Wikileaks/ UFO information revealed

[Kieran]

Submitted by Javier Ortega

Forbes has a recent post regarding Julian Assange and the upcoming cable release that might put a damper on all hope about proof of UFOs existing. And yes, I’m sad.

In a WikiLeaks roundtable called “Live People’s Conference”, Assange put most of the rumors to rest this past Sunday as he stated that most of the references to UFOs in the upcoming cables are small references in passing and that the majority of the cables regarding UFOs are focused on UFO cults around the world. Mainly the infamous Raelian cult. If you have never heard of them, I suggest reading their manifesto, it’s…interesting to say the least.

So if you were expecting some major UFO gossip, or possibly were preparing to get the coordinates to underground UFO labs around the U.S. deserts, then you will be disappointed. UFO cults are on the rise and can be quite harmful (like any other cult). Remember ‘Heaven’s gate‘ ?

I’ve been looking out for possible cable leaks for the past month or so and have not come across any legitimate information. Most websites claim to have ‘secret inside knowledge’ on the UFO cables but as it turns out, they just wanted page views on their website. False claims are everywhere.

So here to settle the matter once and for all (maybe) is the first of the “Live People’s Conference” in which Assange is asked about UFOs from the publictega on February 8, 2011

 

[Sean Elifritz]

Not surprising at all. It's been demonstrated over and over again that the governments of the world know little or nothing more than civilian researchers about UFOs.

 

[Terjarv]

Not surprising at all. It's been demonstrated over and over again that the governments of the world know little or nothing more than civilian researchers about UFOs.

As I believe has been said on the Paracast, barely any of the information released is truly top secret. I would have to think that any UFO information wouldn't be low level government secrets (not to play down what has been released).


Anyway, does anyone really think Julian is guilty of his Swedish charges or that maybe its a setup?

 

[dyingsun]

I doubt it myself (that he is in fact guilty of these charges), then again, it very well might have happened. This was way before his name was widely known, I still think the victims testimony seems bizarre though. Also, I think Assange is a giant smug Asshat.

Wikileaks does and will continue, Assange or not. At least they got themselves mentioned in mainstream media.

 

[ArchieBedford]

Anyway, does anyone really think Julian is guilty of his Swedish charges or that maybe its a setup?

That's for a jury to decide - if he is indeed extradited. Swedish juries are not renowned globally for being corrupt. The case should be straightforward as a matter of law.

 

[Terjarv]

That's for a jury to decide - if he is indeed extradited. Swedish juries are not renowned globally for being corrupt. The case should be straightforward as a matter of law.

Asshattedness aside:

I wouldn't argue that Swedish juries would be corrupt but that he may have been setup by US or European govts to shut him down. There isn't much worse than being accused for a type of sexual crime. I guess its just another conspiracy.

 

[dyingsun]

McKinnon, Assange..it is telling that just one country wants to press charges somewhat.

 

[CapnG]

As I believe has been said on the Paracast, barely any of the information released is truly top secret. I would have to think that any UFO information wouldn't be low level government secrets (not to play down what has been released).

That's right, nothing over secret level has been released. If there is government info to be had, it's unlikely to wind up in Wikileaks' hands.

 

[Sean Elifritz]

That's right, nothing over secret level has been released. If there is government info to be had, it's unlikely to wind up in Wikileaks' hands.

OK, forget Wikileaks for a moment. Countries invade other countries. If governments are sitting on shocking information about UFOs it seems to me that when under threat of invasion they might say, "If you invade we'll spill everything" or "If America doesn't help us out of this we'll reveal everything we know." Not only are leaders put out of power due to invasions but sometimes they are even killed.

And this is just one question that can be asked. If ya' spend a few minutes thinking about it there are dozens of others that render the notion untenable.

 

[CapnG]

If governments are sitting on shocking information about UFOs it seems to me that when under threat of invasion they might say, "If you invade we'll spill everything" or "If America doesn't help us out of this we'll reveal everything we know."

That tends not to happen. And I don't mean in regards to UFOs I mean in any case. I don't get where this idea of invasion = disclosure is coming from.

 

[Sean Elifritz]

That tends not to happen. And I don't mean in regards to UFOs I mean in any case. I don't get where this idea of invasion = disclosure is coming from.

Well, what other global conspiracy do countries share that they can blackmail each other with? A UFO conspiracy would have to be a global one because the phenomenon is global.

 

[ArchieBedford]

Yeah. If they have an air force, then they know about it. Period.

 

[Sean Elifritz]

Yeah. If they have an air force, then they know about it. Period.

There's a difference between seeing something and knowing about it.

 

[ArchieBedford]

There's a difference between seeing something and knowing about it.

Eddie, if your air force comes up against UAPs on a regular or even irregular basis and pilots and radar ops report sightings/encounters, then over time the phenomenon will become recognised as something real. I've talked to a number of civilian and military pilots and career air force people over the years, mainly in the UK but also elsewhere, and they all know about it. All of them. You're not supposed to talk about encounters or sightings, but they all know they happen and are real.

By "know about it" do you mean understand what the phenomenon is, and its origin? If so then I'd agree with you that very few know this - possibly no-one. I just meant they know that UAP exist and are encountered, that's all.

 

[CapnG]

Well, what other global conspiracy do countries share that they can blackmail each other with? A UFO conspiracy would have to be a global one because the phenomenon is global.

That's not quite what I meant. In terms of leverage to effect political actions and/or military ones I don't see evidence of state secrets being used, at least not publically.

Let's take Iraq for example. Back in the 80s they were the USA's bestest buddies in the whole wide world and I'm sure Saddam had plenty of run-of-the-mill but never-the-less very dirty American laundry he could have threatened to air to stop the invasion in 2003. He didn't.

What that tells me is one of three things:

A) Those secrets were of no consequence

B) Those secrets were well known

C) That's simply not how the game is played

Given that A is unlikely and B is probably only 50% likely C seems like a winner. Otherwise every time a regime threatened to collapsed we'd get a fresh litany of crimes and misdemeanors but as I said that tends not to happen.

 

[Sean Elifritz]

That's not quite what I meant. In terms of leverage to effect political actions and/or military ones I don't see evidence of state secrets being used, at least not publically.

Let's take Iraq for example. Back in the 80s they were the USA's bestest buddies in the whole wide world and I'm sure Saddam had plenty of run-of-the-mill but never-the-less very dirty American laundry he could have threatened to air to stop the invasion in 2003. He didn't.

What that tells me is one of three things:

A) Those secrets were of no consequence

B) Those secrets were well known

C) That's simply not how the game is played

Given that A is unlikely and B is probably only 50% likely C seems like a winner. Otherwise every time a regime threatened to collapsed we'd get a fresh litany of crimes and misdemeanors but as I said that tends not to happen.

B seems like the easy answer to me.

There are approximately 200 nations in the world, each with their own intelligence agencies, politicians, and agendas. To keep proof of something like this under wraps in a uniform kind of way with all those different interests at play seems impossible times 10.

If I were Saddam Hussein and I knew that Americans were keeping ET proof hidden from citizens and that it was supposedly the greatest secret in the world I would definitely threaten to use it against them before allowing my own sons to be killed and then facing the hangman myself.

 

[Terjarv]

B seems like the easy answer to me.

There are approximately 200 nations in the world, each with their own intelligence agencies, politicians, and agendas. To keep proof of something like this under wraps in a uniform kind of way with all those different interests at play seems impossible times 10.

If I were Saddam Hussein and I knew that Americans were keeping ET proof hidden from citizens and that it was supposedly the greatest secret in the world I would definitely threaten to use it against them before allowing my own sons to be killed and then facing the hangman myself.

Saddam hasn't known anything about US intelligence for years. At the time of the invasion he was a desperate loser with as much influence as I have outside of Iraq.

He would have never had any access to ET UFO intelligence, if there is any of course. All Saddam could ever say is: "we see UFOs too!"

You can throw around plenty of other recent examples like Noriega. Mubarak's name could also be tossed around but I guarantee he doesn't even possess the Intel on what Obama has for breakfast in the morning!

If you look at UFOs from a black ops perspective and we posses some type of advanced technology then of course Saddam wouldn't know because its our own military tech.

Aside from UFOs which would be double top secret (double secret probation), there is plenty of other critical info that would come up first.

 

[Sean Elifritz]

Saddam hasn't known anything about US intelligence for years. At the time of the invasion he was a desperate loser with as much influence as I have outside of Iraq.

He would have never had any access to ET UFO intelligence, if there is any of course. All Saddam could ever say is: "we see UFOs too!"

You can throw around plenty of other recent examples like Noriega. Mubarak's name could also be tossed around but I guarantee he doesn't even possess the Intel on what Obama has for breakfast in the morning!

If you look at UFOs from a black ops perspective and we posses some type of advanced technology then of course Saddam wouldn't know because its our own military tech.

Aside from UFOs which would be double top secret (double secret probation), there is plenty of other critical info that would come up first.

First of all, Saddam was just one example. There's a couple hundred other governments out there. But I guess I get it. Saddam, despite his having intelligence assets to rely on, knew nothing about the "cover-up" yet somehow people at this forum do. Yep, makes sense.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

The so called UFO stash? if it not been destroyed already? will only be released when the people at the top of the Military & Corporate elite decide its the right time which will be never most likely and if they did majority of the Worlds population would be 'gobsmacked' maybe!

The wikileaks would have not been privy to that information if it exist it would be old fashion or highly advanced method of signals communication?

 

[Terjarv]

First of all, Saddam was just one example. There's a couple hundred other governments out there. But I guess I get it. Saddam, despite his having intelligence assets to rely on, knew nothing about the "cover-up" yet somehow people at this forum do. Yep, makes sense.

What cover ups do we know about definitively without a doubt?

Saddam is a good example because he was extra crazy, if he knew anything substantial he would've said something.

If other govts. had the knowledge then state secrets would always be released in situations like this. Look what happened when the Soviet Union collapsed, if they knew so much about us they could've told everyone on their way off the stage...