Ammo Hoarding Sweeps US

[Schuyler]

CapnG is now on my ignore list. I don't see him contributing in any substantial way to these discussions on any thread. He'd rather call people names than deal with the issues. I simply do not want to waste any more of my time. To those of you who have contributed valuable insights, thank you very much. On to the next topic...

Oh, yeah. Just FYI. Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's Mama, was named Stanley because her father wanted a boy, didn't get one, and named her after himself. She grew up on Mercer Island, about twenty miles from where I did and is/was a few years older. Mercer Island is kind of a ritzy Seattle suburb located in Lake Washington, though the family was not really 'rich' as many residents there are. Paul Allen (Microsoft) also lives on Mercer; Tacoma is a working class burg. Stanley's mother was a bank executive; her father a furniture salesman in downtown Seattle. When Stanley graduated from Mercer Island High School the family moved to Hawaii where she enrolled at the U of Hawaii's anthropology department at age 18. Within a few months she was knocked up by a graduate student, Barack Obama, Sr. Obama's father was not happy about their marriage because he didn't want his bloodline sullied by a white girl. (And you thought only whites were racists.) He left her a couple of years later to get a PhD in economics at Harvard. He saw Barack, Jr. only one other time on a return visit. He liked his Scotch and died in a car accident in Kenya as a result of it. Stanley then married another grad student, a guy named Soetoro, and they moved to Indonesia where he worked for the government and an American oil company. Barack Jr. went to grade school (listed as Muslim, though he couldn't possibly have been in control of it) there, but Stanley sent him back to Hawaii for junior and senior high school, where he was schooled in an exclusive private school. And the rest is history....

 

[skunkape]

CapnG is now on my ignore list.

I ignore no Man that I have not pumped full of hot lead...or silver if he's a werewolf.
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[Schuyler]

As I recall, based on personal memory, the big rush to "hoard" weapons and ammo started at some point during the "Honky" Clinton administration. The whole "Waco Thing" had a lot to do with that.
I will refrain from mentioning names or associations, but I will say...with some confidence, that trying to roll armed Feds over Texas would be ugly.
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That is quite true. To attempt to relate the shortages to a person, Obama, is simply not the case. In fact, it was just after Obama was elected that the ammo shortage, in particular, began to ease. As I showed above, the reasons for the shortage were many, but to someone who knows nothing of the issue, blaming 'hoarding' is an easy thing to claim with no facts to back it up. If you're a person who buys ammo by the 1,000 round case and knows the difference between 9mm and .38, I'll pay attention to you. Otherwise you're blowing smoke.

What raised eyebrows before Obama was even on the radar was an attempt to get a re-ban on so-called 'assault rifles' the same way they were banned for 10 years after the Brady Bill. The funny thing is, there is no such thing, at least in civilian hands. the 'AR' in 'AR-15' does not stand for 'assault rifle' It stands for 'Armalite Model 15' This is a semi-automatic, and THAT means it shoots ONE round at a time, just like a typical bolt-action hunting rifle. The 'semi-auto' feature means the firing of a single round puts another round 'automatically' into the chamber JUST LIKE a six-shooter revolver does. Some people feel (and California in particular) that the number of rounds in a clip is somehow an issue, so California limits a clip to 10 rounds when 30 rounds is more normal. It takes one second to change a clip, so it's hard to see how that really makes a difference. Anyone intent on mayhem would simply have several clips.

I support background checks on purchasers and I support mandatory firearm education. Interestingly, accidental gun deaths in the US have been reduced six-fold in the last hundred years. The number of deaths has decreased by half and the population has tripled.

Another day and 80,000,000 people with legal firearms didn't kill a single soul. But Americans just killed another 115 or so people with their cars today, just like yesterday and every day of the year. When will we stop this 'car'nage?

 

[cottonzway]

I have to say that I have gained a lot of respect for Schuyler. I never knew you had many of the views you shared. I figured you were a very bright guy and all, but had no clue on some of the views. It's wonderful to see someone with actual patriotic ideologies. Good stuff man.

BTW, I wouldn't ignore Cap. I often disagree with him, but he is a good poster IMO. Just my take though.

 

[Schuyler]

I thank you for that, cottonway. I am not blind to my country's failings, but I have to admit that my views have turned dramatically over the last few years. As an anthropology grad (same as Stanley Dunham from a similar school) I received a heavy dose of liberal ideology which I espoused for most of my life. I guess I'm a perfect embodiment of that old quote:

A person who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart. One who is still one at 40 has no head." --variations attributed to Aristide Briand, Disraeli, Bork, Chrurchill, Bertrand Russell, Shaw, Georges Clemenceau, and many others, but probably originated with Francois Guizot in the 19th century.

One of the things I embarked upon was a study of this nation's history. I just returned from Washington, DC and Virginia where I visited Monticello, Montpelier, Mount Vernon, Jamestown, Williamsburg, Manassas, and similar places. My 8th great grandfather's musket is the most popular exhibit at the Virginia State Historical Museum. He bought six of the first slaves at Jamestown in 1619 and was killed by Indians in 1644. I saw the original star spangled banner. I saw the flag that flew over Iwo Jima where one third of all Marines who were killed in WWII died. It was like looking at pieces of the True Cross. (Relax: It's just a metaphor.)

I'm also reading a biography of every President. I just finished one on Andrew Jackson, and I had no idea he was responsible for the things he was. After reading quite a bit about the American Revolution it's obvious to me that the founding of this country was miraculous, a very near thing, victory snatched out of the jaws of sure defeat. Now everybody (not) has a democracy, but back then this was an untried audacious experiment. Washington was a terrible general. We owe this country to French General Rochambeau, who won the Revolutionary War in spite of us. Yet had I lived back then, it's an even bet I'd have been a Loyalist.

But what I have come away with is this: The founding fathers were amazing. You need to read what they actually said to understand how all this happened (with the Masonic overtones.) Then they turned around and made another miracle, the Constitution, written by James Madison. Reading the Federalist Papers, where Hamilton and Madison tried to sell it to the people, was an eye opener. These guys were not only erudite, so were the people reading what they wrote. You couldn't write that stuff today and expect the average citizen to even get what they were talking about. We're a TV genersation. Intellectualism is gone.

To bring this back to the subject, I had always thought and believed that a 'well regulated militia' meant the National Guard. I ran with that for for decades, longer than CapnG has been alive. How wrong I was. When you actually read what they wrote, they didn't mean that at all. They didn't have a concept of 'National Guard.' they meant us, as individuals, responsible for the safety of our country not only from despotic governments at home, but those abroad. they wanted Admiral Yamamoto to say,

"You can't invade America. There is a gun behind every blade of grass."

Our country has lost its way. I surely hope we can get it back.

 

[skunkape]

Don't ask how I stumbled across this clip, but I had to wonder if Cap'n G's opinions were perhaps influenced by this episode of McGuyver.

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[Jose Collado]

Bless the rednecks. Bless their one too many chromosome little hearts.

 

[skunkape]

Bless the rednecks. Bless their one too many chromosome little hearts.

Don't get me started on gingers.
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[thefoundryman]

I ignore no Man that I have not pumped full of hot lead...or silver if he's a werewolf.
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LMFAO!!!
If I come to Texas, Can we go pig hunting? I'm totally frickin' serious!

 

[skunkape]

LMFAO!!!
If I come to Texas, Can we go pig hunting? I'm totally frickin' serious!

I haven't been pig hunting in a few years, since I moved to Austin. Where I grew up, on the coast, they were breeding like rats. I could literally sit on the porch around dusk and pick them off. Some people actually pay pig-exterminators to clear them from their property. I saw a documentary recently called 'Pig Bomb' that looks at the problem of the wild pig population which is increasing in both numbers and size. Pig Bomb: Hogzilla Lives : Video : Discovery Channel Channel
(Did they really have to add subtitles for the southern accent?)
I'm planning on going down there for Thanksgiving. I think I'm going to call my brother and see if he wants to set up a hunt that weekend. He's got a recipe for pig bait that involves a big bucket full of corn fermented in Kool-Aid that draws them up like flies.

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[skunkape]

We fenced in about 10 acres and raised a bunch of wild pigs. They were so abundant that you could actually go out in the woods with a couple of dogs and some rope and catch small ones.

Here's one that was caught as a little piglet and bottle-fed to adult-hood. Her name was P.C. for "pork-chops." She was treated as a pet and sweet as a kitten, as long as you scratched her back on demand. She probably cranked out 50-70 feasts worth of pork in her time.
The other photo is Rojo. He, too, was raised from a caught piglet. He started getting a bad attitude when he got up around 500 lbs. or so and my brother turned him into a wall-mount.
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