But first we need to agree on the facts. And you often point to outrageous fringe sites that aren't close to the truth.
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Politics & The CIC/Prez
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Wherever you stand on the issues, Fox News is revealed as a notorious provider of fake news in the testimony from the News Corp. CEO in the ongoing Dominion lawsuit:
Long and short is that its top-rated prime time hosts knew that claims of election fraud in the 2020 election were utterly false, but advanced them anyway to preserve ratings. In other words, they lied. If this behavior is regarded as malice in the defamation lawsuit against Fox, the company could stand to lose up to $1.6 billion plus punitive damages.
Long and short is that its top-rated prime time hosts knew that claims of election fraud in the 2020 election were utterly false, but advanced them anyway to preserve ratings. In other words, they lied. If this behavior is regarded as malice in the defamation lawsuit against Fox, the company could stand to lose up to $1.6 billion plus punitive damages.
Yet another story that reveals more information about Fox News being mainly a propaganda outfit:
www.mediamatters.org
Fox News is Republican propaganda, according to Rupert Murdoch
She had her chances to show, in court, this nonsense, and she lost there too.
As an example:
You would have found the facts in 30 seconds if you cared to. She's just a sore loser, hoping maybe she'll be Trump's Vice Presidential pick.
As an example:
Fact check: False claim that Kari Lake's lawsuit shows Arizona used 'no signature verification'
Kari Lake's lawsuit alleges Maricopa County mishandled the signature verification process in the midterm election. It doesn't claim there was none.
www.usatoday.com
You would have found the facts in 30 seconds if you cared to. She's just a sore loser, hoping maybe she'll be Trump's Vice Presidential pick.
And here's more about the lawsuit against Fox News that reveals that its major commentary hosts knew they were lying to their viewers:
news.yahoo.com
How strong is Dominion's defamation case against Fox News? Legal experts weigh in
Lawyers believe Dominion has a powerful argument against Fox News. Evidence so far, including Rupert Murdoch's deposition, is already giving the conservative network headaches.
And another report about Fox News. Now the L.A. Times puts a lot of stuff behind a paywall, but for one story, you should be able to get to it and read it:
www.latimes.com
Fox News finally reveals its kryptonite: the bottom line
Years of moral outrage from watchdog groups failed to change the network's course. A lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems hits Fox where it really hurts.
www.latimes.com
And when it comes to Trump, how can people support someone who lies so much?
So we have Faux News host Tucker Carlson lying about the January 6, 2021 insurrection in an ongoing series:
And more evidence, from the Dominion $1.6 billion lawsuit against the network, demonstrating Faux News executives and hosts knew they were lying to their viewers about alleged election fraud:
Long and short here is that the evidence reveals that Faux News is nothing more than a propaganda outfit. I feel bad for the people taken in by the nonsense.
There is nothing even remotely comparable across the mainstream media.
And more evidence, from the Dominion $1.6 billion lawsuit against the network, demonstrating Faux News executives and hosts knew they were lying to their viewers about alleged election fraud:
Long and short here is that the evidence reveals that Faux News is nothing more than a propaganda outfit. I feel bad for the people taken in by the nonsense.
There is nothing even remotely comparable across the mainstream media.
Whether you are conservative or liberal or otherwise, how can anyone accept anything broadcast by Faux News?
www.msnbc.com
Opinion | Fox News destroyed its reputation for a painfully simple reason
Two pernicious ideas came together to destroy the reputation and the business model of Fox News.
www.msnbc.com
The question is preposterous. Even though MSNBC is thought of as strictly a liberal outfit, the lineup is more mixed by that.
You have former conservative Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough hosting the main morning show, lasting several hours, and Nicolle Wallace, who served as George W. Bush's White House Communications Director from 2005-2006, hosts an afternoon show. Former Maryland Lt. Governor and RNC Chairman Michael Steele is an MSNBC political analyst and occasional substitute cohost.
Yes, there are liberal anchors too, mostly in the late afternoon and evening. Otherwise, midday coverage is fairly well balanced.
So much for presumptions.
You have former conservative Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough hosting the main morning show, lasting several hours, and Nicolle Wallace, who served as George W. Bush's White House Communications Director from 2005-2006, hosts an afternoon show. Former Maryland Lt. Governor and RNC Chairman Michael Steele is an MSNBC political analyst and occasional substitute cohost.
Yes, there are liberal anchors too, mostly in the late afternoon and evening. Otherwise, midday coverage is fairly well balanced.
So much for presumptions.
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
Without regard to the talking heads on, when no one is watching... how often do they condemn attacks on pregnancy centers? Or the existence of baby abattoirs? How many times have they hailed the civil right to keep and bear arms? How often do they mention Trump's final tweets which said to be peaceful and law abiding on Jan.6? Or that not one of the sightseers reported seeing an insurgency?
Fox isn't what it was, pre-Disney; it generally hovered around 86 or 87 on the political protractor, then, only slightly to the Left; now I call them CNN-2.
Fox isn't what it was, pre-Disney; it generally hovered around 86 or 87 on the political protractor, then, only slightly to the Left; now I call them CNN-2.
You mean attacks on centers that provide abortions? They are often attacked, and demonstrators yell and scream at people who go in those facilities. There is no baby slaughtering, so therefore nothing to mention. That's just a flagrant fiction.
Trump's final words? He still claims that he really won.
And, yes, hundreds of millions of people saw the insurgency on TV, as recorded on thousands of hours of video. With all that coverage, it's easy to cherrypick brief segments to claim something is peaceful when it wasn't peaceful.
Faux News has always been a propaganda outlet for the Republican Party. It was founded by Roger Ailes, once a political operative for Nixon, to serve as a conservative alternative to his false vision of the mainstream media. In recent years, some of its serious journalists, such as Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace, have left. In their place Faux added more commentary pushing its agenda.
All of this is readily confirmed.
To have a sensible discussion here, we have to focus on facts. There are legitimate conservative versus liberal versus libertarian views. But those discussions aren't welcome on Faux News, which has its own fundamentalist agenda.
Trump's final words? He still claims that he really won.
And, yes, hundreds of millions of people saw the insurgency on TV, as recorded on thousands of hours of video. With all that coverage, it's easy to cherrypick brief segments to claim something is peaceful when it wasn't peaceful.
Faux News has always been a propaganda outlet for the Republican Party. It was founded by Roger Ailes, once a political operative for Nixon, to serve as a conservative alternative to his false vision of the mainstream media. In recent years, some of its serious journalists, such as Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace, have left. In their place Faux added more commentary pushing its agenda.
All of this is readily confirmed.
To have a sensible discussion here, we have to focus on facts. There are legitimate conservative versus liberal versus libertarian views. But those discussions aren't welcome on Faux News, which has its own fundamentalist agenda.
And in this report, Faux News CEO Rupert Murdoch admitted in the Dominion lawsuit that the 2020 election was fair and square. They just claimed otherwise to keep their viewers watching, and thus the advertisers advertising.
www.huffpost.com
Fox Chair Murdoch In Filings Says 2020 Election 'Not Stolen'
Fox Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch said under oath that he believes the 2020 presidential election was free, fair and not stolen.
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
Out of every thousand babies that go into an abortion mill, how many survive? I'm sure many aren't sucked and pulled out in pieces, or sold as parts. Just give me a round number of those that leave alive, well, and are amongst us now. Mere yelling doesn't begin to rectify the evil within.
Murdoch's personal opinion impresses me less than the deliberate blocking and destruction of evidence... that would have proved Trump wrong, you say? Innocents don't destroy their proof of innocence. Murdoch wasn't allowed to see it either.
As you know, the footage on TV was carefully edited to show what the DNC wanted shown- even screams added to "sweeten" it. Footage of people being peacefully guided through the building they own, is starting to leak out. The police officer who was supposedly killed, was one of the guides. His death the next day, of unrelated causes, was unfortunate, but certainly not the sightseers' fault. The tiny unarmed woman, murdered by a cop for no reason? Tragic.
You seem to disparage fundamentalism. People like you make Christianizing the world slower and more difficult... so why do you do it?
Murdoch's personal opinion impresses me less than the deliberate blocking and destruction of evidence... that would have proved Trump wrong, you say? Innocents don't destroy their proof of innocence. Murdoch wasn't allowed to see it either.
As you know, the footage on TV was carefully edited to show what the DNC wanted shown- even screams added to "sweeten" it. Footage of people being peacefully guided through the building they own, is starting to leak out. The police officer who was supposedly killed, was one of the guides. His death the next day, of unrelated causes, was unfortunate, but certainly not the sightseers' fault. The tiny unarmed woman, murdered by a cop for no reason? Tragic.
You seem to disparage fundamentalism. People like you make Christianizing the world slower and more difficult... so why do you do it?
Only a tiny fraction of abortions are late-term. The usual standard, before all the political hate erupted, was a maximum of 22 weeks, generally before the fetus is viable. Your claims are outrageous. If the baby survives the procedure, doctors will do what they can do care for it. Period.
There is no evidence of your crazy claims,.
What "blocking and destruction of evidence" are you referring to?
As to the insurrection, the only sweetening was done by Carlson to eliminate the evidence of violence. We have to deal with facts here. Much of the violence was in evidence to people watching the live feeds. As I write this, 999 people have been arrested. Many have pleaded guilty, and all those tried so far were convicted.
I have no problems with religious fundamentalism. Believe what you wish, but don't presume to enforce that belief on people who believe something else. Be nice.
There is no evidence of your crazy claims,.
What "blocking and destruction of evidence" are you referring to?
As to the insurrection, the only sweetening was done by Carlson to eliminate the evidence of violence. We have to deal with facts here. Much of the violence was in evidence to people watching the live feeds. As I write this, 999 people have been arrested. Many have pleaded guilty, and all those tried so far were convicted.
I have no problems with religious fundamentalism. Believe what you wish, but don't presume to enforce that belief on people who believe something else. Be nice.
And speaking of abortion myths:
www.actioncanadashr.org
Common Myths About Abortion | Action Canada for Sexual Health and Rights
While the 1988 Morgentaler decision secured the right to legal abortion in Canada, barriers still exist that can make accessing an abortion difficult.
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
I am not concerned with the age of babies. I am not asking anyone to use a stopwatch to decide if infanticide is okay. It isn't.
Refusing to preserve and make ballots available for recounting and verification happened. Not a myth, and not what innocents would do. All those "3 A.M." votes didn't come from 3 A.M. voters.
Tucker Carlson Releases January 6 Footage That Raises New Questions | The Daily Wire is something you need to see.
We ARE being nice, but not putting up with being blocked from discourse entirely. See Woke school board votes to stop hiring candidates from Arizona Christian University over latter's biblical definition of marriage . How are we supposed to save those that can be saved, Mr. Steinberg? Could you do your job, while systematically being blocked from access?
Refusing to preserve and make ballots available for recounting and verification happened. Not a myth, and not what innocents would do. All those "3 A.M." votes didn't come from 3 A.M. voters.
Tucker Carlson Releases January 6 Footage That Raises New Questions | The Daily Wire is something you need to see.
We ARE being nice, but not putting up with being blocked from discourse entirely. See Woke school board votes to stop hiring candidates from Arizona Christian University over latter's biblical definition of marriage . How are we supposed to save those that can be saved, Mr. Steinberg? Could you do your job, while systematically being blocked from access?
You have a lot wrong there:
1. As I said, your delusions about infanticide are delusions. It isn't happening.
2. Your claims about alleged election fraud were disproven more than two years ago. It's enough already. The real election fraud comes from sore losers like Donald Trump and Kari Lake who want to steal legitimate elections.
3. Carlson is lying. He admits to it on those depositions in the Dominion case, that he has to lie to keep the profits rolling in. He can't raise real issues by showing a few clips of something taken out of context.
4. Woke is a myth.
Maybe we can discuss something real next time?
1. As I said, your delusions about infanticide are delusions. It isn't happening.
2. Your claims about alleged election fraud were disproven more than two years ago. It's enough already. The real election fraud comes from sore losers like Donald Trump and Kari Lake who want to steal legitimate elections.
3. Carlson is lying. He admits to it on those depositions in the Dominion case, that he has to lie to keep the profits rolling in. He can't raise real issues by showing a few clips of something taken out of context.
4. Woke is a myth.
Maybe we can discuss something real next time?