I would like to suggest that the "researchers" mentioned are dismissed because they aggressively used hypnotic regression, often dozens of times for each individual. Since hypnotic regression has been proven (by ACTUAL experts in hypnosis OUTSIDE ufology) to be inappropriate for such research, people are increasingly dismissing research gathered from this extremely faulty tool. I would also like to suggest that the only reason that the latter researchers only report the usual suspects (Greys, Nordics, Reptilians) is because they have admitted to casting out any "bizarre" encounters that do not fit this popular scenario. While I have NO faith in anything Whitley Strieber has ever written or now states, nonetheless I do take seriously his book COMMUNION LETTERS. Of course, he and his wife Anne at the time had to select the letters to include in this book. Nonetheless, instead of the standard stories of lions, tigers and bears, we get giraffes, mongooses, and elephants! Many people report encounters with extremely bizarre creatures that do not fit into the neat and tidy classification systems that literalists in ufology have created (e.g., 89 species and counting).
I think you might have missed a point. Some people are suggesting that previous sexual molestation by humans may have caused the creation of alien abduction as a coping mechanism. Instead of daddy probing a little girl's intimate parts, it is much more preferable to dissociate from this memory and visualize aliens doing the poking. Nonetheless, the researchers you mention report many cases of sexual intercourse with aliens and other humans on the "ships", along with the presentation of hybrids that are the supposed result of human-alien sex intercourse and/or egg/sperm manipulation.
Thanks for your continued strong line on this subject. There is no more disruptive area of Ufology than abductions and it is so often talked about as if there are no real people with real histories at the centre of the discussion, just subjects, or "evidence", or as in the case of David Jacobs, Emma Woods, who does not have to be looked at as a person because the male researcher is the priority. Her evidence and attitude doesn't fit the violent rape fantasy myth being proposed by the good Dr. J. and so like most rape victims,
they go on trial instead of the man. Their history and what they said or didn't say becomes the focus instead of the facts. Jacobs' facts are no different than Woods' facts except he is saying, basically, "She asked for it," and, "She could have left anytime if she wanted." Do people really not see the parallels here with sexual assault court cases?
Woods is talking all about Sexual Assault and that should be the first assessment and not the aliens. As a very wise poster pointed out previously on the now closed thread: "Evidence of child sexual abuse - infinite, Evidence of sexually abusing aliens - none!" We need a little more rational perspective here on this topic and very few in leadership positions are providing it, though I was quite appreciative of those who did:
@Mulvaney ,
@Ron Away ,
@mrs. eccentric ,
@Rizla ,
@ChrisJohnsen and
@beyondthestargate . You made moral judgments that are a necessary part of this discussion. Any so called "evidence collection" by hypnotic dabblers is nothing but an immoral and mostly misogynistic fantasy. That is what needs a response. There are no
sides in this discussion on sexual trauma as has been suggested in newsletters and elsewhere. This lack of moral assessment of alien abduction "research" or fantasy discussion is too often left by the wayside; because, some feel it's more important to talk about the disturbing erotic mythos than the fact that real people are at the centre of it.
I still think that there is something absolutely fascinating about close encounter cases that yield to further disruptions and experiences such as those of Dale Spaur and the Bledsoe claims, but all this phone sex nonsense as an excuse for talk of planetary takeover needs to be sidelined. There is a mystery here and it is highly complex as it is tied to the history of a distressed human psyche. That can not be examined by amateurs, nor should it be used as entertainment fodder or career building aspirations, certainly not as click bait. I can't be party to that anymore.
So thanks
@beyondthestargate for your hard, moral line. We need more of that in this field as a whole. But I definitely need a break from supporting a dialogue that ignores the reality of sexual assault, then revictimizes, and then plays innocent for the sake of polite discussion. Some facts need a priority and until that happens ufology will continue to be an old boys' club that uses female sexual trauma as a pathway to personal ego aggrandizement.
Good luck all and better days to you, especially Harry A. Newton, Tyger, Constance, Boomerang, Randal and Wade, for your positivity and your passions for the field. You enrich this place in ways you don't even know. You made my time here educational and worthwhile.
Peace,
Robert
