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UFO Brazil 2011

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hak said:
As an illustrator and visual person (not in the visual effects arena) I understand that it does take skill and understanding of the physics of how things fall and move in space/time, visual distortion, light etc. to make things seem real. So though it may have taken someone 1/2 a day to do, it took them years of acquiring visual knowledge and observation to pull it off.. Not to mention the hours upon hours they had to put into learning the software.
Give they guy some credit!
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Sorry I don't mean to diminish the hard work someone has done, .... in the Haiti Case it's pretty cool I will admit. I guess I'm just saying that it doesn't neccessarily have to involve a great deal of time to pull off such a feat. Perhaps someone with an avid interest in video production would be able to pull off something like it. Perhaps it's somebody's hobby, artform, job, ... whatever. The younger generation seems very well versed and quite confortable with making videos, perhaps even trying to outdo each other at times.

What I seem to hear though a lot of times is, ... "Well if it's a hoax then it's not just a good one, but a GREAT one!". And I don't know that is really always the case.

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softbeard said:
From the video, it's obvious, to me, that they've seen an object of interest before the video has started. They then pull off to the side of the road and start to try to search for and locate the object with their video camera.
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I hear what you're saying and that might be the case. But why is it that so many UFO videos never show the beginning or end of the sighting?? Why couldn't we see the view from the car if they were seeing something extraordinary?? It just makes me suspicious, that's all.

Of course I have to admit my bias that I am skeptical before ever thinking it could be something beyond mundane or hoaxed. I guess that skepticism comes from finding so many events to be downright fakes, lies, trickery, or what have you. When I was younger I came at it from the opposite point of view thinking "why not?". As the years have passed I've seen some answers to the "why not" question that makes me come at any potential sighting as pretty skeptical, .... not dismissive, ... but in a show me the money kind of way. And there always seems to be some breakdown that leaves me unconvinced.
 
TClaeys said:
I hear what you're saying and that might be the case. But why is it that so many UFO videos never show the beginning or end of the sighting?? Why couldn't we see the view from the car if they were seeing something extraordinary?? It just makes me suspicious, that's all. Of course I have to admit my bias that I am skeptical before ever thinking it could be something beyond mundane or hoaxed. I guess that skepticism comes from finding so many events to be downright fakes, lies, trickery, or what have you. When I was younger I came at it from the opposite point of view thinking "why not?". As the years have passed I've seen some answers to the "why not" question that makes me come at any potential sighting as pretty skeptical, .... not dismissive, ... but in a show me the money kind of way. And there always seems to be some breakdown that leaves me unconvinced.
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I cannot say why the video begins where it does or ends where it does, however the endpoints of this Brazil video do not strike me as particularly odd. That aside, I fully agree with the need to maintain maximum skepticism concerning any video portraying strange events. However, that skepticism works both ways. I've learned to also become skeptical of quick dismissive arguments as well.
 
Looking at this 'Brazil' video in more detail, I noted that something strange happens at 00:39 sec. Before everyone yells 'aha! Hoax!', note the shadowing on the clouds has changed. I suspect whatever else is going on, something caused the camera to change its exposure for a brief period of time.
@1:13-1:14 the disk is no longer visible to the camera. Whether this is because it has:
a. Become invisible.
b. Is being obscured from the camera by moving into the clouds.
c.. Dematerialized.
d. Vanished in a puff of CGI smoke.
is up for debate.
Before everyone rushes to make choice 'd', I would contend that everything else about this video, including lighting and geometry, is correct.
I keep getting the feeling that the camera is not catching everything, and that, possibly, there is action happening between camera frames.
 
The problem is it way too short in length which often is a clear sign a video has been hoaxed by someone. Also the object released a charge an energy burst yet no effect on the cloud itself , ya it up for discussion would it effect the cloud, but personally I think it should have caused some breakup or disturbance of the cloud bank.

The Video probably is authentic as far as scene and everything in it. I Have no expertise on this so leave it up to experts to debunk this video, but a good quality UFO video that looks too good to be true, well often turns out to be too good for a reason!
 
I don't have any expertise but my gut feeling watching the clip is that it's fake. The way it moves off looks wrong. Having said that no one really knows how a UFO is supposed to move and what proplulsion it is using so perhaps if we saw the real thing there might be something odd about it's movement.
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Odd does not necessarily imply fake. But I agree, there are very odd things about the UFO's movements as depicted in the video.
 
KEROUAC said:
I agree softbeard. I often wonder if a perfectly genuine clip of a UFO appeared on youtube how many of us would call it as fake because it looked too good or went contra to our existing experiences of reality.

Just saw this new article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...il-Footage-Sao-Paolo-shows-flying-saucer.html
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Anything can be faked. For something to be difinitive, we would have to know that the video we are watching is the actual shot footage. kind of like a RAW photo can not be fake since it shows exactly what the camera captured.
 
Much as it irks me, it looks fake. The object going in and out of the cloud looks real enough. It's those flares or lights dropping at the end. That's just really bad CGI. You can tell it's fake by how it falls, the luminosity looks like a cartoon instead of some self-illuminated lighted object.
And that cloud illuminating flash is just awful CGI. Watch it closely and you can tell the cloud doesn't light up, it's like a superimposed cartoon again.
Why do people do this? Do they not have a life to the point it's necessary for them to create a fake UFO vid?
 
exo_doc said:
Much as it irks me, it looks fake. The object going in and out of the cloud looks real enough. It's those flares or lights dropping at the end. That's just really bad CGI. You can tell it's fake by how it falls, the luminosity looks like a cartoon instead of some self-illuminated lighted object.
And that cloud illuminating flash is just awful CGI. Watch it closely and you can tell the cloud doesn't light up, it's like a superimposed cartoon again.
Why do people do this? Do they not have a life to the point it's necessary for them to create a fake UFO vid?
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I agree exo. What a bummer.
 
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