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SLR, I was hoping you would stop by..
Skeptics such as Robert T. Carroll, Claus Larsen, and others have questioned the methodology of the Global Consciousness Project, particularly how the data are selected and interpreted,<sup id="cite_ref-schiavo_2-0" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup> saying the data anomalies reported by the project are the result of "pattern matching" and selection bias which ultimately fail to support a belief in psi or global consciousness.[5

I think that's there job.

I would really like some skeptics to participate!!
We are not scientists so we are screwed stepping out the gate.. but perhaps we will illuminate our own thoughts.

Tyler,
Some things i take affect my dream state, SSRI's tend to do this... or anything that might act upon serotonin. I try to run a clean system these days, but the caffeine is a certain addiction. I find meditation and the brainwaves cd's I have very helpful, I know where you can get them from a woowoo place for reasonable $$. If your interested send me a mail.
 
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The Global Consciousness project is a very nice step in the right direction. Other current tests in this vein include Rupert Sheldrake's Telephone Telepathy Experiment:

The Telephone Telepathy Experiment

Other online experiments can be viewed here:

Online Experiments - Portal to Online Experiments - index

Also worth looking up the work of Dean Radin, and Edgar Mitchell's Noetic Institute.

As for Lucid Dreaming, it's worth reading up on Remote Viewing, Astral Travel and Sleep Paralysis.... all of which seem to be tied closely to one another. The key in getting started with lucid dreaming (being asleep, but in control of your own actions within the dream) is that you should during the day constantly do reality checks so that it becomes a habit. Some of these include:

Flipping a light switch on, then off, and then on again. In a dream it usually doesn't work when you flip it on the second time.
Looking at an electronic clock more than once -- the numbers don't usually stay the same.
Pushing a wall with your hand -- in a dream it often goes through when you consciously do it.
Holding your nose, closing your mouth, and blowing up your cheeks with air.

There are others. If you do these during your waking hours, you may get into such a habit that you then do the same actions within your dreams. And that may allow you to awaken within the dream. Most people, when this happens for the first time, wake up immediately. There are techniques to keeping yourself within the dream (like rubbing your hands together), but it can be difficult.

But awareness of this, a commitment and intent, are the first steps towards lucid dreaming.
 
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The Global Consciousness project is a very nice step in the right direction. Other current tests in this vein include Rupert Sheldrake's Telephone Telepathy Experiment:

The Telephone Telepathy Experiment

I find Telephone telepathy works with specific people.. When I was a kid my dad was taking physics courses in college ... and had a good relationship with his professor Bob.. So Bob would often come over, or call and chat with my dad or whatnot. Bob was a really interesting character, as a child i found him repulsive as he could have kept up with his hygiene better.. he never washed his hair! But it was very very weird this connection i had with the man.. i would think.. oh we haven't seen Bob in awhile, i wonder if he will show up today.. And a few hours later he pops up. Or I would hear the phone ring, and go.. that's Bob.. and it would be Bob. I never told my parents about this bizarre connection, I pretty much kept it to myself. But it spooked me quite a bit.
 
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I've never heard of dream telepathy before. Got a how to do in 10 easy steps or something? What's the experiment? I'm dubious as the desirability of such a thing if it does exist. The prospect of me influencing someone's dream is kinda scary. The other way around doesn't seem all that more appealing either.
 
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I've never heard of dream telepathy before. Got a how to do in 10 easy steps or something? What's the experiment? I'm dubious as the desirability of such a thing if it does exist. The proposition of me influencing someone's dream is kinda scary. The other way around doesn't seem all that more appealing either.

I did purchase the book and am awaiting it in the mail, and I also got a lucid dream CD with brainwaves, to help me get connected with lucid dream skills. I'll listen to it tonight.:shy:

I do use brainwave therapy to help me focus while working, for example if I have to do code or try to learn something way above my pay grade... I've also use them to help calm down a hyper fight or flight response that I have. I find them really helpful, so we will see about the lucid dream CD. I'm excited..

But you do make a valid point.. controlling someones dreams.. that would be scary.... but what if some people could actually do it, and it was verified here on the forum... wouldn't you want to be a part of that??

Probably setting up rules IF experiments go that far is very wise.. This is, of course, a ginormous IF. Perhaps putting cart before horse.
 
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I've heard of 'shared dreams,' but far as I know influencing someone else's dreams is very much in the realm of science fiction. Influencing your own dreams is doable, whether anything beyond that is.... I wouldn't know. Baby steps.

Guide to Lucid Dreaming: How to Lucid Dream - wikiHow
 
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I am definantly up for this. I've never done anything like this before, so it should prove interesting to say the least.
I can't see a consensus yet on how to approach this, other than lucid dreaming.
What about trying remote viewing?
 
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I am definantly up for this. I've never done anything like this before, so it should prove interesting to say the least.
I can't see a consensus yet on how to approach this, other than lucid dreaming.
What about trying remote viewing?

It is going to require research on our part. I did get a book it's in the mail and I did get a lucid dream cd with subliminal messages..

There are other experiments that might require looking into... and perhaps a survey or something. I can't look into this till tomorrow in the PM.. It seems there are many who have opinions on this sort of things, but not many here who have done it.. at least no one is stepping up to the plate! Personally I love this sort of thing so i'm motivated.

Remote viewing is interesting, but I have no idea how to proceed... babysteps..
This is going to be very organic, which is fun, because you have no idea where it is going.

If someone wants to take charge of learning/research about remote viewing, and guiding us.. please do.. i'm very curious..
 
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If you really want to do this, set a defined goal first. I would be in for it, just to see what it would do (not a whole lot, spoiler). Define something specific a few days ahead, I'm in.
 
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I think a defined goal right now at attempts at lucid dreaming might be the simplest baby step ever??
Mind manipulation takes training, so the experiment should probably run ... I would say up to 6 weeks.
But first understanding how to go about training our minds for lucid dreaming is important.

I did listen to my lucid dream cd and didn't really get anything.
However, I do feel refreshed this morning, which isn't my normal state.

I think cutting caffeine out of the afternoon evening diet is essential.

It is now official, our first experiment is achieving lucid dream states.
 
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I also think we need to have a rule or two....
Purpose: Expanding the mind, mental capabilities & explore different conscious and subconscious states, without destabilizing a personality.

1) Do No Evil
2) No drugs
If this is something your into on your own time, i really don't care, i'm not making any judgments, drugs are a personal choice that should be considered very carefully, and sometimes people can't handle it so refer back to rule number 1.
3) No ouija boards, magic or anything that can invite tricksters :P.


If for whatever reason, someone starts to destabilize they have to stop the experiments and find their equilibrium.


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It takes concentration and focus to get control of your dreams... you have to make a concerted effort to do this, so don't kid yourself, it's very active.

Something with biofeedback can help bring awareness and focus. What do you have in mind??

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Lucid Dreaming Frequently Asked Questions Answered by The Lucidity Institute
 
Consciousness Experiements

I also think we need to have a rule or two....
Purpose: Expanding the mind, mental capabilities & explore different conscious and subconscious states, without destabilizing a personality.

1) Do No Evil
2) No drugs
If this is something your into on your own time, i really don't care, i'm not making any judgments, drugs are a personal choice that should be considered very carefully, and sometimes people can't handle it so refer back to rule number 1.
3) No ouija boards, magic or anything that can invite tricksters :P.


If for whatever reason, someone starts to destabilize they have to stop the experiments and find their equilibrium.

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It takes concentration and focus to get control of your dreams... you have to make a concerted effort to do this, so don't kid yourself, it's very active.

Something with biofeedback can help bring awareness and focus. What do you have in mind??

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Lucid Dreaming Frequently Asked Questions Answered by The Lucidity Institute



Do no evil? Does that include pulling the bedsheets over your wifes head and farting? Lol!
The only drugs I do are caffeine and nicotine, and those in small amounts. Don't even drink.
So lucid dreaming it is I guess.
Who's putting together a list of objectives? Or maybe a "how to" guide? Or is this something we need to research on our own?
 
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Do no evil? Does that include pulling the bedsheets over your wifes head and farting?

And she hasn't divorced you yet??? You must have something about you to keep her around.:rolleyes:

So I purchased a book.. it's in the mail..
I also purchased a subliminal message lucid dreaming MP3 a couple of nights ago and have been listening to it..
This afternoon as I took a nap I had some pretty surprising results.... I remember my dream practically from start to finish, I remember in in a very lucid fashion, it was pretty exciting as there was karate, guns and sex involved.. I know crazy, (I have no idea how the guns got in there), the karate, I haven't been to my dojo for 3 months and am feeling VERY bad about it.. Sex, I watched a "romance flick" last night with hubby that had quite a bit of sex in it.. My husband liked the flick, but I'm romantically retarded... seriously. :(

I'm not trying to sell MP3's or anything, but i do have a thing about purchasing products and copyright infringement and all that.. as an artist it is important to me.. but it's like 9 dollars or something, so it isn't crazy to get for the fun of awesome dreaming... If your interested in this mail me.. if you can't afford it we may be able to *nudge nudge wink wink* work something out.. I expect in the next couple of days I'll start lucid dreaming. So I'm pretty excited.

Or if you find a lucid dreaming cd somewhere that's fine.. we might want to do this via email as I don't want to seem like I'm trying to sell products on the forum. :(

In the meantime do your home work and read this...

My experiment has already started.. I think keeping a diary by your bed is very important, when you wake up you will want to write your dream down. It apparently let's your brain know that your paying attention.

I think the most important step is to train your mind to pay attention to your dream state. The easiest way to do this is with the subliminal CD's. The more disciplined way to do this is by reading the link and following the directions, keep a dream diary ... read the link

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]3.2.3 Dreamsigns[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Another dream-recall related exercise introduced in EWLD and further developed in A Course in Lucid Dreaming is identifying "dreamsigns." This term, coined by LaBerge, refers to elements of dreams that indicate that you are dreaming. (Examples: miraculous flight, purple cats, malfunctioning devices, and meeting deceased people.) By studying your dreams you can become familiar with your own personal dreamsigns and set your mind to recognize them and become lucid in future dreams. The Course also provides exercises for noticing dreamsigns while you are awake, so that the skill carries over into your dreams. This exercise also applies to lucid dream induction devices, which give sensory cues--special, artificially-produced dreamsigns--while you are dreaming. To succeed at recognizing these cues in dreams, you need to practice looking for them and recognizing them while you are awake. [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]3.2.4 Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams (MILD) [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]The MILD technique employs prospective memory, remembering to do something (notice you're dreaming) in the future. Dr. LaBerge developed this technique for his doctoral dissertation and used it to achieve lucid dreaming at will. The proper time to practice MILD is after awakening from a dream, before returning to sleep. (Modified from EWLD, p. 78) [/FONT]

  1. [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Setup dream recall.
    Set your mind to awaken from dreams and recall them. When you awaken from a dream, recall it as completely as you can.
    [/FONT]
  2. [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Focus your intent.
    While returning to sleep, concentrate single-mindedly on your intention to remember to recognize that you're dreaming. Tell yourself: "Next time I'm dreaming, I will remember I'm dreaming," repeatedly, like a mantra. Put real meaning into the words and focus on this idea alone. If you find yourself thinking about anything else, let it go and bring your mind back to your intention.
    [/FONT]
  3. [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]See yourself becoming lucid.
    As you continue to focus on your intention to remember when you're dreaming, imagine that you are back in the dream from which you just awakened (or another one you have had recently if you didn't remember a dream on awakening). Imagine that this time you recognize that you are dreaming. Look for a dreamsign--something in the dream that demonstrates plainly that it is a dream. When you see it say to yourself: "I'm dreaming!" and continue your fantasy. Imagine yourself carrying out your plans for your next lucid dream. For example, if you want to fly in your lucid dream, imagine yourself flying after you come to the point in your fantasy when you become lucid.
    [/FONT]
  4. [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Repeat until your intention is set.
    Repeat steps 2 and 3 until either you fall asleep or are sure that your intention is set. If, while falling asleep, you find yourself thinking of anything else, repeat the procedure so that the last thing in your mind before falling asleep is your intention to remember to recognize the next time you are dreaming. [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]3.2.5 Napping[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Two observations led LaBerge in the late 1970s to develop morning napping as a method of lucid dream induction. First, he noticed that lucidity seemed to come easier in afternoon naps. The second suggestion same from several lucid dreamers who noted that certain activities during the night appeared to induce lucid dreaming. The diverse qualities of these interruptions: sex, vomiting, and pure meditation, piqued LaBerge's curiosity regarding what feature each might possess conducive to lucidity. The answer proved to be quite simple: wakefulness interjected during sleep increases the likelihood of lucidity. In fact, the nap technique, refined through several NightLight experiments, is an extremely powerful method of stimulating lucid dreams. The technique requires you to awaken one hour earlier than usual, stay awake for 30 to 60 minutes, then go back to sleep. One study showed a 15 to 20 times increased likelihood of lucid dreaming for those practicing the nap technique over no technique. During the wakeful period, read about lucid dreaming, practice reality checks and then do MILD as you are falling asleep. The Lucidity Institute's training programs include this technique as an essential part of the schedule, one of the reasons why most participants have lucid dreams during the session. [/FONT]
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3.3 HOW QUICKLY CAN I LEARN LUCID DREAMING?[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]The speed with which you develop the skill of lucid dreaming depends on many individual factors. How well do you recall dreams? How much time can you give to practicing mental exercises? Do you use a lucid dream induction device? Do you practice diligently? Do you have a well developed critical thinking faculty? And so on. [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Case histories may provide a more tangible picture of the process of learning lucid dreaming. Dr. LaBerge increased his frequency of lucid dreaming from about one per month to up to four a night (at which point he could have lucid dreams at will) over the course of three years. He was studying lucid dreaming for his doctoral dissertation and therefore needed to learn to have them on demand as quickly as possible. On the other hand, he had to invent techniques for improving lucid dreaming skills. Thus, people starting now, although they may not be as strongly motivated as LaBerge or have the same quantity of time to devote to it, have the advantage of the tested techniques, training programs, and electronic biofeedback aids that have been created in the two decades since LaBerge began his studies. [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]Lynne Levitan, staff writer for the Lucidity Institute, describes her experiences with learning lucid dreaming as follows: [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]"I first heard of lucid dreaming in April of 1982, when I took a course from Dr. LaBerge at Stanford University. I had had the experience many years before and was very interested to learn to do it again, as well as to get involved in the research. First I had to develop my dream recall, because at the time I only remembered two or three dreams per week. In a couple of months I was recalling 3 to 4 or more per night, and in July (about three months after starting) I had my first lucid dream since adolescence. I worked at it on and off for the next four years (not sleeping much as a student) and reached the level of 3 to 4 lucid dreams per week. Along the way, I tested several prototypes of the DreamLight lucid dream induction device and they clearly helped me to become more proficient at realizing when I was dreaming. During the first two years that we were developing the DreamLight, I had lucid dreams on half of the nights I used one of these devices, compared to once a week or less without. In considering how long it took me to get really good at lucid dreaming, note that I did not have the benefit of the thoroughly studied and explained techniques now available either, because the research had not yet been done nor the material written. Therefore, people now should be able to accomplish the same learning in far less time given, of course, sufficient motivation." [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]
3.4 WHAT TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST LUCID DREAMING TRAINING?[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica]The Lucidity Institute offers electronic devices that help people have lucid dreams. They were developed through laboratory research at Stanford University by LaBerge, Levitan, and others. The basic principle behind these devices is as follows: the primary task confronting someone who wishes to have a lucid dream is to remember that intention while in a dream. One of the best ways to increase a person's chances of having a lucid dream is to give a reminder to the person during REM sleep. In the lab, we found that flashing light cues worked well in that they tended to incorporate into ongoing dreams without causing awakening. You may have noticed that occasional bits of sensory information are filtered into your dreams in disguised form, like a clock radio as supermarket music or a chain saw as the sound of a thunderstorm. This is the same principle used by our lucid dream induction devices: the lights or sounds from the device filter into the user's dreams. In cases of very deep sleepers, we found that it was sometimes necessary to use sound as well as light to get the cues into dreams. The dreamer's task is to notice the flashing lights in the dream and remember that they are cues to become lucid. Because we could not possibly accommodate everyone who wants to come into the sleep lab for a lucid dream induction session and most people would rather sleep at home anyway, we worked for several years to develop a comfortable, portable device that would detect REM sleep and deliver a cue tailored to the individual user's needs. [/FONT]
 
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Really? Dan Brown? He wrote the DaVinci Code! To me, that's like someone not knowing about Star Wars :)

In all honesty, he is not good writer in the literal sense. He does spin a good tale though.

You might also be interested in Dr. Edgar Mitchell (former Apollo 14 astronaut), he founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences way back in 1973. I pop in and vet through their research from time to time, they do some pretty pioneering work.
 
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Ultimately I think people might be interested in OBE's and or remote viewing.

I think there is a Paracast episode on remote viewing.

Training mind might be a must here, learning to focus. Perhaps a daily ritual of meditation should be included.
Baby steps, 10 minuet meditations to start.

There are practices that are suppose to open your "3rd eye". Like kundalini yoga. I've occasionally do Kundalini yoga and i find when we do exorcises to work on our head chakras.. and, no, i have no idea what there called, i don't really study that sort of thing.. the top of my head can get warm as well as the center of the forehead, and i feel very "out of it".. so that might be interesting to work on as well.

babysteps!

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homework
listen mindfuly

It's kinda long but interesting... he does go into some questions that regard issues that might arise during meditation. Please heed these questions. And he will give us some techniques.
Thanks Hotkafka and Angelo for steering me to this site. It is very extensive.

hk
 
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I find Telephone telepathy works with specific people.. When I was a kid my dad was taking physics courses in college ... and had a good relationship with his professor Bob.. So Bob would often come over, or call and chat with my dad or whatnot. Bob was a really interesting character, as a child i found him repulsive as he could have kept up with his hygiene better.. he never washed his hair! But it was very very weird this connection i had with the man.. i would think.. oh we haven't seen Bob in awhile, i wonder if he will show up today.. And a few hours later he pops up. Or I would hear the phone ring, and go.. that's Bob.. and it would be Bob. I never told my parents about this bizarre connection, I pretty much kept it to myself. But it spooked me quite a bit.
Here’s a story that may interest you. When I was going to high school there were two sisters who were marathon runners, and identical twins. I mean they were exact copies of one another, and it was really difficult to tell them apart. Their father was a surgeon, and the sisters went on to become nurses. (The reason I included the background on their family is to lend credibility to the story). I knew one of the sisters very well, and she would share stories about her, and her twin with me. There were a number of instances when she thought of the other sister, and the phone would ring, with the other sister on the phone. She told me that on numerous occasions that she would think of calling her twin sister, go to the phone, pick it up to dial, and her twin would already be on the line without the phone ringing.
 
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Here’s a story that may interest you. When I was going to high school there were two sisters who were marathon runners, and identical twins. I mean they were exact copies of one another, and it was really difficult to tell them apart. Their father was a surgeon, and the sisters went on to become nurses. (The reason I included the background on their family is to lend credibility to the story). I knew one of the sisters very well, and she would share stories about her, and her twin with me. There were a number of instances when she thought of the other sister, and the phone would ring, with the other sister on the phone. She told me that on numerous occasions that she would think of calling her twin sister, go to the phone, pick it up to dial, and her twin would already be on the line without the phone ringing.

Creepy.

Is anyone doing this experiment besides myself?? Is everyone too busy, because I do understand time constraints.
hk
 
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Perhaps your on your own for the time being. There may be some other people who are experiencers that would like to join you. It seems that they have a natural gift, and it comes easier. It appears that there are some forum members who are experiencers. Maybe they would like to join in. If you can, dream of flying, its really fun.
 
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Perhaps your on your own for the time being.
I think so, and that's fine.

So far I'm having great fun with my dreams, I am remembering them upon waking quite vividly.
Deepak Chopra was in my dream last night..???. I think he was in there because I took note of his presence in the Noetic Sciences library. He had a dinner party and I was part of the "help". Apparently he was very nice, but very particular about appearances. Strange little dream. And then there was another with guns (??) and shooting.

It's hard for me to write the dreams down. I usually wake up to the most horrendous mewing of my cat. And if I don't feed her the house will be filled with the loud horrible mewing.

So, it looks like the hardest part to this lucid dreaming is waking up in your dream, and that's where I'm getting stuck. Will have to figure out a way to become lucid.
 
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