starise
Paranormal Adept
Hi Ufology, good thread idea.
This seems to be maybe two different ideas stemming into the same subject.
A. How we perceive the world.
B. Our worldview based on how we perceive the world.
No doubt about that one in my mind. " The natural man receives not the things of the spirit, they are foolishness to him"- Biblical loose quote.
I'm not really combining religious with spiritual in all cases. There can certainly be religious indoctrination devoid of anything spiritual. But I think the thought holds here that what the natural non spiritual man sees as religion includes the spiritual in many cases since non believers tend to call most things spiritual religious...as in He's religious.
This in and of itself presents many preconceptions that are sometimes true and many times not true.
Spiritual won't always seem logical. In fact it will seldom seem logical to the math, facts, only data minded person. In Christianity faith is seen as a strength and this much is said in the Bible in multiple places. The difference between faith in God and faith in anything else is enormous.
As some of you already know. My word view is Christian. I don't come here much because long ago I realized that this is where many people go who have denounced, ignored, not found peace with that view and so the things of the paranormal make yet another place to look. Coming here is like putting my head into a cannon and asking someone to fire it, but I think my view is valid and this is really the only reason I would dare to say that here. IOW if I didn't believe it, hold credence to it, what's the point?
I have never liked the term "apologist" or "apologetics". I don't feel the need to apologize for anything. I have followed some apologist work and I don't really believe that it's possible to convince through sheer intellectual debate. It has value, just not that kind of value.
I read somewhere that all of our input first goes through an emotional glass.
There is no question Jesus exists in my mind. He has risen again and sits at the right hand of the Father. No question at all. No question that He holds the keys to forgiveness and happiness. Jesus made the claim that He is the ONLY way. No man comes to the Father, but by HIM.....He said, " I am the way, the truth and the life".
Is this monotheistic? Yes. Is this limiting other ways/methods? Yes. Is it so hard to see that one God had one way? Imagine how confusing it would be if there were dozens of ways? What if I picked one way that wasn't the right way? How would I know if I had chosen the right one? The fact that there is only one real choice makes this all very easy.
Do I expect most here to agree with that?...from all my past experiences. No. Do I think that changes the outcome? No.
This seems to be maybe two different ideas stemming into the same subject.
A. How we perceive the world.
B. Our worldview based on how we perceive the world.
Good points, but I tend to think that it's the logical brain that tries to do away with religion.
No doubt about that one in my mind. " The natural man receives not the things of the spirit, they are foolishness to him"- Biblical loose quote.
I'm not really combining religious with spiritual in all cases. There can certainly be religious indoctrination devoid of anything spiritual. But I think the thought holds here that what the natural non spiritual man sees as religion includes the spiritual in many cases since non believers tend to call most things spiritual religious...as in He's religious.
This in and of itself presents many preconceptions that are sometimes true and many times not true.
Spiritual won't always seem logical. In fact it will seldom seem logical to the math, facts, only data minded person. In Christianity faith is seen as a strength and this much is said in the Bible in multiple places. The difference between faith in God and faith in anything else is enormous.
As some of you already know. My word view is Christian. I don't come here much because long ago I realized that this is where many people go who have denounced, ignored, not found peace with that view and so the things of the paranormal make yet another place to look. Coming here is like putting my head into a cannon and asking someone to fire it, but I think my view is valid and this is really the only reason I would dare to say that here. IOW if I didn't believe it, hold credence to it, what's the point?
I have never liked the term "apologist" or "apologetics". I don't feel the need to apologize for anything. I have followed some apologist work and I don't really believe that it's possible to convince through sheer intellectual debate. It has value, just not that kind of value.
I read somewhere that all of our input first goes through an emotional glass.
There is no question Jesus exists in my mind. He has risen again and sits at the right hand of the Father. No question at all. No question that He holds the keys to forgiveness and happiness. Jesus made the claim that He is the ONLY way. No man comes to the Father, but by HIM.....He said, " I am the way, the truth and the life".
Is this monotheistic? Yes. Is this limiting other ways/methods? Yes. Is it so hard to see that one God had one way? Imagine how confusing it would be if there were dozens of ways? What if I picked one way that wasn't the right way? How would I know if I had chosen the right one? The fact that there is only one real choice makes this all very easy.
Do I expect most here to agree with that?...from all my past experiences. No. Do I think that changes the outcome? No.