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Angel of Ioren said:
Lol - chemtrails! Is there nothing that a good conspiracy can't explain!?
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But even if one were not convinced that there was anything to the chemtrial conspiracy, by most indications we are talking about an environmentally driven disease (?) Probably heavy metals that made their way into the food chain. Mining should be under suspicion, particulate matter from constant air traffic should be another

@chris, has their ever been any reports showing that cattle with advanced cases of misfolded proteins also had elevated levels of any chemicals and or metals including those that are associated with the chemtrail conspiracy (barium)?
 
Pixel, do you really believe jets are aerial "crop dusters" of a sorts delivering ...something...not good for the planet or people?
You honestly believe this to be a reality?
NOT making fun of you, I am just honestly curious.
 
RenaissanceLady said:
I'm also concerned how similar diseases have started affecting wild game herds. I'll eat game meat whenever possible, mostly because I find it to be less tainted from steroids and antibiotics than regular beef....
So, what are we supposed to do? While the bulk of my diet comes from fresh fruits, beans and greens, I also know we have canine teeth for a reason. Meat is naturally part of our diet. Even if we become vegetarians, we may well be eating GMO crops that hurt the environment, damage the soil and potentially cause other health problems. Trying to eat organic usually involves spending an entire paycheck - and doesn't necessarily mean we're truly eating organic foods.

These are scary times. As you said, we may all have been infected.
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The safety of meat and all our food sources is THE question of our times. We tried to eat organically, hormone and steroid free and we found we were spending as much on food as we were on our mortgage. We are already living in the age of Soylent Green, where only the ultra rich can afford to eat real, natural food.

The incubation period, lack of control over what our livestock eats and compromises of our medical blood supply leaves us very vulnerable to these wasting, diseases. I find that buying food, especially meat, directly from the farmer helps ease my fears. Most animals do show signs of disease and do not enter our food supply, but lobbying for more stringent controls is a must.

As for the chem trails, well I'll believe that when the mad cows come home and fly.
 
exo_doc said:
Pixel, do you really believe jets are aerial "crop dusters" of a sorts delivering ...something...not good for the planet or people?
You honestly believe this to be a reality?
NOT making fun of you, I am just honestly curious.
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In short yes. It is no secret. Aerosol experiments on citizens has been going on for years and it is perfectly legal. Geoengineering experiments is also legal and is what some call chemtrails. When combined with HARRP technology it can be used to manipulate weather patterns. Look it up, here is a wiki link to the history of human experimentation. Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Chemtrails" are legal as per Public Law 105-85. The law was published and by being published you were informed, if you did not complain you have given your implied consent by your own acquiescence. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. The written laws regarding this are extremely deceptive.
 
Oh, it's so much fun when you don't do any research and just repeat what Alex Jones tells you.

Chemtrail Myths - Contrail Science » Contrail Science

Myth #5 – Public Law 105-85 gives the military permission to experiment with chemical and biological weapons on humans, without their consent
False – 105-85, Sec. 1078, actually prevents experiments except for peaceful purposes, and those can only be performed if informed consent is obtained from each test subject. It’s basically the same procedure as for human drug trials.

More info on how silly the notion of chemtrails is:

Chemtrails: Real or Not?
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Oh, it's so much fun when you don't do any research and just repeat what Alex Jones tells you.

Chemtrail Myths - Contrail Science » Contrail Science

Myth #5 – Public Law 105-85 gives the military permission to experiment with chemical and biological weapons on humans, without their consent
False – 105-85, Sec. 1078, actually prevents experiments except for peaceful purposes, and those can only be performed if informed consent is obtained from each test subject. It’s basically the same procedure as for human drug trials.

More info on how silly the notion of chemtrails is:

Chemtrails: Real or Not?
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I guess you missed the implied consent via ignorance of the law part.
 

SEC. 1078. RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF HUMAN SUBJECTS FOR TESTING OF CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL AGENTS.

(a) PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES.—The Secretary of Defense may notconduct (directly or by contract)

(1) any test or experiment involving the use of a chemical agent orbiological agent on a civilian population; or
(2) any other testing of a chemical agent or biological agent on human subjects.

(b) EXCEPTIONS.—Subject to subsections (c), (d), and (e), the prohibition in subsection (a) does not apply to a test or experiment carried out for any of the following purposes:

(1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity.
(2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents.
(3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control.


So section (a) prohibits these cruel and inhumane chemical and biological tests on humans.

Then section (b) says that the prohibitions in section (a) do not apply to tests carried out for virtually any purpose. So section (b) completely negates the prohibitions of section (a).



(e) BIOLOGICAL AGENT DEFINED.—In this section, the term
‘‘biological agent’’ means any micro-organism (including bacteria,
viruses, fungi, rickettsiac, or protozoa), pathogen, or infectious substance,
and any naturally occurring, bioengineered, or synthesized
component of any such micro-organism, pathogen, or infectious substance,
whatever its origin or method of production, that is capable
of causing—
(1) death, disease, or other biological malfunction in a
human, an animal, a plant, or another living organism;
(2) deterioration of food, water, equipment, supplies, or
materials of any kind; or
(3) deleterious alteration of the environment.
 
Even tho the government has had to admit to a recent history of chemical testing on humans and has admitted to geoengineering, Angelo does not believe it. wtf more do you need?
 
Angelo maybe you should go to their conference and learn about it. In the past they have discussed steering and altering the intensity of hurricanes.

The Weather Modification Association (WMA) was organized in 1950 to cultivate a better understanding of weather modification techniques, impacts, and expectations among program sponsors, program operators, and the scientific community, and to promote ethical professional conduct and a free exchange of information.
Weather modification can be both planned, as is the case in cloud seeding (cloud modification), or inadvertent, for example, when pollution affects visibility.
Planned (deliberate) weather modification (geoengineering/chemtrails) is also commonly known cloud seeding, cloud modification, and atmospheric water management.
The WMA fields a wide variety of inquiries, from domestic and foreign governmental agencies, to the student doing a report for the classroom.
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Well, this is interesting...from Wikipedia;.............Pixel may be onto something here.........
Operation LAC

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A C-119 Flying Boxcar, the type of plane used to release the chemicals
Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage), was a U.S. Army Chemical Corps operation which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide (ZnCdS) particles over much of the United States. The purpose was to determine the dispersion and geographic range of biological or chemical agents.
Anecdotal evidence[1] exists of ZnCdS having adverse health effects as a result of LAC. However, a U.S. government study, done by the U.S. National Research Council stated, in part, "After an exhaustive, independent review requested by Congress, we have found no evidence that exposure to zinc cadmium sulfide at these levels could cause people to become sick."[5] Still, the use of ZnCdS remains controversial and one critic accused the Army of "literally using the country as an experimental laboratory".[6]
 
Like I keep saying, it is no secret. Chemical testing on citizens AND troops has been going on for years. It is all tied back to UN Agenda 21 which is also no secret.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Wow - it's pretty interesting how all truthers believe in chemtrails too. I guess when you want to believe in a conspiracy so much, anything will do, regardless of how ridiculous.
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so you deny weather modification/chemtrail/cloud seeding/geoengineering exists? the terms are interchangeable but skeptics prefer "chemtrail" because it sounds nutty.
This guy breaks it down and ties a lot together pretty well.

again... for Angelo.. it is no secret.
 
so... Angelo, AGAIN... do you deny weather modification/chemtrail/cloud seeding/geoengineering exists?
 
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