Any fans of MMA here?

[pixelsmith]

I watched UFC a couple of times on a English sports TV channel. It is ok to watch i tend get bored watching it though. I more of a boxing fan.
Ireland has had some great sporting moments over the years with or professional boxers winning title fights. So we watch sports that we do well in lol

you get bored watching a Mixed Martial Art match compared to a strictly Boxing match? ...are you sure? Boxing is great but c'mon. MMA has Boxing and every other traditional and non traditional fighting disciplines in it.

 

[dyingsun]

I would rather be a bloodthirsty thug from Rome than a pussy from Canada any day.

Uncalled for and a downright fucked up comment.
Pixel, what the hell...

 

[stonehart]

I have beeen doing Iaido and Kendo for a while now. I have a very nice collection of Katana lol
The forms/kata of Iaido are very calming on the mind.

 

[pixelsmith]

Uncalled for and a downright fucked up comment.
Pixel, what the hell...

That is precisely what I thought about Paul's bloodthirsty thug comment.

 

[dyingsun]

That is precisely what I thought about Paul's bloodthirsty thug comment.

ok, with that in context I get it.

 

[cottonzway]

Those who do not understand grappling get bored with it. It's complex and quite frankly does takes YEARS to really understand. It is worth it though IMO as it is watching physical chess when you understand what you are looking at.

 

[cottonzway]

I figured this would be a good thread to bump. Are there any new members (or old ones that didn't see the thread) that are into MMA? I am still a huge fan of MMA as well as martial arts in general.

 

[cottonzway]

 

[mike]

Wanting to ensure i didnt get attacked and beaten up on the street, i trained in ninjutsu with two schools here in australia.
Im too old for that stuff now, but in hindsight it strikes me that out of a concern that i might get beaten up on the street, i paid a professional to to it do me three times a week .

I dont watch boxing or any of the other fighting "sports", quite frankly they disgust me, Give me an art gallery or symphonic orchestra any day

 

[dyingsun]

I'll just trust in the baseball-bat next to my door.

 

[mike]

I'll just trust in the baseball-bat next to my door.

I have a rather nice Ninjato for such scenarios

But for my first line of home defence

"In dog we trust"

 

[cottonzway]

Wanting to ensure i didnt get attacked and beaten up on the street, i trained in ninjutsu with two schools here in australia.
Im too old for that stuff now, but in hindsight it strikes me that out of a concern that i might get beaten up on the street, i paid a professional to to it do me three times a week .

I dont watch boxing or any of the other fighting "sports", quite frankly they disgust me, Give me an art gallery or symphonic orchestra any day

To each their own, I guess.

 

[cottonzway]

Jiu-Jitsu is "disgusting" though?

I strongly disagree with that. It is a masterful art that takes many years to understand. It is physical chess.

 

[mike]

Jiu-Jitsu is "disgusting" though?

I strongly disagree with that. It is a masterful art that takes many years to understand. It is physical chess.

Yeah i do find any "fighting" for the sake of it disgusting, Even worse i find the crowds enjoyment of such spectacles disturbing.
I have no problems with learning self defence, but when two people inflict pain, injury and sometimes even death on each other for the sake of spectacle, i find myself questioning the species' maturity. To me the particants devolve from sentient intellects to "fighting monkey" status.
But then i dont consider hunting or fishing to be a sport either, dont get me wrong if one needs to hunt or fish to provide for ones family thats fine, but to do so just for the "sport" of it doesnt resonate with me.
I see nothing wrong with learning self defence, or the having of a standing army. But given the choice i will always take creativity over destruction anyday.

Thus if given the choice between watching a "fight" or the london symphonics latest rendition of Gustav Holst's Planets, its the opera house for me everytime

 

[cottonzway]

I think you can enjoy both. You can enjoy the opera house and you can enjoy the fighting. Truth is a lot of professional MMA fighters that reach the UFC level are very intelligent and have college degrees.

No matter how much we try to fight our primal instincts we are highly competitive animal who are prone to violence. Sometimes it is uncontrolled violence and other times it is in a controlled scenario, such as MMA. This is who we are IMO so I don't try to fight it.

The amount of creativity it takes to be an elite professional fighter is off the charts. It takes years of practice, dedication, and discipline. In MMA there are so many variables to the fight that you have to excel in each one or your opponent will take advantage of your weakness. You can be a world-class kickboxer and that means you will get taken down and submitted rather easily. You can be a world-class submission grappler and you will get knocked out standing. It is very difficult to master because you can be at the apex of one aspect of fighting and a total novice at the other end. To become a great MMA fighter it takes getting humbled a lot.

 

[mike]

I think you can enjoy both. You can enjoy the opera house and you can enjoy the fighting. Truth is a lot of professional MMA fighters that reach the UFC level are very intelligent and have college degrees.

No matter how much we try to fight our primal instincts we are highly competitive animal who are prone to violence. Sometimes it is uncontrolled violence and other times it is in a controlled scenario, such as MMA. This is who we are IMO so I don't try to fight it.

The amount of creativity it takes to be an elite professional fighter is off the charts. It takes years of practice, dedication, and discipline. In MMA there are so many variables to the fight that you have to excel in each one or your opponent will take advantage of your weakness. You can be a world-class kickboxer and that means you will get taken down and submitted rather easily. You can be a world-class submission grappler and you will get knocked out standing. It is very difficult to master because you can be at the apex of one aspect of fighting and a total novice at the other end. To become a great MMA fighter it takes getting humbled a lot.

Personally, and its just my honest opinion, its not worth much, but if its not my honest opinion its worth nothing at all, i dont equate practice, dedication, and discipline with creativity.
To me practice=repitition, dedication=repitition, and discipline=repitition.
Indeed most martial arts follow this mantra , watch a karate class, and its the same move done over and over in sets of ten, then the next kata is repeated 10 times, then the next and so on.
Repeating the same kata over and over ,class after class is not creativity in my book, and indeed the response to a street fight scenario is to use those kata's, even the choice of which kata to apply is based on a set formula.

For me our "primal instincts" serves us well in the infancy of our species, but today one is usually required to curb them in favour of the law, and civilised covenants we all live under.
My "primal instinct" when someone blocks the supermarket isle with their trolley, is to give them an ear full and shove them out of the way, but this is unacceptable behavior.
Outside the ring, the behavior we see is assault pure and simple, thus imo what happens in the ring is a throwback to less civilised behaviour. The very fact that you can only legally do this inside the ring demonstrates that as a whole we as a society are moving beyond this behaviour.
Thats not to say that if i ruled the world i would ban this sort of thing, its something humanity has to grow out of in its own time on an individual by individual basis.
But imo part of becomeing a civilised technological society is to outgrow the primative behaviours.

 

[pixelsmith]

Personally, and its just my honest opinion, its not worth much, but if its not my honest opinion its worth nothing at all, i dont equate practice, dedication, and discipline with creativity.
To me practice=repitition, dedication=repitition, and discipline=repitition.
Indeed most martial arts follow this mantra , watch a karate class, and its the same move done over and over in sets of ten, then the next kata is repeated 10 times, then the next and so on.
Repeating the same kata over and over ,class after class is not creativity in my book....

i suppose the london symphony plays one piece and nails it the first time with no practice, dedication or discipline.

 

[mike]

i suppose the london symphony plays one piece and nails it the first time with no practice, dedication or discipline.

Thats true, the majority of the creativity is in the composers score, not the performance itself.

 

[pixelsmith]

Thats true, the majority of the creativity is in the composers score, not the performance itself.

i call bullshit on that statement and i call bullshit on you saying martial arts are not creative. how can an art form NOT be creative?

 

[mike]

Its all relative i guess, to me Art is a creative process, i dont see two strangers inflicting pain, sometimes injury and occasionally death on each other for no other reason than to provide a spectacle creative.
I get the role competition plays in self defence training, but things like boxing where the objective is to belt your opponent into unconciousness leaves me cold.
I find it primitive, and the blood lust it stirs in those who watch, is a reaction i dont share

But here you go......

knock yourself out