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10 Questions for Al Gore.

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Actually, I've considered this idea that gravity was, for whatever reason, weaker in the distant past. We don't really understand gravity, and so I think this is an idea worth considering.
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Sure it is worth considering. I suppose this really might deserve it's own thread. But where is the evidence for such an anomaly. As Tommy said I think is has to due with available elements in the rich atmosphere at the time. The trees were also huge also. But when scientists try to explain if or why or how an animal is supposed to operate they sometimes get it wrong. The bumblebee wasn't supposed to be able to fly, but it does.

But we've seen (at least hypothesized) strange differences in the past. The expansion of space and time at unbelievable rates. So fast that we had to invent explantions like "inflatons" that are the backbone of inflationary theory. The variable speed of light (VSL)is a theory that may explain the horizon problem in the big bang.

Either way I hane never seen a coherent theory of variable gravity even though there might be one. If there is, I'd like to read it. Send your links if you have them. Certainly we like to think we know it all. But I'm just guessing that we don't. Ahhh, the vanity.
 
The Earth has gradually gained mass in the form of dust from meteors, so theoretically the gravity would have been less in the time of dinosaurs. I don't see how it would be possible to calculate the amount, but I would guess it's not much. In the early stages of terrestrial life, when most of the really gigantic bugs were around, the air was so rich in oxygen that some scientists believe spontaneous combustion may have been a problem.
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...how much it takes, land wise, to support a human... it's a pretty decent amount. Then they have to consider how much of the land is actually arable, and then, for how many years will it STAY that way (having to deal with crop rotation and soil replenishment and all that). But the single *biggest* issue, I believe, would be... water.

don't you worry E.T., up where I live, my Provincial government is figuring out a way to give away our water to anybody with a business license and a donation to their politicial party, and the only thing holding them back is figuring out how to make us pay for the privilege of our water being stolen...
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well, that pretty much wrecked the rest of that post for me :confused:

... if you think the gravity is too heavy to let them fly today, take a look around any airport. bet those beasties don't weigh nearly as much as a hercules transport, fully loaded.

there have also been some discoveries made to indicate many of the larger dinosaurs did not have completely solid bones, they were permeated with holes, which carried oxygen directly to where it was needed.

before anyone jumps in and states bones with holes would not be strong enough to carry the weight of a massive dinosaur, take a gander at some of the strongest metal or wood beams. many of them are honeycombed and are stronger than solid.

my ten cents, for what they are worth...

Hi,

I agree with what you are saying and that is why we have skyscrapers and 747s because we can build them strong enough. I know that it is accepted/known that an elephant is just about as big a land mammal that can exist today because of today's gravity. I will say though i didn't know about the dinasuar discoveries with hollow or honeycombed bones. However, I wonder that if even with honeycombed bones that some of the biggest sauropods could exist today....some of them were so blummin' huge!:D I still maintain that we know so little about gravity....and nature! We humans so often say that something in the nature is not possible only to have nature promptly prove us wrong.

Sorry to have gone so way off topic (what has this to do with Al Gore?)...and very sorry to have ruined the post for you....but i do like to discuss things and throw things into the mix...I just hope that I never offend...
 
How was gravity different in the past and more importantly why?? I know this is off topic, but it doesn't make sense. Could you provide some more informational links on this because I have never heard of it. As far as I know gravity is not a variable, it is a constant based on mass.

Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I will do some digging so I can find where I learned this. It may be complete speculation (probably...but not on my part as I am only relaying the info I learned), but the argument was quite convincing, and kinda made sense. However I am not convinced that gravity is a constant...personal opinion from all that I have seen on the topic and my limited years of studying physics....Do we actually know for sure what gravity is? Everything exerts a gravitational pull...but why? Why do we have gravity? Sorry I will shut up...I am way way off topic (again!...Gonna get booted out for this before long!) and as usual, waffling.
 
Hi,

Sorry to have gone so way off topic (what has this to do with Al Gore?)...and very sorry to have ruined the post for you....but i do like to discuss things and throw things into the mix...I just hope that I never offend...

topic, schmoppic. that's why it is called discussion! if we all stuck to the same topic, and said the same things, there would be no point in talking at all. besides, even outlandish statements can spark a thread that leads to something profound; there is no reason a sidetracked thread cannot be moved if it doesn't get back onto the main line.

however, like you, I hope I don't offend, either, although I sometimes re-read a previous post and have to wonder...8)
 
I'm arguing causation with someone who thinks 23 cents gave them bad luck. But what the heck, one more point:

Besides, we're not getting warmer at all.

If that's the case, then I guess there's no point in talking about other planets getting warmer.
 
Lord Monckton speaks in St Paul, he show the latest scientific data. If you care about the planet you should check this video out.
 
Will any of it matter? The left seems to want to be douped like this no different then the right claiming we need to kill brown people in the ME. It's their way to be fooled while hating the idiot Neo-Cons who are equally fooled. I think they are both fooled dopes and they both think I'm a nut for telling them they are a compartmentalized fool who is uses their partisan views against their own intelligence and common sense.
 
it hasnt got warmer for about 8-10 years. the ocean levels are not not rising. sometimes they swell in areas. yes the climate is changing. i would be more afraid if it didnt. climate is chaotic. it cannot be predicted with computer models. i suggest we quit believing those with an agenda and look at what nature has done in the past and realize warming and cooling are normal. levels of CO2 and other gasses get higher and lower, etc... these thing are normal.
lets focus on real concerns like deforestation, poverty and hunger.
 
lets focus on real concerns like deforestation, poverty and hunger.


Add to that un-hip old-fashioned toxic chemical factory emissions, endangered species due to civilizational encroachment and hunting/poaching, and devastated worldwide fishing populations

Oh that's right.. Gore doesn't stand to make 100s of millions off of that.. bummer.
 
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