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Gene Steinberg said:
The sockpuppet was created as someone to support EW after we revoked her forum privileges for reasons I don't feel the need to repeat here. EW is not her real name; it's a pseudonym.
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I know it is and that's what I was referring to. For example, the very famous sexual assault case featuring a woman known as Jane Doe was named as such to protect her identity. I wouldn't dare speak for E.W. but think it's worth noting why someone would use a pseudonym. At the same time it should be noted why arguing from such a position online is really counterproductive and will go nowhere, as it did. However, it is still another issue regarding the silencing of women who speak out against men they have identified as abusive or who have used their power inappropriately, and that has also been a curious pattern in the history of UFO abduction research.
 
Burnt State said:
Just an observation, but in keeping with the tradition of forum participants asking the hard questions, it looks like all the hard ones have been asked. I hope we hear many of them. This guest obviously generates a lot of controversy because of his work on abductions & the general uproar AP has historically produced because of: issues surrounding implanted memories, a lack of qualifications, the selling and sharing of hypnosis tapes and other concerns regarding supposed unprofessional relations between a client and hypnotist. There is a broad based question regarding the nature of integrity of those who use hypnosis to advance personal theories that hangs in the air like rotting fruit.

The surreal notion of the alien takeover that is advocated by Jacobs & some researchers in the AP field needs to be settled because it really is on the same level as a Greer Ambassador, a Meier Prophet, a Romanek Contactee or Project Serpo. Abductions are one thing but actual hybrids among us is a debate that needs quick and sensible settling. I know the other issues are also contentious and deserving of a full court press by the hosts but they have all the questions they need to examine and pin down the issues to properly separate the signal from the noise. I would not be surprised if even more hard ball questions are to follow.

Re: E.W. the sock puppet. There may be many good reasons why a woman might want to protect her identity in certain situations and it speaks to why some debates really have no place unfolding in the grist mill of the internet and should be explored in court if real crimes were committed.
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Once again, thank you for being so eloquent in intelligently articulating the serious issues at hand with regards to this particular guest. Your patience and reserve are qualities I wish I possessed in greater quantity.


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Not to belabor the point, Gene, but you can see how in certain types of events involving power dynamics that things like gender, race, age, sexuality, ability etc. do matter a lot and those who are on the short end of those sticks may not always feel comfortable in revealing their identity. In her case, and the website she created, we know that it's even more complex than that, but AP has those power imbalances with mostly male hypnotists and their female subjects. I hope that gets explored as it is tricky territory indeed.

Enough said and on with the show.
 
Surely if so called aliens have plans to dominate and control and if they have been here for some time, why would they choose a time as now when we are more enlightened and more advanced. Would they not have been better infiltrating a major religious organisation maybe 3 or 4 centuries ago when education was not at the forefront of the masses. Therefore taking control would have been far more simple.
 
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Who says that didn't happen already? But it's a damn good question.
 
If you have conquered your slaves why allow them to gain their freedom. Which you could say is an education. The more educated and scientific the populous become the more questions they will have and the less control the religion will have.

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celt11 said:
Surely if so called aliens have plans to dominate and control and if they have been here for some time, why would they choose a time as now when we are more enlightened and more advanced. Would they not have been better infiltrating a major religious organisation maybe 3 or 4 centuries ago when education was not at the forefront of the masses. Therefore taking control would have been far more simple.
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We are more 'enlightened?'
 
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The earth is no longer flat and the sun no longer rotates around the earth

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That's setting the bar rather low when discussing "enlightenment." Haha!

I look at the state of the US right now with the right wing's war on science and embracing of dark age mythologies contained in a book of fairy tales called the bible and I hardly see a civilization that is more enlightened. In fact, organized religion of the Judeo-Christian type is the bane of enlightenment. It exists as a means of control over the masses and reinforces a dumbing down of society. If aliens were controlling the planet, they'd certainly be doing it through organized religion, in conjunction with the international financial system, of course!


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Religion and politics have always gone hand in hand as I have seen plenty in northern Ireland. But that is not to say religion is a bad thing or government. It is they who use it for deceitful means. People who have so much invested into an ideology will attack as it is all they know and have invested in. If I know the truth why would I care what other people believe in. Enlightened people do not have faith they ask questions and look for tangible proof.

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ChrisJohnsen said:
That's setting the bar rather low when discussing "enlightenment." Haha!

I look at the state of the US right now with the right wing's war on science and embracing of dark age mythologies contained in a book of fairy tales called the bible and I hardly see a civilization that is more enlightened. In fact, organized religion of the Judeo-Christian type is the bane of enlightenment. It exists as a means of control over the masses and reinforces a dumbing down of society. If aliens were controlling the planet, they'd certainly be doing it through organized religion, in conjunction with the international financial system, of course!


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If you believe such things, we are experiencing the Kali Yuga, The Iron Age. This is a time of war and strife. There are varying thoughts as how long this will all last but we seem to be knee deep in this current cycle.
 
I would ask questions relating to the use of hypnosis as a tool to "recover" lost memories or experiences, since I do not find it to be any more credible when involving abduction than I do when it was used to feed the satanic ritual abuse hysteria.

So I would ask about studies such as that cited by Jacques Vallee (in "Messengers of Deception") where hypnosis reproduced the kind of experience that Barney and Betty Hill described. Seven out of eight participants described almost identical abduction encounters under hypnosis. The people in the study had been carefully selected to screen those who had any interest or knowledge about the subject. But there seems to be a narrative that can be induced under hypnosis that is far different than collecting information.

And thinking about Vallee I would ask him to comment on this quote from Jacques: ""I've taken some witnesses who wanted to be hypnotized, taken them to specialists in two cases out of maybe 70 cases of abductions that I've studied. And usually the specialists tell me that hypnosis is not necessarily the best way of helping these people. Nor is it the best way to recover memories. It may help in very specific cases. But I've never hypnotized anybody--I'm not qualified to do it."

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But I have more interest in what people like Clueless Wonder have to say than Jacobs, so I can't imagine listening to an interview.
 
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Gene Steinberg said:
For me, whether or not EW is male or female is irrelevant. It was never a factor.
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What you felt is irrelevant. The whole point is that being female was relevant for her.

I don't think it's a bad idea to have Jacobs on the Paracast. For one thing, the forums document the history of the debate over Emma Woods. I think Gene is biased, but it's public record and you can read and decide for yourself on that matter. For another, like Art Bell says, give the guest plenty of rope. For another, the Paracast puts up depth interviews with probing questions on paranormal matters for free access. Let's get Jacobs on the record, and then history can assess the history professor. Even if Gene is skittish about the Emma Woods issue, I still am in the cheering section for having him and Chris do the best they can with this guy. Clueless Wonder's book should be out by next year and then we can all really have some fresh air.

My questions:

In terms of testing emergent hypotheses, Jacobs seems to go with the "bad aliens" conclusion. Given that there's also a large literature suggesting aliens are good (e.g., have good intentions toward humanity), did he ever try to test his own interpretation against competing reported experiences to see if his approach was mistaken?

There's a huge amount of research in genetics, hypnosis and recovered memory that is directly relevant to the quote unquote research Jacobs claims to be reporting on. There are easy tests for whether or not his ideas are valid and there are known problems with his research methods. Why should the informed reader care about anything he has to say? Does he address any of those methodological issues? Who actually is his intended audience?

Given that encounters with the phenomenon, whatever it is, can be extremely distressing - and given that people suffering from mental illness can also have distressing, life-threatening experiences independently of experiencing the phenomenon - how was Jacobs trained to identify people who might actually be in crisis and what protocol did he have in place, if any, for referring them to help?
 
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Does your work in this field shown any sort of a patterns of car incidents which makes that result in so called abduction and have you any clues suggest where these so called UFO are coming from and has any relation to human technology rather than ET in your findings. Furthermore, what your thoughts on why have there been such a high number of police , military, seen UFOs over military installations in western and none western states around the World during the 1950s through to 1980s what's is there agenda from your point of view?
 
It's funny how you have to be 18 in most cases to do anything significant in society. Join the military, vote. 17 to drive (here in N.J. anyways), 21 to drink. The general reason is that your mind is more mature and can make a better decision then say, a 9 year old. But yet, there is no minimum age on religion. You can tell a child pretty much anything and they'll believe it (Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, etc.). You can teach a child (from birth pretty much) that it is normal to defecate in the middle of the room. They wont know any better. My point being; IMO we shouldn't shove a particular religion down a child's throat. Let them get of age to where they can look at all available research, options, material, and then let them make the decision. Once a child is 9 and they've already got 9 years under their belt hearing of a particular religion, it's too late. There's a 95% chance that the child (and later adult) are brainwashed to that religion and will now teach it to their child - and the cycle continues.

Let's the child make it to 18 or 21 - that way they can subjectively think about "....so wait, there was a snake that had a tongue/vocal chords that could talk & a magic apple?" or "God can create/make anything he wants while knowing the output but yet purposely created something called Hell and then let's people get condemned to it?"
 
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