Get the facts straight. He never ever said humans. And Chavez showed up as the craft was still visably leaving. ( At the end of the primary event) Duh.
Your post here is either willful disinformation, completely false, or you, Ben Moss, do NOT know THE FACTS about your statements claiming to know the truth about this matter in the Socorro case.
I lean towards willful disinformation, because you've done it already, imo, with "the need to know" debate. You can't even answer a simple question with a yes or no about it. It shows a clear bias with a clear attempt to distort the truth. Imo.
The real truth is Ray Stanford was not a UFO investigator at 26 years old working for any organization when he went to Socorro. He does say he sent a report to NICAP, but he does not go to Socorro on their direction. He arrived the following Monday morning at the police station three days AFTER the Friday Socorro event to begin to learn what happened, though Ray himself is unclear about the exact timing and date. (He says he takes notes, so maybe that info is available.) He was NOT able to speak with Zamora there, because Hynek was already there interviewing Zamora.
Let's get the FACTS straight:
1) Chavez would NOT cooperate with Ray Stanford the way Ray wanted him too, because Chavez thought this was a Secret Government Project. Chavez probably knew this 26 year old had no credentials to do any official interviews with police anyway. Wink! Chavez said publicly he NEVER saw the Egg including where the Egg had floated up and moved off.
IF it is true, as reported elsewhere, I gave a link to that wiki, that Ray Stanford in 2009 said Chavez saw the object, then I already have Ray Stanford contradicting himself and discrediting his own 'on record' words. Yup, I have PROOF. For some drama I say: Boom! As Zamora said about the loud explosive blast.
Ben Moss: put up or shut up about what Chavez said. You sir, claim to KNOW the facts calling me and others here dunces among many other put down snide remarks, but it is you that apparently needs that dunce cap to use your own words. YOU, Ben Moss fail to know the truth about Chavez, or, more likely, you're just a disinformation agent. Thanks for your worthless disinformation.
Ben Moss: Next up is your absolutely absurd claim that Zamora never said Humans???????????? Get real. What did he say? Humanoids?
You're going down BIG TIME with a CRASH and BURN Ben Moss on this idea too! What are THE FACTS Ben Moss? You've got some Humanoid disinformation for us too?
Guess what Ben Moss: Boom! I've got The Proof how this Humanoid BS [other than human idea] was played as more disinformation by you and whom else??? OMGosh, I wonder who started that Humanoid idea and Humanoid rumor BS. Is it by chance in Ray's Book???? LOL.
Put up or shut up Ben Moss, because I've got the proof to PROVE otherwise!
Are you, Ben Moss, suggesting Zamora said these were not humans? Prove it. Prove it that Hynek put in his report that Zamora said these were not Humans too. Is there even any mention by Hynek about this "humanoid" matter in his report? Prove it. I can tell you now I have PROOF otherwise, so Boom! I think you have some more disinformation egg on your face about these alleged "humanoids".
Btw, Ben Moss is the Chief Field Investigator for MUFON VA, so I really think he needs to clear his disinformation deck about Chavez and the humans. We've been dealt everything but the facts. Let's see if Moss can set the record straight vs the good "smoking gun" information I have waiting for his reply. Of course, I seriously doubt he will reply, because I've exposed THE FACTS already!
