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What do you guys think of all this, I really do not know

Update: More Info and Footage from O'Hare Airport-UFO Casebook Files

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Update: More Info and Footage from O'Hare Airport-UFO Casebook Files
 
The recent interview brings out a number of interesting facts... The witness states that he was some distance from the airport, filming at 4x digital zoom, and was facing Concourse C.
He states that he was approximately 100 feet from the UFO, which was about 750 feet altitude. He claims that the view he got was because he was standing on a wall, with his camera held at arm's length, held above his head.
He witnessed the UFO for about 2 minutes, but because of the limitations of his Samsung SGH-D900 3 Megapixel phone, he was only able to get 60 seconds of footage.
He saw a number of other people nearby with cell phones, excitedly taking film of the UFO. One of the witnesses had a camcorder.
Since he came forward with his film, he has been contacted by at least two other witnesses with photographic evidence of the incident, and posted their film on youtube.
He states that weather conditions at the time were overcast skies, with some breaks in the clouds, and that is why his film appears as it does.
In describing the craft itself, he describes it as gigantic, hazy, dark, metallic, silent, cigar-saucer shaped, and frozen still.
When asked if he talk to NARCAP's Sam Maranto, who investigated the case, he is reluctant to get involved with skeptics, and does not care what other people think, he states that his film is genuine, and to hell with the naysayers.
Now, even a third video has been released. The film is a presentation of a still frame photo of the UFO supposedly taken from the cockpit of a plane. This is what the pilot says:
 
Not a fucking chance.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to good to be true.

No way dude.


edit -if that videos real then why did they edit out information that would make it seem more believable? The fact that its a clean edit at the start and the end of the video and you dont see the camera moving around and framing the shot, and you dont see anything at the end.

Plus it was apparently higher than that from what I remember.

But mostly its just ridiculous.


edit 2 - "cigar saucer shaped"? What the fuck does that even mean?
 
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The following interview was conducted, at his request, through messages sent through youtube. His answers are unedited. We have asked for a copy of the original video to be given to the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) for analysis.

OHAREUFOWITNESS: Here's the exclusive interview as promised. Sorry i've only just got round to answering your questions but i've been swamped with messages from all over the world, including t.v, radio, newspapers, mags, websites, etc. I decided to give Roger the exclusive, simply because he was the first to ask, and because I'm sick of big media companies thinking they should get it first, just because they have lots of green coloured pieces of paper!!!, other people are just as important.

EXAMINER: Where were you filming from?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I was at some distance from the airport, and remember I was filming at 4xdigital zoom, but I was facing Concourse C as far as I can remember.EXAMINER: Details as far as height and distance away from being directly under it.
OHAREUFOWITNESS: O, I was roughly 100 meters away from the saucer, UFO looked to be be at a height of 750 feet from the ground. The reason I got the incredible angle I got, was because I was stood on a wall with my camera held at arm's length, held high above my head and I was filming at full zoom of 4x.
EXAMINER: How long did you observe it? Is this all the footage you have?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I just turned around Roger and it was there, I observed it for 2 minutes. I only got 1 miute of film because my cell phone memory was full.
EXAMINER: How many people were with you , around looking at it?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I was alone but I could see about 7 other people in the distance all with cell phones going bonkers, shouting, so others must have footage and pics. One guy had what looked like a camcorder???
EXAMINER: Do you know of any one else with footage or photos?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: The other people I know with footage and photos, contacted me through youtube after I came forward, I have met these 2 witnesses and posted their evidence, all I can say is that they seemed like credible men. I've had other people contact me, and I have arranged meetings to view their evidence, if it's credible and they check out, and they let me post the footage, I will.
EXAMINER: Which direction were you facing?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I was facing Concourse C.
EXAMINER: What was weather condition like?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: Weather was overcast, cloudy, but with some breaks in the clouds, where blue sky could be seen, thats why the clip looks like it does.
EXAMINER: How light was it at that time?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: sky could be seen, thats why the clip looks like it does.
EXAMINER: What model phone camera was it that you used?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: The phone was a Samsung SGH-D900 3 Megapixel camera phone.
EXAMINER: Did you zoom in on it?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: Filming all the time at 4x digital zoom.
EXAMINER: Describe the characteristic of the object as far as color, shape, motion, sound, anything.
OHAREUFOWITNESS: UFO looked gigantic, hazy, dark, metallic, silent, cigar/saucer shaped, frozen still. Then it shot off upwards after 2 minutes at what I would estimate to be 30-40,000 mph.
EXAMINER: Did you run into more people since then that claim to have seen it, have photos, or video footage?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: Only people I have run into with o'hare UFO claims are through youtube since I came forward.
EXAMINER: Would you talk to Sam Maranto who investigated this case with NARCAP?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I refuse to get involved with skeptics/debunkers/researchers/believers. People can think what the hell they like, no way am I throwing myself to the dogs, so they can all attack my credibility, I've had enough of this on youtube since I came forward. It is what it is, think what they want, but trust me, my footage is genuine, and shows a real UFO. Lots of people are now trying to debunk the other 2 pieces of evidence, but they cant get an exact match on the clouds on the extraterrestrial tourists clip, which proves it's real, and I cant wait for the sorry ass excuses regarding captain Smiths 35mm photo.
EXAMINER: Can a better copy be sent to him for evaluation?
OHAREUFOWITNESS: I will consider sending a better copy of my clip, this will be to you Roger, I will let you know soon, probably will actually to have it looked at by experts to shut the debunkers up.
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OHAREUFOWITNESS: One woman contacted me who says she saw a green reptilian man with glowing red eyes on that day, she says he evaporated before her very eyes at the airport.
One man says he saw a beautiful blue woman dressed in a black cat suit, complete with weapons belt and a laser gun in one of the airport toilets on that day, he said she was holding a long silver tube with 3 red lights on it, she pushed one and vanished, he claims he sufferd physical effects after this.
A man says he is a doctor and that he was boarding an aircraft, and he witnessed a dark saucer pop in and out of the clouds for a few brief seconds on that day.
Anyway roger, I have no way of proving these claims, I have told them to come forward.
Have to go, take care Roger, I will be in touch soon with the original clip for analysis.
Cheers.
END OF INTERVIEW
On March 27, 2009, Ohareufowitness posted a second video from another source. Here is both the video and what his unedited description.
"Since I posted my video clip, I have been contacted through You Tube by many, many people. One guy sent me his telephone number and over a detailed conversation he told me that he had also witnessed and filmed a UFO at the airport on the same day, and on Wednesday 25th I met up with him, he seemed like a credible and honest man, and I have no reason to doubt his claims.

"He told me that he has never come forward because he does not want to be the subject of ridicule, and he does not want to be involved with the media, UFO researchers and UFO fanatics, and who can blame him?, just look at the reaction I have received in less than a week. He told me that on November 7th 2006 he was at Chicago O'hare International Airport when he saw a huge Flying Saucer, he said he grabbed his cell phone and started filming the UFO, he witnessed the Flying Saucer hovering for 1 minute over the airport after which time he said it just simply vanished before his very eyes. He said that after 45 seconds his cell phone suddenly cut off and went dead, which he cant explain as it was fully charged. He said that the UFO was a huge, silent, dark, hazy, saucer-shaped, metallic craft. He thinks that several different UFO'S were witnessed that day as his sighting was at 4.28 p:m, and he believes that the true, full story has still yet to be told.

"He has decided to share his stunning evidence with the world, and here it is, he wishes to remain anonymous, and wants to simply get on with his life without any hassle. The sound from his clip has been removed to protect his identity as he can be clearly heard speaking. Believe what you want, but I believe his footage is genuine and shows an Unidentified Flying Object of unknown origin. Photo copyright 2009 ohareufowitness."
 
What kind of cell phone was he using to capture the video? How come he didn't continue to capture video until it left? Why only 45 seconds?

If I were there, I would have captured video until it left. Which apparently it did in a hurry, going straight up according to eye witnesses.

With that said, one would think that the person in question who captured the video might have more footage on their camera. I can tell you it wasn't captured with a commercial grade consumer camera from Wal-mart. This is obviously a super low res Cell Phone camera.

The real tell for me though, is that the saucer, and the rest of the footage do not have the same level of pixelization. The object to me looks improperly lit, not to mention lacks the depth that the plane in the foreground has.

Then again, I could be wrong. What say you David?
 
What kind of cell phone was he using to capture the video? How come he didn't continue to capture video until it left? Why only 45 seconds?

If I were there, I would have captured video until it left. Which apparently it did in a hurry, going straight up according to eye witnesses.

With that said, one would think that the person in question who captured the video might have more footage on their camera. I can tell you it wasn't captured with a commercial grade consumer camera from Wal-mart. This is obviously a super low res Cell Phone camera.

The real tell for me though, is that the saucer, and the rest of the footage do not have the same level of pixelization. The object to me looks improperly lit, not to mention lacks the depth that the plane in the foreground has.

Then again, I could be wrong. What say you David?

My old phone only recorded video for 1 minute before you had to start a new file.
 
Ok, Im convinced it IS NOT a cell phone camera. Im thinking it is a normal video camera with a blur filter, or some other post process noise added to appear to look like a cell phone cam.

Anyone else see what Im getting at, or am I totally off?
 
That video and still are utterly ridiculous. Even sillier is that transcript, which is practically nonsensical. Total garbage, IMO. "30-40,000 mph"? Yeah, has anyone on this planet seen anything traveling that fast, ever? What did they use for reference? What a frikkin joke. Toss this crap out, it's useless bullshit.

dB
 
That video and still are utterly ridiculous. Even sillier is that transcript, which is practically nonsensical. Total garbage, IMO. "30-40,000 mph"? Yeah, has anyone on this planet seen anything traveling that fast, ever? What did they use for reference? What a frikkin joke. Toss this crap out, it's useless bullshit.

dB

What do you think about my theory that its not even a cell phone camera? Because there is no pixellation it seems dodgy to me.
 
It's created by using a still image that was used to fabricate other fakes, so no, it's not from a cel phone. The shake is artificial - rather obviously so - and the "UFO" is a glob of shit, as far as I'm concerned.

dB
 
It is a crude hoax, both the "video" and the "interview". The guy didn't even try to make it look decent, nor did he even bother to read the eye-witness descriptions (posted at both NUFORC and in much great detail at NARCAP) to get his "story" straight.

It was poor judgement on the part of the blogger Roger Marsh, to publish it, considering also that examiner.com is one of the 2 blogs in GoogleNews (i.e. show up on every Alert for the keyword UFO).
 
ATTN:

Ohare UFO FUCKTARD thinks he made some sort of grand point about the state of UFO research with his video and still.

There is a thread at J&J's site where he admitted it was a hoax. Emailed Jeremy.

The problem is anyone with half a brain called these images ridiculous from the start, so hes not really proving anything or making any point.

what a tool.
 
since last year, when I joined the forums, and the year or so before when I first started listening to the Paracast, my opinions on UFO cases and UFOs themselves, have changed dramatically.

I am much more skeptical of UFO sightings in the news, in the archives, just about anywhere.

I wonder if I am getting to the point where if I actually saw something unexplained, I would ignore it, or look for a very mundane explanation, rather than accept any holy cow, what was that! impression.

I don't know whether to say thanks :) or thanks a lot :mad:, but in either case, I have definitely learned a lot more about the subject than I thought I understood two years ago.
 
I am again soooo disapointed. I just want to know what they are and what I saw. I can't believe no one can get a real fricken picture of this shit. I really don't want to see any thing else.
But, if I did, even after seeing other things, I wonder if I would have the presence of mind to try and take a picture or would I just stand there scared. Again.:confused:
 
If you take and make fraudulent video, of an event, in hopes to pass it off as real, when it's bullshit, you should be sterilized for the good of humanity, thus preventing your stupidity to carry on for further generations.

It's people like this fucking idiot, and all the other reprehensible frauds out there who are making a living off of this shit, that marginalize EVERYONE who is either investigating it, or has a valid interest in it.
 
But in this case it was even worse Tommy, because the event in question was real not bullshit, so this just muddys the waters tremendously.
 
ATTN:
There is a thread at J&J's site where he admitted it was a hoax. Emailed Jeremy.

Excuse me - and I stopped going to the Paratopia site, so I'm not going to go over there and verify this - but the idea that the person behind that fraud emailed Jeremy to admit it is as bogus as the new video itself. So I call bullshit on that, and for some reason, it fails to surprise me.

dB
 
the idea that the person behind that fraud emailed Jeremy to admit it is as bogus as the new video itself. So I call bullshit on that, and for some reason, it fails to surprise me.

Mistaken... it is indeed there and has a link to video proof with the guy actually showing how he did the hoax videos and pic.
 
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