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I eluded to the same thing and this is one thing that is just a wrong association. UFO does not = Alien. There are any number of things it could be (including alien/ET), but too many people associate UFO with ET and that is part of the problem with UFO's in general.

What other thing can it be? Rule out black ops.
 
What other thing can it be? Rule out black ops.

Jeez, I mean you're not doing a good job of selling everyone on this apparent proof of aliens here.


1. We don't even know who "smuggled" it out of Nellis. Maybe it is a complete hoax. Maybe it was intentionally leaked as misinformation or disinformation. The story is that the alleged person who smuggled it didn't even see anything. Sounds like a messenger. A messenger that also made a sum of money selling it. Either way there are gaps where there should be people named. Lack of corroboration is always tricky.
2. Sometimes when objects are filmed, the play of lighting, etc, can make an object seem to change shape when in fact it is not changing shape. The variety of cameras and other variables could account for the seemingly morphing status of this object.
3. The area where it was filmed is an area for testing secret projects. This is well known. Could it be that this secret testing facility performed some kind of experiment that was captured by film?? The object doesn't seem so far advanced that it is well beyond our current technology. I would hazard to guess that people would be amazed and perhaps scared at the level of technology we have achieved.
4. It is some phenomenon that we are unfamiliar with. If we look at some of the historic UFO literature we see morphing lights in Tehran. We see weird rotating luminous phenomenon in Kansas. We see objects splitting and floating in the valleys of Norway. We see all kinds of stuff that appear to have actually happened but are just plain mysterious. Still, why does this have to be aliens?? Could there be some enigmatic phenomenons on our planet that are very rare and not understood that would fit the decriptions??

I just happen to think of aliens as the last possibility and the least likely. After eveything else is exhausted then perhaps that may be a possibility. I think there are many possibilities for the Nellis video. We do not see the thing land and Mork come out to greet everyone. That may sound condescending and I really don't mean it that way, but when someone says "proof" they have to show just that, "proof". This doesn't seem like proof to me. It is interesting sure, but I wouldn't jump to aliens from some star system from a single video. Just my opinion.
 
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[FONT=&quot] A study of the Nellis Range UFO.<o></o>[/FONT]
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I may be a rarity. I’ve had an ET encounter and I’m not reluctant to interject it into an argument. Of course, I don’t use it as a trump card.
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A UFO, with appearance, movement and uncommon trajectory, which do not have a natural explanation; that had supplementary mystery about it when it expanded and contracted, and undergone morphing, and displayed solid and gaseous states, while subduing a radar return signature and put it to sleep and left technical experts feeling that their common sense had been abducted.
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You touched on “hoax”, and the twinsters, “misinfo” and “disinfo”…lightening does “tricks” such as “changing shapes”…Multiple cameras and other variables that may produce “morphing”.( When one mentions aliens, these nefarious motifs come crawling out of the woodwork).
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Now the black ops touch sneaking in as a “secret project”. This was drawn from Martin Powell’s article on S30. Then some confusion…statement: “object not so far advanced” countered by “ it would amazed and scare others” and “It is mysterious” .Then a whimper of a plea…”Why aliens, why not just enigmatic phenomenon?”
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LOOK AT THE CRAFT. What have experienced, aviation experts , professional observers said about what they witnessed?
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[FONT=&quot]“The footage has been studied by both UFO researchers & aviation experts alike, but to date no-one has been able to provide an explanation as to what the object is, how it is propelled or how it is able to perform the maneuvers it is seen to do.”<o>
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[FONT=&quot]“Numerous researchers have commented that the object changes its shape from frame to frame, even appearing as a "fuzzy, gassy cloud" at one point. Many commentators have already established that the object comprises three or four 'bumps' or 'spheres' and a dark appendage, often described as being 'in the center'.”<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“Another rounded extension can be seen facing forward about half way up the object's body. This is probably the starboard lobe projection in a forward facing position. If this is a correct identification - as the model seems to suggest - then it implies that the port and starboard projections are capable of moving forward and downward, independently of each other.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“In addition to its appearance and behavior, some remarkable claims have been made about the object's performance capabilities, by both actual witnesses and later researchers. Among these is that the object "traveled 13 miles in six seconds", that "it moved very, very slow and then it moved very, very fast" and that "it did right angles [and] straight, horizontal climbs". During its "surveillance period", the object continues along its flight path, moving sideways for much of the time, and even backwards for eight seconds after [/FONT]<st1:time hour="23" minute="22">[FONT=&quot]23:22:47[/FONT]</st1:time>[FONT=&quot].”

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[FONT=&quot][/FONT] [FONT=&quot]“The manner in which the Nellis UFO is seen to maneuver with 'confidence' suggests that it may have the ability to operate autonomously, i.e. with a built-in level of 'intelligence'. It may even have wandered out of bounds by its 'own' mistake. John Velez likened the Nellis UFO's behavior to that of a fly, and this is certainly a good comparison when one examines its movement and the way it appears to respond to its environment.9 The physical and behavioral similarity to an insect has much in common with the new generation of 'micro-air robots', some of which are based on the principles of insect flight.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“The structure of the Nellis object, on the other hand, is far removed from any known aircraft flying today. Its component parts appear flexible and they can activate very rapidly. Put in conventional terms, this 'aerial robot' appears to combine lighter-than-air technology with a unique form of vectored thrust.”[/FONT]
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The craft accelerated from -60mph to -600mph in -10 sec. VERTICALLY
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</o>You have done what every debunker does when they deny an ET reality. You’ve reduced the image of the craft to an utterance which negates the image and does away with its sign.
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If you want to debunk anyone, debunk the witnesses!
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I expect to return to this topic on another thread.
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"You have done what every debunker does when they deny an ET reality.
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If you want to debunk anyone, debunk the witnesses!"

This is exactly what Bassett would say. I'm not trying to debunk anything. I'm just not convinced it is ET. Apparently you are and I suppose there is no use offering anything else because you wouldn't even consider it anyway.

Could you tell me exactly who the witnesses of this object are BTW??

Look, I don't want to go back and forth here because it isn't useful when one person "knows" what it is and the other looks at all the other potential possibilities. I don't deny the possibility of aliens or whatever you might call them. In fact I have a feeling something quite weird is going on. But some of the sightings seem to represent an Earthly phenomenon. One that is basically unknown, rare, and strange. Others are quite different appearing like a metallic craft. And everything inbetween.

What I am saying about technology (our tech) is that is is expanding and developing at a rapid rate. People don't know what we are capable of and what types of contraptions we have actually made and tested. We are on the verge of invisibility, genetic adaptation, quantum computers, remote or autonomous drones, teleportation and many applications that a normal person would swear doesn't exist. I'm not saying we have perfected anything, but there is a lot of research in these areas among many others. Take that for what it is worth.

Still I would be interested in hearing your experience even though we disagree in other areas.
 
You have presented eveything I've heard many times over. But your attitude and sincerity sets you apart.
I'll continue with this after I spend many more hours analysing the data.
 
What other thing can it be? Rule out black ops.

Pupilstutor,

Let me explain something here. It is a basic tenant of this forum, if not in all Ufology, that what we call UFOs have not been proven to contain 'aliens' in the sense that said 'aliens' are from different planets and solar systems and have traveled here to play tag with us. Just because you don't know what they are is not a good enough reason to insist they are 'from outer space.' Such an explanation does not fit all the facts we know about at least some UFO encounters. It's a presumption to call them 'aliens,' and it is naive.

Further, we're not going to 'rule out black ops.' Why should we? That's quite arbitrary. What reasoning is there to 'rule out black ops?' Certainly the government woukld like us to believe sightings of Stealth aircraft, etc. are UFOs. There is plenty of evidence that they at least encourage this kind of thinking. Given that the government has even admitted this, what good reason do we have for ruling out black ops?

I think that if you arbitraily limit the number of answers you will accept, then you have vastly reduced your chances for getting the correct answer.
 
^^^ .... and on top of that, if I was forced to make some sort of bet, I would put my entire life savings on it being secret military tech. Actually, make it double my life savings...

So thats 160bucks on it being military.
 
Tenant - I'm not renting
Tenet - opinion, dogma
Tenets use order-words. - I'm not buying.

I know the nuances of the UFO as an object is thrown around indiscrimanately. The thrust of my argument was quite simple, if you excluded black ops. If you are a debunker or skeptic, most if not all.sightings of a legitimate UFO would be attributed to a man-made object. What you call government could very easily release their UFO files and everything would be made crystal clear. But what are they doing?

At the Rendlesham forest incidents, NSA agents arrived and debriefed most of the witnesses who encountered a UFO. They intimidated, drugged and threatened (bullets are cheap) physical bodily harm on US airmen who would not toe the line.At least, one airman was held hostage for three days in a secluded area. Would this episode " fit the facts we know about, at least some UFO encounters" ( which facts and encounters are tenet?).

What am I missing? There are at least a billion galaxies with at least a billion suns in each galaxy. And we shouldn't talk about aliens?

Language is made not to be believed but to be obeyed and to compel obedience. Narrative are not communications of what one has seen but what one has heard what some one else said to you. It goes from one who has seen to one who has not, from the second to the third, neither of whom has seen. In The Event I describe what I had seen. I had no tenets to guide me.And there were aliens involved.
 
I don't think people on this forum are discounting the ETH entirely. It is just one of several possibilities. If you saw an alien being and a craft that is your perception of what happened and that perception may or may not be literal or nuts and bolts real.

I do agree that the language makes this phenomena difficult to think and talk about.

No one here I think is saying you didn't have an experience just becasue we are not all ETH fans.
 
Thanks for the English lesson, Pops. The point is that you are assuming aliens and you are purposely excluding other potential explanations. You can't do that and expect to be taken seriously. Rendlesham Forest is irrelevant to that issue. (Let's see. Everything spelled correctly? Yup. Looks like it. -send-)
 
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UFO intruder at Nellis AFB.

I'll be following the moving reality. What's it doing?

The craft appears as a rogue body. It's not supposed to be there. Past practices of an unexpected event dictate that no information be transmitted. Here we have a surprise, a wonder, a curiosity. No one has an answer. All we get is questions. What is it? Where did it come from?

A singularity intrudes on a showcase display... This is followed by buzz that either an alien anomaly was caught on film or solid planes are mutating into gaseous clouds.

A wandering craft is moving about 30mph.It detects a detecting device (radar) and makes a beeline for it with speed up to 600mph, while at one point, making a 90 degree turn. It shoots under the radar’s auto positioning. It sizes up the radar, identifies its purpose and starts to neutralize it so no identification patterns of the craft’s nature would register. During this process, the craft darts back and forth, moving sideways on a dime. Gaseous emissions are visible above the radar device. When the radar’s lines no longer are sensitive to the craft’s figure of flight, it shows up deadline. The craft moves upwards and reacts when it 'sees' the line move upwards. The craft determines that it is being tracked. It looks like a fly ascending upwards, diagonally at about 60 degree angle. It climbs above the clouds and starts throwing out emissions of gases. It concentrates in a particular area above the deadline and deposits gobs of gas. The diagonal pathway below (gases and clouds) rises up towards the deadline. The ‘ alien ‘ craft starts to paint in, fill up the area between two pathways, one from beneath and another forming above. The craft moves erratically in the area filling it with gases.

Pay close attention to the gas gob above the deadline. If you miss it the first time, replay it and pay close attention to what is about to happen. The camera man said he was blinded by the sun. The camera wasn’t. Watch three things happen in sync. An electromagnetic field has developed on top of the screen. A rotation of clouds, one moving left downwards, one moving right upwards, rotate 180 degrees. A light force strikes downwards penetrating the gas gob. Laser beams of light are emitted from a ‘figure’ that looks solid. The beams flare out of the bottom, stretching, tightening, and intensifying. The ‘figure’ disappears. Simultaneously, the alien craft which was behind some clouds on the left of the screen moves to the center giving the impression that it was in the ‘figure’ that the beams of light passed through. The craft moves over the center spewing gases. It looks like its turning into a square gaseous cloud. The gas gob is taking the shape of a bag: a container that is preparing for the reception of the square gaseous cloud. which enters it from the top. As it descends into the ‘bag’ the only thing visible is the ‘black grille’ which is bouncing on top of a gaseous cloud. The black grille sinks into the cloud and is no longer seen. The video ends where everything looks gaseous. The ‘alien’ craft along with the ‘robotic’ grille, transfigured and vanished. Why wasn’t the last two seconds not shown?

When the laser goes out and the ' figure ' vanishes, two large clouds explode downwards on both sides of the deadline. After this explosion the two passageways retreat, one upwards, the other downwards. A space free of gas and clouds reappear. The alien craft again spews the area with gases, concentrating on another gob of gas. The area becomes thick with gases and clouds. At the end ,the alien craft, once solid becomes gaseous. It had mutated in flight. The black element appeared robotic. Its last appearance was bouncing on top of a white square and sinking into it. This was similar to the robot I called Mac. It ended on top of a black rectangle and cut its way into it.A remarkable similarity.
 
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The craft appears as a rogue body. It's not supposed to be there. Past practices of an unexpected event dictate that no information be transmitted. Here we have a surprise, a wonder, a curiosity. No one has an answer. All we get is questions. What is it? Where did it come from?

A singularity intrudes on a showcase display... This is followed by buzz that either an alien anomaly was caught on film or solid planes are mutating into gaseous clouds.

A wandering craft is moving about 30mph.It detects a detecting device (radar) and makes a beeline for it with speed up to 600mph, while at one point, making a 90 degree turn. It shoots under the radar’s auto positioning. It sizes up the radar, identifies its purpose and starts to neutralize it so no identification patterns of the craft’s nature would register. During this process, the craft darts back and forth, moving sideways on a dime. Gaseous emissions are visible above the radar device. When the radar’s lines no longer are sensitive to the craft’s figure of flight, it shows up deadline. The craft moves upwards and reacts when it 'sees' the line move upwards. The craft determines that it is being tracked. It looks like a fly ascending upwards, diagonally at about 60 degree angle. It climbs above the clouds and starts throwing out emissions of gases. It concentrates in a particular area above the deadline and deposits gobs of gas. The diagonal pathway below (gases and clouds) rises up towards the deadline. The ‘ alien ‘ craft starts to paint in, fill up the area between two pathways, one from beneath and another forming above. The craft moves erratically in the area filling it with gases.

Pay close attention to the gas gob above the deadline. If you miss it the first time, replay it and pay close attention to what is about to happen. The camera man said he was blinded by the sun. The camera wasn’t. Watch three things happen in sync. An electromagnetic field has developed on top of the screen. A rotation of clouds, one moving left downwards, one moving right upwards, rotate 180 degrees. A light force strikes downwards penetrating the gas gob. Laser beams of light are emitted from a ‘figure’ that looks solid. The beams flare out of the bottom, stretching, tightening, and intensifying. The ‘figure’ disappears. Simultaneously, the alien craft which was behind some clouds on the left of the screen moves to the center giving the impression that it was in the ‘figure’ that the beams of light passed through. The craft moves over the center spewing gases. It looks like its turning into a square gaseous cloud. The gas gob is taking the shape of a bag: a container that is preparing for the reception of the square gaseous cloud. which enters it from the top. As it descends into the ‘bag’ the only thing visible is the ‘black grille’ which is bouncing on top of a gaseous cloud. The black grille sinks into the cloud and is no longer seen. The video ends where everything looks gaseous. The ‘alien’ craft along with the ‘robotic’ grille, transfigured and vanished. Why wasn’t the last two seconds not shown?

When the laser goes out and the ' figure ' vanishes, two large clouds explode downwards on both sides of the deadline. After this explosion the two passageways retreat, one upwards, the other downwards. A space free of gas and clouds reappear. The alien craft again spews the area with gases, concentrating on another gob of gas. The area becomes thick with gases and clouds. At the end ,the alien craft, once solid becomes gaseous. It had mutated in flight. The black element appeared robotic. Its last appearance was bouncing on top of a white square and sinking into it. This was similar to the robot I called Mac. It ended on top of a black rectangle and cut its way into it.A remarkable similarity.
 
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A brief recap of the remarkable coincidences between the alien intruder and my alien encounter:

1.black robotic grille bounced upon a white square cloud and fell inside.

Mac the knife cut its way into black rectangle and fell inside.

2.Both events rotated around an axis.

3.One container absorbed another assemblage.

4.Both events included a diagonal incline.

5.One second before the video's end, the remains of the alien craft fell through the 'bag' and appeared inert. Did the 'bag' subsequently...vanish?

The transformations in The Event revealed inert assemblages.

The synchronism of the two Events reveal a predictable pattern in particular stages of alien technology in operation.
 
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