Creepy Green Light
Paranormal Adept
What's scary is the amount of fools that think Meier & his beamships are the real deal.
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Stanton Friedman to Research Billy Meier??
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Jack Nathaniel
Paranormal Novice
True. After this expose, some extreme Meierites/Billyvers are trying to rationalize the findings by saying to themselves that Meier may have accessed the "Akashic Records" of James Allen. 
Mulvaney
Paranormal Maven
True. After this expose, some extreme Meierites/Billyvers are trying to rationalize the findings by saying to themselves that Meier may have accessed the "Akashic Records" of James Allen.
If I were them, I would argue that since Billy travelled back in time, he left traces of his akashic records that Allen picked up on. So really, Allen was copying Billy, however subconscious it may have been done.
It's too hard to use the usual excuses (like the pictures of Asket or the Dino) that the original material has been stolen and falsified by the Men in Black. But I suppose you could think that the Pleiadians are putting out misleading information and made Billy do it.
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Jack Nathaniel
Paranormal Novice
Here is the comment by Michael Horn on his blog:
"MH
February 4, 2016 at 5:17 pm
Certainly people are free to do that. They can also compare the texts to see if what Meier has written has broadened and expanded upon it.
This explanation is from Christian Frehner of FIGU:
“Since the spiritual teaching, i.e. the Teaching of the Prophets, does exist in the universe for milliard/billion of years and has been taught to millions and millions of people on many worlds, especially to the 52 million or so people of the mission here on Earth, whose spirit-forms are of an extraterrestrial origin, it is possible that at least a few of those personalities with a more advanced spirit-form can unconsciously draw impulses from their storage banks, i.e. knowledge stored in that energy block. There are other possibilities, like tapping into the universal storage banks, etc., because all human beings, all life-forms and everything else, down to each atom and below, is connected with each other and is constantly exchanging information on a sub-atomar level.
Regarding an explanation concerning James Allen: Any detailed information by Billy or Ptaah would be no proof for people like Mahesh, etc., because to them this would be an unprovable claim etc. etc. Just as they would not accept the word of Billy (‘I never heard of James Allen before nor did I read his book’) to be true as from a man of honour, they would not accept Ptaah’s explanation.
Well, perhaps Billy will talk with Ptaah. Anyway, we’ll see.”
I think that Billy and FIGU should have definitely provided that information with any of the texts, books, etc., to which it applies. Perhaps something like this would have helped:
“Sourced by Billy Meier from the storage banks and may also contain content expressed by various individuals throughout history with changes, corrections, additions, etc., by Billy Meier.”
Of course this also may not satisfy people, understandably since the entire Meier case itself is actually well outside of our conventional paradigm. And each person must decide for themselves what rings true for them, pertaining to every element of the Meier case, its evidence and information. That is consistent with the core principle of self-responsibility in the spiritual teaching, which certainly has nothing in common with our religions, belief systems, cultic mindsets and their twin sister, i.e. politics."
"MH
February 4, 2016 at 5:17 pm
Certainly people are free to do that. They can also compare the texts to see if what Meier has written has broadened and expanded upon it.
This explanation is from Christian Frehner of FIGU:
“Since the spiritual teaching, i.e. the Teaching of the Prophets, does exist in the universe for milliard/billion of years and has been taught to millions and millions of people on many worlds, especially to the 52 million or so people of the mission here on Earth, whose spirit-forms are of an extraterrestrial origin, it is possible that at least a few of those personalities with a more advanced spirit-form can unconsciously draw impulses from their storage banks, i.e. knowledge stored in that energy block. There are other possibilities, like tapping into the universal storage banks, etc., because all human beings, all life-forms and everything else, down to each atom and below, is connected with each other and is constantly exchanging information on a sub-atomar level.
Regarding an explanation concerning James Allen: Any detailed information by Billy or Ptaah would be no proof for people like Mahesh, etc., because to them this would be an unprovable claim etc. etc. Just as they would not accept the word of Billy (‘I never heard of James Allen before nor did I read his book’) to be true as from a man of honour, they would not accept Ptaah’s explanation.
Well, perhaps Billy will talk with Ptaah. Anyway, we’ll see.”
I think that Billy and FIGU should have definitely provided that information with any of the texts, books, etc., to which it applies. Perhaps something like this would have helped:
“Sourced by Billy Meier from the storage banks and may also contain content expressed by various individuals throughout history with changes, corrections, additions, etc., by Billy Meier.”
Of course this also may not satisfy people, understandably since the entire Meier case itself is actually well outside of our conventional paradigm. And each person must decide for themselves what rings true for them, pertaining to every element of the Meier case, its evidence and information. That is consistent with the core principle of self-responsibility in the spiritual teaching, which certainly has nothing in common with our religions, belief systems, cultic mindsets and their twin sister, i.e. politics."
markleaver1
Paranormal Novice
Stan Friedman is mentioned starting at 34:09
The statement is misleading because Meier's claims have been thoroughly examined. His fake predictions (made after the events occurred mostly) and his fake photos have been exposed. If people want to hear him directly, with a little translation help from Bob Zanotti, we've posted an old interview with Meier that's available for Paracast+ subscribers.
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But as I said, there is no reason whatever to dwell on Meier otherwise. We have bigger fish to fry, like the truth about UFOs.
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But as I said, there is no reason whatever to dwell on Meier otherwise. We have bigger fish to fry, like the truth about UFOs.
Creepy Green Light
Paranormal Adept
2024 and still zero proof of flying saucers and their pilots. The 2017 NY Times article was the catalyst to start this new phase of UFO frauds (Grusch, Elizondo etc.).
So, then, you think none of it is real at all?
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
That we laymen know of, or have seen.
Frauds with a purpose i.e. disinformation agents. Ironically they're indirect confirmation of the phenomena. As the late Timothy Good wrote "..there would be no point in disinformation if there was nothing to cover up."
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
And no proof anyone ELSE has, either.
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
You can't state that categorically. There are good grounds for believing the government knows a great deal more than the public.
What good grounds?
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
Witness testimony about confiscation of physical evidence.
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
I meant there are good grounds to think the government has proof. You can't assume there's no proof just because lay people don't have access.
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Testimony is good enough for ordinary claims... ordinary crime, etc. but is insufficient for claims of extraterrestrials. There is no even halfway decent evidence that the government has evidence to which we have no access. To show me terrestrial paper, ink, and recordings is to waste my time.
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
Evidence for ET is not limited to testimony.
Your opinion. The testimony of several people concerning confiscation of material with extraordinary properties, or associated with an unusual flying thing, is evidence. Not incontrovertible proof, but evidence of a coverup.
Pygar2
Paranormal Maven
No, evidence of vocal chords.
If you have evidence of ETs that isn't testimony, terrestrial paper, ink, and recordings... if you have real, tire-kicking evidence... you'd have brought it forth.
You have *nothing*.
Trajanus
Paranormal Adept
Testimony of credible witnesses carries some weight. I didn't say it was sufficient in itself but part off the body of evidence.
Like I said before, UFOlogy isn't based solely on witness testimony. There are various physical traces (known to the public).