New theory on 9/11 "Controlled Demolition"

[pixelsmith]

Why would Bush and/or "the NeoCons" want to cripple their stock market and (indirectly) lower their own personal weath by launching an attack on NYC?

they need to cripple our economy which will help usher in the North American Union. it isnt about wealth with these people, it is about power.

How were the planes projected in reality if they never actually crashed into the buldings? We have all seen the footage, and it definately shows a large aircraft flying into the towers.

this is ridiculous, yes there were planes hitting the buildings. but possibly not the ones you think.

Where are the passangers of those planes, and the planes themselves if the planes never hit the buildings?

who knows?

Why do independent experts in the field of demolition state that these buildings were not destroyed by explosives (controlled or otherwise) if in fact they were?

why do as many or more independent experts AGREE that is was a controlled demolition?

In order for the government to have got away with this, there would have to be literally hundreds of people that know about it (including the independent demolition experts). How could a conspiracy involving this many individuals not leak out?

compartmentalization and threats of being suicided.

 

[Anubis]

Gareth:

We'll put aside the expert opinions for a minute. I have not heard from the experts that claim it was a controlled explosion, nor have any idea of their credentials. However, even if we take the experts out of the equation, this theory is still proposterous. If anyone can seriously answer the questions in my previous post, I may look at this in a new light. Unfortunately, it makes absolutely no sense to me that a cabal of the richest people in America would conspire to destroy the economy of the country that exists as the very foundation of their wealth.

Pixelsmith:

Regardless of when he saw the first tower collapse or heard about the second one, the fact remains he looked like he had seen a ghost when told by the Secret Service what had happened. I am not sure about you, but based on the last 8 years I don't think that Bush possesses that kind of acting ability. As for lying when he "saw the first tower" collapse, BBC reporter Jane Standley announced 7 WTC had collapsed seven minutes before it did. Now, some people state that she must have known about the controlled demolition and this is further evidence of a conspiracy. However, the idea that foreign media reporters were part of this conspiracy and knew about the attacks before they happened, yet decided not to tell anyone, is just as ludicrous as claims that the moon is made out of green cheese.

 

[Gareth]

Regardless of when he saw the first tower collapse or heard about the second one, the fact remains he looked like he had seen a ghost when told by the Secret Service what had happened.

After being told the news by the Secret Service, Bush immediately thought with a look of pure fear on his face, "Oh shit, it's happening."

From an upcoming book by an anonymous author

 

[Anubis]

they need to cripple our economy which will help usher in the North American Union. it isnt about wealth with these people, it is about power.

They had plenty of wealth and power prior to the attacks, and the same power without as much wealth afterwards. It makes no sense to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs in the hopes of obtaining a goose that lays bigger golden eggs.

As for the "North American Union", it has been 7 years since 9/11. There has not been a Union formed yet (NAFTA has been in place since 1992). I don't think Obama was part of this conspiracy, so where does that part of your theory stand?

this is ridiculous, yes there were planes hitting the buildings. but possibly not the ones you think.

Or they indeed were the ones that were hijacked, which makes a lot more sense. Some of the people on those planes communicated with loved ones via cell phones during the hijackings. How does your theory explain that?

who knows?

My guess is they were destroyed when the plane crashed into the WTC and the tower collapsed to the ground.

why do as many or more independent experts AGREE that is was a controlled demolition?

Where do you get "or more" from? As far as I have seen, there are a lot more that agree the theory is hogwash than don't. However, I cannot back up that claim any more than you can.

compartmentalization and threats of being suicided.

LOL. That worked wonders during Iran/Contra and Watergate. It's funny how slick Willy got nailed for receiving fellatio in the Oval Office, but a conspiracy involving hundreds of individuals can be sealed tighter than a snare drum. No one can keep a conspiracy that big under wraps in this day and age.

 

[Anubis]

After being told the news by the Secret Service, Bush immediately thought with a look of pure fear on his face, "Oh shit, it's happening."

From an upcoming book by an anonymous author

I was thinking more like "I didn't sign up for this!"

 

[Kieran]

Ok if the twin towers were brought down by a explosives after the initial impact by the planes that would suggest a high degree of planning by individuals of unknown origin or backgound.
That also in my mind suggests a degree of foretellling the scenario that would play out on 9/11. I believe and always will believe a terrorist cell from the middle east carried out those attacks.

We saw the planes hitting the towers at a high rate of speed.
People can suggest outlandish claims if they want i saw what i saw.

What i think happened, before i do just make comment,
does anyone really no for sure if the materials used to construct the twin towers were of the best quality to withstand fire, and also people have suggested that because we could only see black smoke towards the end just before the twin towers collapsed in somehow suggests the fire was going out are completely wrong and that shows a lack of knowledge on how fires actually work.

I think the initial plane impact and the aviation fuel igniting with everything inside the top floor caused so much pressure to build up that eventually the concrete flooring of the top first floors just gave way leading to the collapse of the twin towers. To me the collapse started from the top down not down top.

The pentagon is really a strange one for me too
but look at it this way if we didnt see the planes by way of video feed through witness's and the media we wouldnt have known what caused the twin towers to fall down. The planes were completely destroyed on impact.

 

[Anubis]

The pentagon is really a strange one for me too
but look at it this way if we didnt see the planes by way of video feed through witness's and the media we wouldnt have known what caused the twin towers to fall down. The planes were completely destroyed on impact.

I am open to the theory that the planes headed for the Pentagon and the White House could have been shot down. Knowing that planes had already come off their flight paths and hit the Twin Towers, I doubt very much that the U.S. government would stand back and watch the Pentagon and White House get destroyed. I am sure it would be very difficult decision to fire upon U.S. civilians, and I highly doubt the government would ever admit that they did. I have always suspected that the story about Flight 93 being overtaken by passengers was a cover story so people would not expect that the plane was shot down. How exactly did the passengers get the cabin door open to get at the terrorists flying it?

 

[Gil Bavel]

I am open to the theory that the planes headed for the Pentagon and the White House could have been shot down. Knowing that planes had already come off their flight paths and hit the Twin Towers, I doubt very much that the U.S. government would stand back and watch the Pentagon and White House get destroyed. I am sure it would be very difficult decision to fire upon U.S. civilians, and I highly doubt the government would ever admit that they did. I have always suspected that the story about Flight 93 being overtaken by passengers was a cover story so people would not expect that the plane was shot down. How exactly did the passengers get the cabin door open to get at the terrorists flying it?

The government has been so sloppy in retrofitting their story of 9/11 after the fact that it becomes obvious that they were complicit in it.

For instance, they reported that the FAA had been conducting tests after 2002 to make sure that emergency 911 calls could be made from cell phones on planes flying at altitude, because it was impossible to do so beforehand.

When you factor that in with the following call allegedly made from flight 93, it raises more questions that demand answers:

Caller: "Mom? This is Mark Brigham."
Caller: "I want you to know that I love you. I'm on a flight from Newark to San Francisco and there are three guys who have taken over the plane and they say they have a bomb."
Alice: "Who are these guys?
Caller: (after a pause) "You believe me, don't you?
Caller: "Yes, Mark. I believe you. But who are these guys?

Sound natural? Using your last name when talking to your mother?

Here is the statement of an experienced airline pilot: "The idea of being able to use a cellphone while flying is completely impractical. Once through about 10,000 feet, the thing is useless, since you are too high and moving too fast (and thus changing cells too rapidly) for the phone to provide a signal." (AVWeb, 1999).

They were fake! These voices were the result of the technological wonder called voice morphing in which the sound of anybody's voice can be duplicated in real time. If the full range of the subject's voice has been recorded, which usually can happen in a 10 minute phone conversation, and then fed into the computer software, anybody speaking the subject's language can very convincingly sound like the subject person on the phone to his or her family, friends, coworkers, etc. etc.. In practical terms, problems with voice morphing will arise when gaps in the impersonator's knowledge become apparent to his or her interlocutor. Especially considering how short the conversation was, it's obvious that the person that Mark's mom was talking to was not Mark.

All but a few of these "get the story out" calls were made from cell phones. There were two or three made from airfones by stewardesses.

The Scholars for 9/11 Truth and the Scientific Panel Investigating 9/11, among others, have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the 9/11 Commission Report is part of a cover-up of what really happened on 9/11.

Any analysis of the cellphone and "airfone" calls from Flight 93 must begin with some basic, high-altitude cellphone facts. According to AT&T spokesperson Alexa Graf, cell phones are not designed for calls from the high altitudes at which most airliners normally operate. It was, in her opinion, a "fluke" that so many calls reached their destinations. (e.g. impossible.)

According to technicians in the cellphone industry, it was a "miracle" that any of the calls got through from altitude.

Recent proposals to install equipment to make cellphone calls possible from aircraft, have been promoted heavily. Why would it be such a big deal to be able to make cell calls in-flight, when they worked so well on September 11, 2001?

An aircraft, having a metal skin and fuselage, acts like a Faraday cage, tending to block or attenuate electromagnetic radiation. One can make a cellphone call from inside an aircraft while on the ground because the weakened signal is still close enough to the nearest cell site (relay tower) to get picked up. Once above 10,000 feet, however, calls rarely get through, if ever.

 

[rowdy27]

Almost 2800 people died there.. maybe some respect for their souls would be paramount..

 

[pixelsmith]

anubis yes they have wealth and power. the problem for them is WE the People also have wealth. they need to destroy the middle class. and if you read at all you might have noticed there is a financial crisis worldwide.

you dont read to well. no one said bush saw the first tower COLLAPSE. read it again. bush said he saw the first PLANE hit the first tower on a tv just before he walked into the classroom. this is a lie. in fact, he repeated this lie TWICE!

the north american union is well on its way. a little over 10 years ago the European Union was considered a conspiracy theory. you REALLY need to do a little research before you post.

if you researched and picked apart photos of the planes that hit the towers you will find some peculiar things like "pods" and antennas protruding from them.

i dont want to know what happened to the people. if you study the tapes you will find some strange things. such as Mark saying "Hi Mom. This is Mark Bingham," when was the last time you called you mom and said who you were?

i suggest you check out an independent, peer reviewed web site to gain a little bit of education. AE911Truth

 

[pixelsmith]

anubis yes they have wealth and power. the problem for them is WE the People also have wealth. they need to destroy the middle class. and if you read at all you might have noticed there is a financial crisis worldwide.

you dont read to well. no one said bush saw the first tower COLLAPSE. read it again. bush said he saw the first PLANE hit the first tower on a tv just before he walked into the classroom. this is a lie. in fact, he repeated this lie TWICE!

the north american union is well on its way. a little over 10 years ago the European Union was considered a conspiracy theory. you REALLY need to do a little research before you post.

if you researched and picked apart photos of the planes that hit the towers you will find some peculiar things like "pods" and antennas protruding from them.

i dont want to know what happened to the people. if you study the tapes you will find some strange things. such as Mark saying "Hi Mom. This is Mark Bingham," when was the last time you called you mom and said who you were?

i suggest you check out an independent, peer reviewed web site to gain a little bit of education. AE911Truth

 

[Kieran]

anubis yes they have wealth and power. the problem for them is WE the People also have wealth. they need to destroy the middle class. and if you read at all you might have noticed there is a financial crisis worldwide.

you dont read to well. no one said bush saw the first tower COLLAPSE. read it again. bush said he saw the first PLANE hit the first tower on a tv just before he walked into the classroom. this is a lie. in fact, he repeated this lie TWICE!

the north american union is well on its way. a little over 10 years ago the European Union was considered a conspiracy theory. you REALLY need to do a little research before you post.

if you researched and picked apart photos of the planes that hit the towers you will find some peculiar things like "pods" and antennas protruding from them.

i dont want to know what happened to the people. if you study the tapes you will find some strange things. such as Mark saying "Hi Mom. This is Mark Bingham," when was the last time you called you mom and said who you were?

i suggest you check out an independent, peer reviewed web site to gain a little bit of education. AE911Truth

Is that reported by someone who was with george bush or is there actual video footage of George bush saying that on the day?

Since nobody had any footage of the first plane hitting till later i cant see how Bush could have seen such a thing occur unless the intelligence services got footage but he siad the tv so i dont no.

 

[pixelsmith]

Is that reported by someone who was with george bush or is there actual video footage of George bush saying that on the day?

Since nobody had any footage of the first plane hitting till later i cant see how Bush could have seen such a thing occur unless the intelligence services got footage but he siad the tv so i dont no.

if you watched the links, you know now.

 

[Kieran]

What channel was Bush watching the future channel lol was it a simulation of some sort done by the news channel.Look we are talking about George bush!!!
we all no what he is like!! maybe he heard it was a plane that caused it so literally he just siad ya i saw it too, but not understanding there was no footage of such an event occuring till later?

 

[pixelsmith]

he repeated the story twice at 2 different locations and dates.

 

[Kieran]

To be honest him haveing knowledge on such a secret would be the biggest fuck up in history dont you think.1 could you trust him!!! and i think that ends it for me at least that Bush had prior knowledge on the attacks.

 

[pixelsmith]

remember that even after andrew card informed bush of the second impact, by his own admission bush knew we were being attacked, but he continued listening to the reading skills of a classroom full of children. WTF?

 

[skunkape]

Here's the BBC reporting the collapse of building 7 nearly half an hour before it actually fell. You can see it still standing over the reporters shoulder! How in the hell am I supposed to pretend there is not something fishy going on?

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[Kieran]

Yes i agree there may be something to your analyse on this, but still we talking about George bush the man has no logical sense when speaking everything is backwards upside down you no what i am saying if this was Dick cheney, colin powell or some other politician i would definately say fuck me The goverment knew about the attacks, but george siad it!! so you have to have doubts on it being real.

 

[pixelsmith]

#7 was a planned and controlled demolition. no doubt about it. it was rebuilt into a command center/bunker building. heavily reenforced against attacks. basically a building within a building. yet they say an office fire took it down. once you know what was in the building, it all makes sense.

Newly uncovered video from 9/11 featuring an interview with FDNY lieutenant David Rastuccio on MSNBC confirms that there was a plan to deliberately demolish WTC Building 7, as was originally indicated in Larry Silverstein’s infamous statement on the PBS documentary, America Rebuilds.
In the clip, Rastuccio responds to the host’s statement that “You guys knew this was coming all day,” by stating, “We had first reports that the building was unstable and that it was best for it to come down on its own or it would be taken down, I would imagine that it came down on its own.”
Though Rastuccio expresses his opinion that the building had collapsed without the aid of explosives, he admits that a plan had been in place to deliberately demolish the structure.