What is China real objective Peace or Empire

[Trajanus]

While we have been wasting a lot of money on endless wars

The egregious example--Iraq 2003 onward.

Wall Street profited largely due to the the labor and innovation from China.

The former certainly. But the Chinese, like the Soviets, aren't as good at innovation as copying.

No one said much about the abuse of Tibet over the years. A lot of companies didn't mind the arrangement of having authoritarian control over labor in China or authoritarian control in general there or here apparently either. The god fearing flag waving working and middle class America consumers like the cheap stuff they can get from China. The Chinese have bought us off.

The US or West doesn't have a problem with authoritarian states as long as they don't aspire to be hegemons. I find it ironic that Americans believe strongly in democracy after losing their jobs due to the advantages of authoritarian control over labor.

 

[Randall]

... A lot of companies didn't mind the arrangement of having authoritarian control over labor in China or authoritarian control in general there or here apparently either. The god fearing flag waving working and middle class America consumers like the cheap stuff they can get from China. The Chinese have bought us off.

Like John Alexander said during his last appearance, "China plays the long game". maybe those who think SARS-CoV-2 was developed in a lab and deliberately let loose on airliners to destabilize the West aren't as looney as their detractors make them out to be. Too many pieces fit to simply write it all off as a series of misfortunate coincidences. For all we know, we're already at war with China and just don't know it or want to admit it. They're still holding Canadian citizens on trumped-up charges over the Huawei scandal.

Huawei Security Scandal: Everything You Need to Know

Is it safe to use Huawei phones and should the manufacturer be trusted to make 5G network equipment?

www.forbes.com

Interesting point about the "authoritarian control over labor". Seems to me that the only thing separating Western labor from complete authoritarian control of corporate leaders are the labor unions, yet they've been under constant attack by at least half of our so-called "democratic" society who want s to see them dismantled.