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[musictomyears]

musictomyears you have got to be kidding me. are you serious about the breaking glasses and how they broke? did you save the glasses? do you have any pics? has anyone else ever heard of such a thing?

I am quite serious, we had so many glasses like that (and a few much weirder occurrences), that a well known para-psychologist and his film crew came along, to include us in a documentary about the paranormal.

I am not sure if there are still any of those broken glasses (or the vase) in existence, stored somewhere at my mother's place. Both her and myself moved house, several times over the last decades, and I haven't thought or talked about this phenomenon for a very long time. As I mentioned earlier, you are the first individual that I know of, outside my own family, to mention this effect, although it is highly likely that there are more people who have seen it happen.

My father died when I was six years old, and poltergeist-type events started to happen shortly after his death. For example, there was a 50 cm tall, handcrafted glass vase, which one night completely imploded upon itself, shattering into hundreds of pieces. I remember also a photo of my dad's discolouring over night, and falling over.

We could see my father's grave from our living room window during winter, after the trees had dropped all their leaves. I remember vividly how my mother called me to the window one night, and pointed at a number of small, blue-greenish balls of light, dancing around my dad's grave.

So, in a way, I grew up with what is considered paranormal activity, however I never liked it that much. Even today, I'd rather have non of that in my life, since it still leaves me wondering what the deeper causes might be.

 

[pixelsmith]

hmm. very strange. it still gives me the willies when i think about it. the glass does look almost laser cut. what really interests me is the sound it made when it broke. it was VERY loud and very "fine crystal" like in tone but it was an everyday bar-type, pint beer glass. a very cheap one.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

I am quite serious, we had so many glasses like that (and a few much weirder occurrences), that a well known para-psychologist and his film crew came along, to include us in a documentary about the paranormal.

I am not sure if there are still any of those broken glasses (or the vase) in existence, stored somewhere at my mother's place. Both her and myself moved house, several times over the last decades, and I haven't thought or talked about this phenomenon for a very long time. As I mentioned earlier, you are the first individual that I know of, outside my own family, to mention this effect, although it is highly likely that there are more people who have seen it happen.

My father died when I was six years old, and poltergeist-type events started to happen shortly after his death. For example, there was a 50 cm tall, handcrafted glass vase, which one night completely imploded upon itself, shattering into hundreds of pieces. I remember also a photo of my dad's discolouring over night, and falling over.

We could see my father's grave from our living room window during winter, after the trees had dropped all their leaves. I remember vividly how my mother called me to the window one night, and pointed at a number of small, blue-greenish balls of light, dancing around my dad's grave.

So, in a way, I grew up with what is considered paranormal activity, however I never liked it that much. Even today, I'd rather have non of that in my life, since it still leaves me wondering what the deeper causes might be.

What parapsychologist investigated your claim? What documentary was your case in? I'd love to view it.

When my father's father past away, there was this plant that my father's father gave him that never bloomed. The day after his passing it bloomed one flower, pointing toward us, not the sun/window. It remained during my father's mourning period and then went away, never to bloom again I don't think. Could be a coincidence, but my father seemed to think it was a sign.

Right before his passing he called my father and told him that he loved him, which he never does. They had a nice long chat. He died soon after from a stroke. So far as we know, he didn't have any idea that he was going to die soon. Could be another coincidence, or maybe at some level his soul new it was time and he wanted to say goodbye.

 

[musictomyears]

What parapsychologist investigated your claim? What documentary was your case in? I'd love to view it.

Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions
http://www.igpp.de/english/varia/bender.htm

That was a very long tome ago, in the late 60s. I don't think I ever watched the docu, but I do remember that Bender also published a book, featuring our case. My mother used to own a copy, but I am not sure if she still has it.

You need to understand that it took me many, many years to be able, and willing, to publicly talk about those occurrences. When my father died in a pretty horrible way, and strange things started to happen, they only added to the pain and confusion both me and my mother felt. There was nothing glamorous at all about those effects, quite the opposite. My mom only got in touch with Bender because she was looking for some answers concerning the weird happenings, but not to seek publicity. Bender told her that it was her own psycho-kinetic energies that caused the effects. Bender was a proponent of the animist theory, so he didn't believe in ghosts or spirits. At the time, his explanation was good enough for my mom, and she was content with it. To me, since I was too young to understand any of it, Bender's views were neither here nor there. I just wanted to live a normal life, and not be considered an oddball character, compared to other children. I never found any of the paranormal stuff scary as such, but rather disorienting. They also always reminded me of my father's death, which was painful.

 

[dreampsi]

Wow, the glass breaking things sounds creepy. As I was reading it, it seemed so familiar and I couldn't remember why. Then it hit me! I remember type of thing happening to me when I was a kid. I was probably 12 and I was washing up dishes from dinner. There was a regular glass on the table and I did not hear any "TINK" or breaking noises that I recall at all. All I remember is picking up the glass to wash it and the bottom of it stayed on the table but it wasn't 1" up, it was the VERY bottom probably only 1/4" was left. I remember thinking that my brother or someone played a joke, but no one said anything about it other than I was told to throw it in the trash. I remember it being so weird because it was perfectly circular like it was glued there then came loose but, of course, it was solid piece. Weird man ..I wouldn't have remembered that if I hadn't read that!!

 

[cottonzway]

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[Aaron LeClair]

Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions
http://www.igpp.de/english/varia/bender.htm

That was a very long tome ago, in the late 60s. I don't think I ever watched the docu, but I do remember that Bender also published a book, featuring our case. My mother used to own a copy, but I am not sure if she still has it.

You need to understand that it took me many, many years to be able, and willing, to publicly talk about those occurrences. When my father died in a pretty horrible way, and strange things started to happen, they only added to the pain and confusion both me and my mother felt. There was nothing glamorous at all about those effects, quite the opposite. My mom only got in touch with Bender because she was looking for some answers concerning the weird happenings, but not to seek publicity. Bender told her that it was her own psycho-kinetic energies that caused the effects. Bender was a proponent of the animist theory, so he didn't believe in ghosts or spirits. At the time, his explanation was good enough for my mom, and she was content with it. To me, since I was too young to understand any of it, Bender's views were neither here nor there. I just wanted to live a normal life, and not be considered an oddball character, compared to other children. I never found any of the paranormal stuff scary as such, but rather disorienting. They also always reminded me of my father's death, which was painful.

Oh. So nothing I can youtube then. Darn.

It's hard to differentiate between psychokinesis and a true apparition. I had a friend commit suicide and right after lights were flickering on and off and some other weird occurrences happened in the place he lived. He had like 4 roomates and many people were present when he ended his life. It may have been a coincidence, from the high emotions of the living, or perhaps my friend had something to do with it.

Most people here don't give others a hard time for speaking about their experiences. Unless questioning is considered giving someone a hard time. So, I wouldn't worry about it. We don't know who you are anyway

 

[Raevenskye]

Musictomyears, thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I haven't been on this board too long, but I haven't found anyone to be judgemental so far.

 

[musictomyears]

Oh. So nothing I can youtube then. Darn.

It's hard to differentiate between psychokinesis and a true apparition.

I'm afraid not. I wouldn't even know the title of the docu. One would have to sift through Bender's entire output as a film producer, in order to find the footage... And that's presuming any of it has been preserved.

Bender's main interest in our case was not so much the physical effects, but the fact that my father had had the most frightening dreams about "something falling on him", prior to the accident. In the event, he drove his car at night into a massive, uprooted tree, after a storm. He couldn't have seen it, since it was suspended above ground, and the headlights of his car shone right under it. He sustained fatal head injuries.

About the difference between "psychokinesis and a true apparition", I am not sure whether there is such as thing as psychokinesis. I very much subscribe to the spiritualist theory, in that all paranormal effects, which involve physical phenomena, are caused by forces outside our three-dimensional world. I tend to think that a great variety of spirit beings can use ethereal energies, or ectoplasm, from a human medium. Often the human medium is not aware of providing the energy, and is led to believe that he/she is actually causing the effects. A strong indicator for this mediumistic relationship is that the effects are very difficult to reproduce at will. In fact, this is generally not possible - the external forces act according to their own desires.