH was definitely not a false flag no matter how much some conspiracy theorists want to classify it as such. I mean, let's be real here, do you think you there is any way we could have avoided getting into WWII considering Hitler's maniacal ideology and the fact that he wanted to basically take control of all Europe? Of course, it would have gone a long way towards stopping him if war criminals from our country weren't financing and supplying his operation, like Prescott Bush and Standard Oil and a few others, but I digress. There's a very good case to be made for us having no good reason to get into Vietnam, but with WWII it was just a matter of time.
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Glad you guys liked the post and it started a good discussion.
My personal opinion on it is that the video is full of BS but it was worth posting for the discussion value.
PS: I avoid Alex Jones and his friends most of the time as I feel he is 99% full of BS... I give him 1% as even a mad man can be right some of the time.
My personal opinion on it is that the video is full of BS but it was worth posting for the discussion value.
PS: I avoid Alex Jones and his friends most of the time as I feel he is 99% full of BS... I give him 1% as even a mad man can be right some of the time.