The following interview was referenced in AJ's previous post. He says
the interview was conducted sometime Sunday 10/25. This must
have been very close in time to his interview on the Paracast.
Latest from A.J. Gevaerd
Brazil's Former Air Force Minister Makes Astonishing Statements
About UFOs
Brazil's former Air Force minister Socrates Monteiro was
interviewed by the Brazilian UFO Magazine and made astonishing
statements about the action of extraterrestrial intelligences in
the country.
Another distinguished officer supports the campaign UFOs:
Freedom of Information Now!
Observation: Photos can be downloaded here:
Index of /public/socrates.
Last Sunday, October 25th, Brazilian UFO Magazine interviewed
the former minister of Air Force during the government of
Fernando Collor, from 1990-1992, lieutenant-brigadier Socrates
da Costa Monteiro. The interview was conducted in his residence
in Rio de Janeiro and was performed by this editor A. J.
Gevaerd, with the cooperation of the co-editor Marco Antonio
Petit and the consultants Francisco Pires de Campos and Arthur
Ferreira Neto. It was more than two hours of extremely
interesting and fruitful conversation, in which the military
felt comfortable to talk about Ufology, like some other
officials who also gave their statements to Brazilian UFO
Magazine.
Monteiro is retired from the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) for a
number of years, but keeps his bounds with active militaries
from various sectors of the Brazilian military. He has an
extremely lucid memory of the major facts of his activities in
the Air Force and of special interest to the Ufology about
how the country handled with the matter during the time when he
was on active duty. Like other ministers, before and after him,
Monteiro also had access to sensitive information on the
interaction of other cosmic species in our country, reporting a
few cases. He was pilot of many airplane types, including
fighters, gathering more than 5 thousand flight hours in them.
Technology far more advanced than ours
The officer was the commander of I Integrated Air Defense and
Air Traffic Control Centre (Cindacta), in Brasilia, at the time
when he was ahead of registering the
ufological occurrences all over the country, especially in the
area of the Federal District and Southeast region. He revealed
that the observations of unidentified flying objects were
regular on the radar screens of the institution, well before he
assumed its command, and that all the cases were carefully
registered, with some of them being further investigated by the
Air Force. In that occasion the expression "Traffic Hotel" was
not yet used to designate UFOs.
Monteiro described a situation when the radar station of
Cindacta in Gama (DF) was overflown at low altitude by a disk
type object of great proportions, and that its staff, without
knowing what to do, opened fire against the "intruder". When he
got to know it, Monteiro gave them express orders to stop the
gun fire immediately. They have a technology far more advanced
than ours and we don't know how they would react to our action.
The interviewee also was the commander of IV Regional Air
Command (COMAR), in Sao Paulo, institution that controls the air
space of the Southeast region, during the famous UFO Official
Night in Brazil, on May 19th 1986, when the area was flooded by
the appearance of more than 20 flying spheres of more than 100 m
diameter each, which were chased by 7 FAB's fighters F-5E and
Mirage, sent from the air bases of Santa Cruz (RJ) and Anapolis
(GO). This is one of the most important ufological cases in the
country, which counted on the participation of the Embraer's
president at that time colonel Ozires Silva, on board of a Xingu
airplane heading from Brasilia to Sao Jose dos Campos. Ozires
spotted an object and even chased it over Sao Paulo state. As it
is known, the Air Force Minister at that time Octavio Moreira
Lima went to TV in national broadcast, the next day, to admit
the "invasion" of Brazilian air space by UFOs. Both, Ozires and
Moreira Lima, are friends of Monteiro and the first told him
details of his sighting. Ozires is at this moment being
contacted by Brazilian UFO Magazine for new statements.
UFO Official Night in Brazil
As it's known, the government just released a very important
document about the mentioned UFO Official Night in Brazil, in
which it is admitted that the observed objects were solid and
reflected somehow intelligence, additional to the fact that
made amazing maneuvers. The document can be downloaded at:
Index of /documentos/night. With this disclosure,
the main matter of the interview, naturally, was the occurrence
on May 19th 1986, which was confirmed in different ways by
Monteiro, including details unknown until the moment. It is
attributed to him some strong statements about the facts, given
at that time. For example, the officer said that for many years
these cases have been registered by the Air Force and that the
UFOs went from 250 to 1.500 km/h in seconds. Monteiro also
said that FAB recorded the entire event on tape. These facts
are now complemented by him.
Always referring to the term electronic abnormalities, with
the lack of a better explanation to what those object were,
according to Monteiro, the interviewee said the speed of the
UFOs was really astonishing and that the fighters could get
closer to them only for a few moments, because the artifacts
would escape away at extremely high speed. There was no way for
us to get closer, so we abandoned the search, which last for
many hours in that night.
There is a reference stating the UFOs achieved the speed of Mach
15, and about i, Monteiro said it is possible, although the
instruments measured only near to 3.500 km/h, because beyond
that, there could be natural reading distortions. About FAB
recording the facts on videotape, he said that, actually, the
institution especially Cindacta always registered what
happened on the radar screens, and everything was registered in
appropriate recordings done from those instruments. But pointed
out that every 30 days the tapes are deleted and reused.
Visited by other cosmic species
The interviewee was cautious during the whole time. But,
initially closed, was giving up to the pressure of the
interviewers and making clear that, as other graduated officers
of the country, also he had the clear notion that we are being
visited by other cosmic species. Although at the beginning
referred to the UFOs as electronic abnormalities, gradually
started talking about "they", to refer to its crew members, and
"ships" in order to effectively describe what their vehicles
were, mentioning also its "technology". Also referred openly to
the intelligence behind the phenomenon, giving clear notion that
we are before superior civilizations.
This was the most striking statement given during the interview,
at the end of the session, when he again mentioned the case in
which his men were shooting at the flying saucer in Gama, and he
had to immediately intervene because the reaction could be
tragic to us. For that, he used as analogy the Mantell Case,
occurred in USA in 1948, in which a pilot was found death and
his plane was destroyed after a pursuit to an UFO. For that,
the fighters, when chasing those "electronic abnormalities", did
it with caution. By the end of the conversation, when feeling
more comfortable with the interviewers, he was referring to the
abnormalities almost laughing of his own interpretation of the
phenomenon and admitting the use of the expression only because
of the lack of an UFO on hands to say what they exactly are.
Support to the freedom of information campaign
Finally, the lieutenant-brigadier Socrates da Costa Monteiro is
one additional person from the Brazilian military circle who,
recognizing the serious mission of the ufologists of Brazilian
UFO Magazine on the pursue of these questions, supports the
campaign UFOs: Freedom of Information Now, conducted by the
Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU). He, like his
colleagues previously interviewed, among them the brigadier Jose
Carlos Pereira and the colonels Uyranga Hollanda and Antonio
Celente Videira, admitted the seriousness of the ufological
manifestation and the need of treating it in a straight way. And
declared: The files must be opened and you must keep your
action with the government, in order to ensure it happens.
The full content of this interview will soon be published by
Brazilian UFO Magazine,
PORTAL UFO__Revista Brasileira de Ufologia.
Photos can be downloaded here:
Index of /public/socrates.
Translation thanks to Wander Alcaraz, volunteer.
A. J. Gevaerd,Editor, Brazilian UFO Magazine
Coordinator, Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU)
National Director, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
PORTAL UFO__Revista Brasileira de Ufologia
