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I read a blog recently which i cant find now, but one young person left a reply that went basically like this

Thanks the generation before us, thanks for spending up big knowing we and not you would end up paying the bill.
Thanks for spending beyond your means, using our future as credit
Thanks for the polluted and degraded environment destroyed to fuel your lifestyles
Thanks for running up such huge financial and environmental deficits and leaving us to pay the bill.

Says a lot about how they might see the world they have inherited doesnt it. They are not idiots, they can see they will have to pay for the debt racked up by those who came before them

When i was a lad you could look forward to a career, in some cases you could get a job, say at a factory or bank and work there your whole working life. It was secure, you could buy a house with confidence that you would have the income to pay it off.
Today my nephews climb all over each other to secure a job stocking shelves at the local supermarket, and then are put on a contract basis not full time employment.

When a young person looks to his/her future and see's nothing of substance.............

When i was a lad the future was a bright place, full of promise and good fortune
For many of todays youth the future is a bleak place, with little or no hope of getting a leg up in the world.

How can they not resent the societys that have left them to carry the can, both fiscally and environmentally ?

And still we kick that can down the road.........................
 
I read a blog recently which i cant find now, but one young person left a reply that went basically like this

Thanks the generation before us, thanks for spending up big knowing we and not you would end up paying the bill.
Thanks for spending beyond your means, using our future as credit
Thanks for the polluted and degraded environment destroyed to fuel your lifestyles
Thanks for running up such huge financial and environmental deficits and leaving us to pay the bill.

Says a lot about how they might see the world they have inherited doesnt it. They are not idiots, they can see they will have to pay for the debt racked up by those who came before them

When i was a lad you could look forward to a career, in some cases you could get a job, say at a factory or bank and work there your whole working life. It was secure, you could buy a house with confidence that you would have the income to pay it off.
Today my nephews climb all over each other to secure a job stocking shelves at the local supermarket, and then are put on a contract basis not full time employment.

When a young person looks to his/her future and see's nothing of substance.............

When i was a lad the future was a bright place, full of promise and good fortune
For many of todays youth the future is a bleak place, with little or no hope of getting a leg up in the world.

How can they not resent the societys that have left them to carry the can, both fiscally and environmentally ?

And still we kick that can down the road.........................


I know so many out there that feel just this way....
 
As I watch my two boys, ages six and eight, grow so rapidly while possessing that wonderful innocence and unconcern about the future, I am increasingly filled with a sense of deep frustration and anger at the unwillingness of our political leaders to do the right thing by them and the millions of other children. We as a nation are truly squandering their rightful inheritance by allowing our leaders -- both national and state -- to avoid acting on a simple truth: we are living beyond our means as a society and laying the debt upon our children. It is as if parents engage in a binge of free-wheeling extravagance and then pass the cost of such activities to their sons and daughters. There are simply many desirable programs and policies that cannot be afforded. Much like a household may wish to have new cars, private college for the kids, first class vacations, top notch assisted living for the folks, a new finished basement and all the rest of such things, to get them by incurring huge debts is foolish.. For a government to provide desired programs for the present generation through deficit spending is dangerous fiscal policy and fundamentally immoral. As Thomas Jefferson wrote: "The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." In a very real sense our national debt is child abuse at an colossal scale.

Recitation of the gigantic magnitude of the annual national deficits and cumulative debt can easily bring forth incredulity and a sense of hopelessness. Realization of the specific consequences for our children makes the scandal more meaningful.

The American National Debt
 
But back on topic, If the two accused are the ones who planted the bombs, it looks like Jihad pure and simple

US authorities are investigating if the Boston Marathon bombing suspect killed in a shootout was responsible for a YouTube playlist that included a video of controversial Australian Muslim cleric Sheik Feiz Mohammed.
A YouTube page with the user name TamerlanTsarnaev features religious videos, including one of the Sydney-born sheik titled, And They Say, It's Only Sunnah.
Sheik Feiz founded the Global Islamic Centre in Liverpool in 2000 and gained notoriety worldwide for his teachings, including blaming women for being rape victims.

This cleric is an A grade arsehole, and if the bombers have been listening to him, its not hard to conclude Jihad in this case


AUSTRALIA'S most senior Islamic leader labelled Western Sydney preacher Sheik Feiz Mohammed dangerous, insisting the firebrand cleric be banned from delivering sermons to young Muslims.
Sheik Taj El-Din al-Hilaly told The Sunday Telegraph Sheik Feiz, who recently began teaching in Sydney again after years in self-imposed exile overseas, "prefers for Muslims to be marginalised" in society.
"If religion had something like the Australian Medical Association, or a trade authority, they would never allow him to be preaching -- they wouldn't give him a licence," Sheik al-Hilaly, the Imam of Australia's largest mosque at Lakemba, said.
His comments came after The Sunday Telegraph revealed last week Sheik Feiz had quietly returned to Australia in the past few months and resumed preaching, four years after Kevin Rudd declared the Sydney-born cleric was "not welcome" for making inflammatory remarks, including likening Jewish people to pigs.

Sheik Feiz Mohammed denounced | thetelegraph.com.au

Other notable comments from the sheik include his belief that jihad is the "peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point" of Islam and the Kaffir - or non-Muslim - is "the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt".
 
The platform is there for these 'disengaged youths' to become extremists.That is still the main issue of concern.
The way i see it,it was an act of terrorism.

Certainly the intent is to inspire terror in the masses as seen in this case: a major city brought to a standstill, a massive manhunt with helicopters buzzing overhead, door to door police searches with an armed, desperate fugitive and everyone ordered to stay indoors. It is a terror zone. I was thinking terrorism in our familiar incarnation of religious extremism. Whether the platform is religion or infamy, it seems to be contagious.

In the end it is of course a good thing the suspects got caught but the lessons learned in this case cannot be of much comfort to those who fear a big brother state

Perhaps the big brother state has been an ongoing process. From the age of snitching on our friends for McCarthy to total informational control and ongoing recorded observation by satellite etc., the reasons for why the individual should have less freedom have only been growing. Power demands it. Technolgy insists upon it. It's a wonder that we still get to have sex and babies without any social control.
 
Well they have the second one surrounded right now, i'd prefer they take him alive so we can find out why they did this.

But i predict he will martyr himself first
 
But back on topic, If the two accused are the ones who planted the bombs, it looks like Jihad pure and simple

This cleric is an A grade arsehole, and if the bombers have been listening to him, its not hard to conclude Jihad in this case

I don't think Jihad is accurate. Jihad is just a symptom of something more in keeping with the hopelessness that you were talking about previously that youth feel. If Jihad is shooting up schools and movie theatres,
then sure, Jihad is accurate. These kids have very litte connection to these distant voices, and only find them after something else breaks inside first. I think we need to worry about prevention and making these young guys feel like they are connected to something more meaningful and valuable. If they had real personal hope they would not be listening to the bullshit voices of hate, death and self-destruction.
 
Well they have the second one surrounded right now, i'd prefer they take him alive so we can find out why they did this.

But i predict he will martyr himself first
Just like the martyr that shoots themselves after he finishes firing bullets into innocent crowds.
 
I don't think Jihad is accurate. Jihad is just a symptom of something more in keeping with the hopelessness that you were talking about previously that youth feel. If Jihad is shooting up schools and movie theatres,
then sure, Jihad is accurate. These kids have very litte connection to these distant voices, and only find them after something else breaks inside first. I think we need to worry about prevention and making these young guys feel like they are connected to something more meaningful and valuable. If they had real personal hope they would not be listening to the bullshit voices of hate, death and self-destruction.

If he's been listening to Sheik Feiz Mohammed as his youtube accounts suggests, then its most likely jihad,

Other notable comments from the sheik include his belief that jihad is the "peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point" of Islam

Sheik Feiz Mohammed is bad news, even the local muslim leaders want him banned from preaching to youth

AUSTRALIA'S most senior Islamic leader labelled Western Sydney preacher Sheik Feiz Mohammed dangerous, insisting the firebrand cleric be banned from delivering sermons to young Muslims.
 
Certainly the intent is to inspire terror in the masses as seen in this case: a major city brought to a standstill, a massive manhunt with helicopters buzzing overhead, door to door police searches with an armed, desperate fugitive and everyone ordered to stay indoors. It is a terror zone. I was thinking terrorism in our familiar incarnation of religious extremism. Whether the platform is religion or infamy, it seems to be contagious.



Perhaps the big brother state has been an ongoing process. From the age of snitching on our friends for McCarthy to total informational control and ongoing recorded observation by satellite etc., the reasons for why the individual should have less freedom have only been growing. Power demands it. Technolgy insists upon it. It's a wonder that we still get to have sex and babies without any social control.

Brave New World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aldous Huxley:1931. Nothing really new under the sun here... Just a rediscovery by a new generation. This is a must read.

Ultimately, reproduction is taken over by machines.. As well as social integration.
 
Update: they have him

Now pump him full of sodium pentothal and find out if any others are involved. As far as motive is concerned i'm satisfied its Jihad, that is he's executed his muslim duty to destroy infidels.

What a crazy species we are, fighting over what to call an imaginary sky fairy
 
Update: they have him

Now pump him full of sodium pentothal and find out if any others are involved. As far as motive is concerned i'm satisfied its Jihad, that is he's executed his muslim duty to destroy infidels.

What a crazy species we are, fighting over what to call an imaginary sky fairy

If that's the case, I want to hear about the brainwashing technique applied to #2 to make him act like that. We're talking about twisted and very sick stuff.
 
If they have been taking inspiration from this guy and others like him

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Then look no further for sick and twisted brainwashing


We were delighted to learn that he had gone to Saudi Arabia to study the Islamic scholars for four years but he came home and is keeping the hate alive. It's been reported that he is currently completing his Doctorate in Islamic Law in Malaysia.
Yesterday, a spokesman at the Bukhari House Islamic Bookshop said that Sheik Feiz was known to attend the centre "infrequently."
So the Muslim community are aware of his presence yet still allow him to preach his powerful message of hatred to lonely young men desperate to find a reason to feel valued.

anna maria: Hate Sheik Feiz Mohammed
 
I tip my hat to US law enforcement, that was really quick.
I know the whole surveillance society is a contentious issue, but in this case its clearly been the difference between these animals getting off scot free to do it again a month later, and bagging their sorry arses in record time.
 
it is not over. there is more to this story.

Why did the two brothers flee so? Why run if your innocent?

The brothers likely committed this act because of what is happening in Muslim countries. What they did was wrong. Nobody in that crowd deserved to die, to be left wounded for the rest of their life's. They were innocent.

It would take a certain level of intelligence and know how to put these two bombs together. I'm not sure they acted alone personally?

I guess pixel what your referring to is the picture of the two men dressed in black who looked like military? Both had black back packs? And they were looking at the very place the bomb went off. Yes, i admit it is odd they were there!

Hopefully 1 OR 2 pictures will be released of the two brothers planting those bombs. I'm fairly certain they have those pictures, least them standing near where the bombs exploded.
 
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